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December 26, 2017, 08:25:41 PM
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Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

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December 26, 2017, 08:47:56 PM
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There are some signals that can make you some money but I personally prefer to just do everything myself. Some people are lucky with their guesses but the success almost always depends of the facts of the company, its not a controlled scam, if anything its the complete opposite with how crazy Cryptos numbers are across the board. Its pretty easy just keep up with the news and regularly read the forum, I day trade and make a good amount of money even when the whole market drops just as its doing right now.
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December 26, 2017, 10:34:47 PM
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Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.

this could be happening for the same reason that paper trading / demo trading doesn't work. when there is no real risk involved, you don't experience the psychological struggles and tough decisions involved with trading for real money. it could also be due to variance. or maybe you badly need to refine your trading system, and you were just getting lucky at first. whatever the cause, it's a good time to take a step back and start learning the basics of technical analysis, fundamental analysis, portfolio and risk management, and all that nitty gritty stuff.

I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

who are you referring to, specifically? a common practice is to post multiple ideas and outcomes on the chart, then retweet/repost the the chart that played out correctly. some "analysts" even go back and delete posts that were wrong, to give the impression that they are "always on spot."

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December 26, 2017, 10:50:44 PM
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They are always saying that they know how to predict the price and bla bla blah, it has always been a big fake.

No one can predict what is going to happen with the price.

A big analyst said that bitcoin was going to be touching $7k by last week, did it happened? of course not.

They are never going to be able to predict the price just by EMA, Bollinger Bands, head and shoulders, and all that crap.


I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?


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December 26, 2017, 11:00:29 PM
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If anybody says to you they actually know what is happening that is a lie. Technical analysis exists in order to give us an estimate of what is going to happen but it isn't an exact science. Furthermore, the more people that use TA the more the prophecy become self-fulfilling. At least this is what I have found in my short while in this industry.

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December 27, 2017, 12:58:09 AM
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Sometimes it is real but we cannot predict the next happening in trading if the price of bitcoin or alts will going to increase or decrease. Even the chart is not permanent at all, it can change also.

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December 27, 2017, 01:46:57 AM
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No one can predict the price in 100% , trading analysis just speculation but speculation with analyis could be 70% true and 30% wrong. But to become expert trader for the better learn about trading by my self so all investment will be own responsibility.
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December 27, 2017, 02:01:30 AM
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Predicting an exact price at a particular point of time is what speculators and they base this on various factors influencing the price of Bitcoin. Of course they cannot be right all the time but most of the times they end up speculating very close to the actual price.

Instead of relying on trade signals from analysts, since you told us you've already played around with small amounts, begin making the calls by yourself. This will not only give you invaluable experience but also a sense of responsibility of your own money.
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December 27, 2017, 02:03:26 AM
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Do some analysis could helps to predict which coin will increase its value but it cant gives you 100% sure prediction. If you want to make sure income just invest in the much well known coin in the crypto currency world even their value increases a little bit but the possibility to make income is very high.
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December 27, 2017, 02:23:44 AM
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One big difference that you are experiencing right now is that you'll get very emotional when you risk big amounts of money. Your judgement gets clouded by irrelevant thoughts and this lets you make poor decision on your trades. The only answer for this problem is for you to get experience in trading cryptocurrency and control your emotions (this is very hard even for veteran traders).

Regarding to analysts giving spot-on guess about the market, I must say that their success came from their vast experience in the market and having it applied to their Technical Analysis. Make no mistake. They do have losses here and there but their study regarding the market gives them more trading wins than the opposite ones. 
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December 27, 2017, 04:44:49 AM
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Elite traders know how to read trading charts and they set their buy/sell points according to market trend rather than their emotions. Newbie traders always follows their emotions and what they think gonna happen, market don't have patterns it will only have trend and you have to find the current trend and go with it.


 
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December 27, 2017, 05:30:30 AM
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If you want to trade, the first thing you neeed to learn is accepting the fact of losing money.
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December 27, 2017, 05:35:49 AM
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Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

There is no pattern in the market, it only goes down and up. If the price of the Coins is RED at the moment, then for sure it will go green in a few days, same with the green Coins, if its GREEN today, most probably it will turn red in a few days. So to be sure, dont buy those coins who are already high in there regular price.

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December 27, 2017, 05:45:29 AM
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Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

It may be partially applied for Bitcoin + 2-3 main alts with a lot of skepticism.
For the rest, especially those with small market cap, it's totally non-applicable because they are too easily being manipulated even with small resources.
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December 27, 2017, 05:56:10 AM
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Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

Speculation sometime are real but of course don't just depend on that make your own analysis about the market before you trade, it is good to read some blogs about it but studying it is way better. If you want to loose your money study further because you really need to know how to read the market.
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December 27, 2017, 06:07:36 AM
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I read analysis and speculations but i am not depending on them, i do what i want to do. I take decision on my behalf. Usually, i hold bitcoin for a long time. You have lost in trading when you sell your coins without profit, so don't need to fully follow the speculations, use our mind and then take the decision in trading. 

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December 27, 2017, 06:46:11 AM
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I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
it depends on what you read but i am nearly sure that they do not control anything! they are beginners like yourself who are writing some thoughts on some blog and share it with others. and most of those that i have seen are full of shit.
of course sometimes what they say comes true!

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How can they be so sure?
it is good to check the timestamps you would be surprised to learn how many of them write something after the rises happen! for example some altcoin gets pumped then they write something saying it will pump and use a old price as if they have written the article before the pump!

Weak hands have been complaining about missing out ever since bitcoin was $1 and never buy the dip.
Whales are those who keep buying the dip.
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December 27, 2017, 07:05:55 AM
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Hello, I'm new here.
I just started trading bitcoin last month. Playing with some change was easy but when I decided that I'm ready to go big, I began to lose.
I started reading analyst blogs and their guess is always on spot. It is like they can control the market some how.
How can they be so sure? I tried looking back for the same pattern they were talking about but the result afterwards is different. What's really going on here?

Speculation sometime are real but of course don't just depend on that make your own analysis about the market before you trade, it is good to read some blogs about it but studying it is way better. If you want to loose your money study further because you really need to know how to read the market.

everyone can do the speculation about bitcoin but we all know that this is may not enough and also the possibility of it are not sure so having some knowledge also you may read a lot of about the coin that you are trading having knowledge about the market being updated may help you a lot than speculating.
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December 27, 2017, 07:26:54 AM
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Sometimes it is real but we cannot predict the next happening in trading if the price of bitcoin or alts will going to increase or decrease. Even the chart is not permanent at all, it can change also.
it may look yes but this is not so that we can see cause we all know that trading analysis can one of the method only but not the base of you to know the next pump of the coin that you are holding this is just only one of the helpful method that you can ever used for.
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Oh, this is very informative. I thought I was going to be ignored because I'm a tiny fish in a world of sharks.
I really appreciate all the guidance, really grateful.

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