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July 31, 2013, 03:26:06 AM
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With efforts to make a GPU miner for Primecoin floundering (and I am skeptical it would even be more effective than a system with a good 64-bit X86 CPU and fast memory), I was wondering if using Parallela to build a Primecoin mining rig would work well.  It is low power, ideal for CPU intensive tasks, can easily add fast memory to it cheaply and is quiet and compact.  It is also infinitely expandable.

I was thinking of ordering: http://shop.adapteva.com/collections/parallella/products/parallella-cluster-kit
This was a kickstarter project.  Apparently they have already shipped boards to kickstarter contributors and sales to other customers will start in August.  Here is the page describing this project: http://www.adapteva.com/introduction/

It strikes me this would be good for any CPU intensive mining coin and Primecoin may be a great candidate for this.  

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July 31, 2013, 03:51:15 AM
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I've been thinking of buying one just to play with, primecoin and possibly even scrypt coins might be efficient to mine on this. Its only $99 to order one, even if its not usefull to mine primecoin its a fun linux computer you can play with. I'll buy it just as a toy and if it is efficient in mining primecoins all the better. Cheesy

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July 31, 2013, 03:57:24 AM
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I've been thinking of buying one just to play with, primecoin and possibly even scrypt coins might be efficient to mine on this. Its only $99 to order one, even if its not usefull to mine primecoin its a fun linux computer you can play with. I'll buy it just as a toy and if it is efficient in mining primecoins all the better. Cheesy
Yeah, I think it will be pretty efficient and the fact it infinitely expandable is great.  Means you can play with one and then buy more if you like it to sequentially increase the power. 
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July 31, 2013, 04:12:19 AM
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I've been thinking of buying one just to play with, primecoin and possibly even scrypt coins might be efficient to mine on this. Its only $99 to order one, even if its not usefull to mine primecoin its a fun linux computer you can play with. I'll buy it just as a toy and if it is efficient in mining primecoins all the better. Cheesy
Yeah, I think it will be pretty efficient and the fact it infinitely expandable is great.  Means you can play with one and then buy more if you like it to sequentially increase the power. 

I didn't buy it because of the TV thing... are we sure it would be fine to use it on your computer and super computer your computer instead of the TV?

I wouldn't want to overboard my PC and I don't know if our CPU is capable of handling it... It looks to be a standalone product.
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July 31, 2013, 04:25:32 AM
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I've been thinking of buying one just to play with, primecoin and possibly even scrypt coins might be efficient to mine on this. Its only $99 to order one, even if its not usefull to mine primecoin its a fun linux computer you can play with. I'll buy it just as a toy and if it is efficient in mining primecoins all the better. Cheesy
Yeah, I think it will be pretty efficient and the fact it infinitely expandable is great.  Means you can play with one and then buy more if you like it to sequentially increase the power. 

I didn't buy it because of the TV thing... are we sure it would be fine to use it on your computer and super computer your computer instead of the TV?

I wouldn't want to overboard my PC and I don't know if our CPU is capable of handling it... It looks to be a standalone product.
It is by design meant to be able to easily be built up in parallel to infinitely increase the power (hence the name Smiley ).
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July 31, 2013, 04:42:33 AM
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I'm thinking this would make a good piece of hardware to hook up to my 3D printer. I can use it as the print server and have it do all the slicing for me. Or even mod it to completely control the 3D printer by adding stepper drivers.

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July 31, 2013, 04:44:46 AM
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No good for scrypt, primecoin should work.

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July 31, 2013, 04:57:50 AM
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The Parallela doesn't look that great for floating point operations, hashing, etc.  I would go with a Xeon Phi if I was you
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July 31, 2013, 05:11:03 AM
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The Parallela doesn't look that great for floating point operations, hashing, etc.  I would go with a Xeon Phi if I was you

Care to venture a guess at what something like this would be capable of?

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?p=SY-74GRTPT&c=fr&pid=bd33f3bedf5496e23ff3cf7116596d12ea8d57decd4d9ff9d1f1455cd7c13848&gclid=COKTh__72LgCFa9fQgodnn8AqA

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August 01, 2013, 12:50:10 AM
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The Parallela doesn't look that great for floating point operations, hashing, etc.  I would go with a Xeon Phi if I was you

Care to venture a guess at what something like this would be capable of?

http://www.superbiiz.com/detail.php?p=SY-74GRTPT&c=fr&pid=bd33f3bedf5496e23ff3cf7116596d12ea8d57decd4d9ff9d1f1455cd7c13848&gclid=COKTh__72LgCFa9fQgodnn8AqA

Looks like a barebones chassis w/ Mobo for a Xeon processor. you'd get a pretty good rate on it, but tbh it's more cost effective to buy a corei5 or corei7, slap it in a cheap chassis. Maybe $500 per unit if you price it right.
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August 01, 2013, 06:47:56 AM
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No good for scrypt, primecoin should work.

Even 7020 version with 512KB of RAM?  I bought that version a few days ago just for fun, mainly for Monte Carlo/Machine learning stuff, but I thought I'd give it a go for some scrypt mining. 

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August 02, 2013, 10:11:58 AM
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No good for scrypt, primecoin should work.

