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December 28, 2017, 07:28:30 PM
Last edit: December 28, 2017, 10:59:38 PM by dalofield
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Hello guys,

I've recently had a problem with my old wallet so i transferred my private keys to Electrum and i see my balance but when i send my BTC, it uses the receiving address of Electrum to send my BTCs but my BTC aren't there.
They are on my private keys, is there any way to send them?

Edit: I've come to the conclusion that this transaction
https://blockchain.info/tx/3e0f1a49776ca5442fbfe4782f9a89becc0349177d2b66edaf3bf9fae0d73350
Is the parent that is blocking about half of my BTC; i was able to fix my transactions with Electrum as it separated the coins into their own received wallets in the Coins tab.

But now my issue is with this one Dust transaction i have made from a BTC to BCH wallet.
I cannot possibly do anything to it but i am considering sending a bit more to that specific address so i can CPFP (or double spend, idk which one) back to me and it will therefore fix the unconfirmation.

This has been hell of one ride but i am just trying things out and somehow everything seems to half way its way through.

Edit 2: What i am doing right now, trying to fix the problem;
https://blockchain.info/address/16MKYjR9TxmgjCg9LR42DTC4pFevBbpxNM

Edit 3: It's a possibility i might have made it worst because it still stays "Unconfirmed parent"..... which means the root is not solved so anything can't really solve it apart from that.
I am considering attempting to send BCH or something, idk wtf im doing at this point.

Edit 4: So i actually fixed the problem with the following, or perhaps my BTC to BCH wallet transaction was pruned.
I am not exactly sure how, but i fixed it and now i have all of my BTCs back.
I think the way i did it was to send some more BTC to the BCH wallet so that it could still do another transaction back to whichever address, in which i emptied so that it didn't have dust in it anymore; because my BCH wallet originally had a dust (0.0001) in it.
https://i.gyazo.com/e2859ac389633ccc7ac3f8ec2b945dad.png
Electrum is one hell of a wallet, i really like its flexibility through the "Coins" tab
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December 28, 2017, 07:49:16 PM
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If you imported your private keys with Electrum, and you saw your balance, then everything went well and as it should be. Electrum should display any addresses and balances associated. So the balance you see, that's your Bitcoin.

Your Bitcoin private key is... private, should be a secret only you know. If anyone else knew it, they'd be able to use your funds. The public key, derived from your private key, generates the Bitcoin address(es) you see on your wallet. If you send now, you're sending your Bitcoin, from those addresses. You're just signing transactions with your private key.

In short, go on and send that BTC you see in your Electrum. They're yours.

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December 28, 2017, 08:04:53 PM
Last edit: December 28, 2017, 08:30:48 PM by dalofield
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If you imported your private keys with Electrum, and you saw your balance, then everything went well and as it should be. Electrum should display any addresses and balances associated. So the balance you see, that's your Bitcoin.

Your Bitcoin private key is... private, should be a secret only you know. If anyone else knew it, they'd be able to use your funds. The public key, derived from your private key, generates the Bitcoin address(es) you see on your wallet. If you send now, you're sending your Bitcoin, from those addresses. You're just signing transactions with your private key.

In short, go on and send that BTC you see in your Electrum. They're yours.

What doesn't make sense to me is that the balance isn't being used when i try to send something, but rather uses a new balance i had put to check if it was working; now the new balance is being used when i open the blockchain explorer
(0.016716 is the new one, 4.16718 is the one im trying to use and the one imported by private keys)

https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/address/1953dBKQBurF5QZtWq3Vs7x5pm68TGhn2E/transactions
https://i.gyazo.com/3227f657a0224daff428e1a8ab798db7.png
(This looks a bit messy cause i tried to do many things such as CPFP but all kind of didn't work out.
I went to sleep and came back to have found some have worked and some have not; my original problem was fixed but now i'm stuck with the problem that i can't spend my BTC;
They are dispersed in 4 different address where when i use the Send option, it does not use from any of those; it uses from the new address rather)

tl;dr: Basically, i have a balance and when i send it, it goes unconfirmed and doesn't appear on the blockchain as it should; i am either wondering if this is a problem with Electrum or the receiver (Quadrigcx in this case)
Above is some fragments of analysis i was able to come up with; from what i understand, an unconfirmed transaction that i did from a BTC wallet to a BCH wallet is disturbing transactions.
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December 28, 2017, 09:23:43 PM
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I think this can happen if you toy around with sending from transactions that were from unconfirmed transactions to begin with. I believe, it will eventually sort itself out on it's own but I'm not 100% sure. Might need some advanced users to chime in.

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December 28, 2017, 10:07:09 PM
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I think this can happen if you toy around with sending from transactions that were from unconfirmed transactions to begin with. I believe, it will eventually sort itself out on it's own but I'm not 100% sure. Might need some advanced users to chime in.



The problem is that i sent some BTC to a BCH address and i know that's the problem cause of the blockchain explorer
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December 29, 2017, 07:55:01 AM
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Hi there, I'm a little confused but let's try get you sorted. The screenshot you showed seems fine, and seems like you *can* spend the 4 BTC+ you have or appear to have. If the screenshot is showing all the confirmed transactions, then I would say all 4+ BTC is confirmed.

It is possible, that you cannot spend the coins you want to spend because they are actually unconfirmed.

1. Once synced (green button bottom right) look in the bottom left corner; what is the amount shown as "Balance"? That will be the full confirmed, spendable amount (with unconfirmed amount in brackets).
2. In Addresses tab, you can force Electrum to spend from a particular address (or addresses). Right click on the address you want to spend from (with coins!) and choose "Spend from". OR, right click all the addresses you don't want to use (you can ctrl+click for multiple) and choose "Freeze" so electrum won't use any inputs from those addresses.

You can also go to Tools> preferences> Check "Spend only confirmed coins" so you avoid making spends that have unconfirmed parents like you already do.

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