Even 7020 version with 512KB of RAM?  I bought that version a few days ago just for fun, mainly for Monte Carlo/Machine learning stuff, but I thought I'd give it a go for some scrypt mining.  

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When I tried to buy it just now it said the 7020 version isn't available. How did you buy it?

Edit: Had to select With GPIO also Tongue
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August 02, 2013, 12:04:09 PM
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The power consumption is just way too high and you would need the 1024 to achieve ok speeds but bad power again.

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August 02, 2013, 12:05:21 PM
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The power consumption is just way too high and you would need the 1024 to achieve ok speeds but bad power again.
Way lower than GPUs and CPUs for the expected performance.  High compared to what?
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August 02, 2013, 01:45:51 PM
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Performance vs power consumption.  Iirc you would be paying in the neighborhood of 11 $/1khs

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August 02, 2013, 02:15:01 PM
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With efforts to make a GPU miner for Primecoin floundering (and I am skeptical it would even be more effective than a system with a good 64-bit X86 CPU and fast memory), I was wondering if using Parallela to build a Primecoin mining rig would work well.  It is low power, ideal for CPU intensive tasks, can easily add fast memory to it cheaply and is quiet and compact.  It is also infinitely expandable.

I was thinking of ordering: http://shop.adapteva.com/collections/parallella/products/parallella-cluster-kit
This was a kickstarter project.  Apparently they have already shipped boards to kickstarter contributors and sales to other customers will start in August.  Here is the page describing this project: http://www.adapteva.com/introduction/

It strikes me this would be good for any CPU intensive mining coin and Primecoin may be a great candidate for this.  

Thoughts?

Don't waste your time or money. If you understood the technology you would know that it's not anywhere near powerful enough to be used to mine Primecoins more effectively than a Xenon. Sure you could give it a try but I think it's just not worth the expense for the very marginal gain.
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With efforts to make a GPU miner for Primecoin floundering (and I am skeptical it would even be more effective than a system with a good 64-bit X86 CPU and fast memory), I was wondering if using Parallela to build a Primecoin mining rig would work well.  It is low power, ideal for CPU intensive tasks, can easily add fast memory to it cheaply and is quiet and compact.  It is also infinitely expandable.

I was thinking of ordering: http://shop.adapteva.com/collections/parallella/products/parallella-cluster-kit
This was a kickstarter project.  Apparently they have already shipped boards to kickstarter contributors and sales to other customers will start in August.  Here is the page describing this project: http://www.adapteva.com/introduction/

It strikes me this would be good for any CPU intensive mining coin and Primecoin may be a great candidate for this.  

Thoughts?

Don't waste your time or money. If you understood the technology you would know that it's not anywhere near powerful enough to be used to mine Primecoins more effectively than a Xenon. Sure you could give it a try but I think it's just not worth the expense for the very marginal gain.
Do you think a Xeon is better than a high end over clocked i7 processor?
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August 04, 2013, 03:48:41 PM
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With efforts to make a GPU miner for Primecoin floundering (and I am skeptical it would even be more effective than a system with a good 64-bit X86 CPU and fast memory), I was wondering if using Parallela to build a Primecoin mining rig would work well.  It is low power, ideal for CPU intensive tasks, can easily add fast memory to it cheaply and is quiet and compact.  It is also infinitely expandable.

I was thinking of ordering: http://shop.adapteva.com/collections/parallella/products/parallella-cluster-kit
This was a kickstarter project.  Apparently they have already shipped boards to kickstarter contributors and sales to other customers will start in August.  Here is the page describing this project: http://www.adapteva.com/introduction/

It strikes me this would be good for any CPU intensive mining coin and Primecoin may be a great candidate for this.  

Thoughts?

Don't waste your time or money. If you understood the technology you would know that it's not anywhere near powerful enough to be used to mine Primecoins more effectively than a Xenon. Sure you could give it a try but I think it's just not worth the expense for the very marginal gain.
Do you think a Xeon is better than a high end over clocked i7 processor?

With Primecoin it's hard to tell. I would think by design a Xeon is better but we'd have to do a test to find out which one actually generates more primes.
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With efforts to make a GPU miner for Primecoin floundering (and I am skeptical it would even be more effective than a system with a good 64-bit X86 CPU and fast memory), I was wondering if using Parallela to build a Primecoin mining rig would work well.  It is low power, ideal for CPU intensive tasks, can easily add fast memory to it cheaply and is quiet and compact.  It is also infinitely expandable.

I was thinking of ordering: http://shop.adapteva.com/collections/parallella/products/parallella-cluster-kit
This was a kickstarter project.  Apparently they have already shipped boards to kickstarter contributors and sales to other customers will start in August.  Here is the page describing this project: http://www.adapteva.com/introduction/

It strikes me this would be good for any CPU intensive mining coin and Primecoin may be a great candidate for this.  

Thoughts?

Don't waste your time or money. If you understood the technology you would know that it's not anywhere near powerful enough to be used to mine Primecoins more effectively than a Xenon. Sure you could give it a try but I think it's just not worth the expense for the very marginal gain.
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August 31, 2013, 09:33:29 AM
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Anyone bought one of these? Please let us know! I'm willing to get wet with this project.
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