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July 08, 2011, 08:16:04 PM
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How long does it take for the payment to get processed?

I'm thinking of using this in a shop. You need payment processing in less than 3 seconds.

When it was working (having some issues now), the payment would show up instantly with 0 confirmations, and would even show a notification and play a sound. Confirmations still took the normal time-to-find-a-block amount

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July 08, 2011, 08:17:47 PM
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Has anyone been able to get this to do any more than spin?  Mine has been running since yesterday, has a 22 meg footprint, and still hasn't seen the coins that I sent it.  I'm using a Samsung Intercept, but it doesn't force close like Bitcoin Wallet did.

Mine took about 5 to 8 hours to finally finish spinning (I had to keep the app open and running for a long time). It started Force Closing the next day though, which is upsetting, since it worked extremely well when it finished spinning.

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July 08, 2011, 08:21:37 PM
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Has anyone been able to get this to do any more than spin?  Mine has been running since yesterday, has a 22 meg footprint, and still hasn't seen the coins that I sent it.  I'm using a Samsung Intercept, but it doesn't force close like Bitcoin Wallet did.

Mine took about 5 to 8 hours to finally finish spinning (I had to keep the app open and running for a long time). It started Force Closing the next day though, which is upsetting, since it worked extremely well when it finished spinning.

How large was your data footprint by the time it stopped spinning?

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July 08, 2011, 08:31:15 PM
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Yeah we really really need a block status indicator to help those of us who have been spinning for several hours troubleshoot.

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July 08, 2011, 08:43:52 PM
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iPhone Plz.

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I have solution manuals and test banks available for college students.  PM me.
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July 08, 2011, 08:46:39 PM
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Left it running for 9 hours last night. 4KB data footprint...

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July 08, 2011, 08:52:08 PM
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Has anyone been able to get this to do any more than spin?  Mine has been running since yesterday, has a 22 meg footprint, and still hasn't seen the coins that I sent it.  I'm using a Samsung Intercept, but it doesn't force close like Bitcoin Wallet did.

Mine took about 5 to 8 hours to finally finish spinning (I had to keep the app open and running for a long time). It started Force Closing the next day though, which is upsetting, since it worked extremely well when it finished spinning.

How large was your data footprint by the time it stopped spinning?

Sadly, I haven't tracked the data footprint (unlimited plan here), but the total file size is about 14megs for the block chain, and 24.19 megs for the whole thing

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July 08, 2011, 08:54:24 PM
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Has anyone been able to get this to do any more than spin?  Mine has been running since yesterday, has a 22 meg footprint, and still hasn't seen the coins that I sent it.  I'm using a Samsung Intercept, but it doesn't force close like Bitcoin Wallet did.

The force close is only because there was an incompatible wallet format change. Just remove all data with the app manager, and you'll be set.

FYI, I just implemented a progress in percent for block chain sync (see notification bar).

(https://market.android.com/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet)

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https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet
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July 08, 2011, 09:17:04 PM
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BTW, "Bitcoin Wallet" works just fine on the exact same phone. Granted, testnet's blockchain is MUCH smaller but still, that was a 5 second delay and this has run for hours...

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July 08, 2011, 09:29:22 PM
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FYI, I just implemented a progress in percent for block chain sync (see notification bar).

(https://market.android.com/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet)


Excellent.  Now how do I safely upgrade, without nuking my phone's wallet.dat?  The market doesn't show this as having an update available.

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July 08, 2011, 09:35:11 PM
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Can I recommend a feature?  If the phone is out of range of the network, or otherwise does not have Internet access, could this app use a shared wifi hotspot as an intermediary without access to directly transmit the transaction from the sender to the receiver's phone?  Much like your 'Blinkendroid' app can send data to numerous phones if they are all connected to the same hotspot?  This would permit users in the same place to transact so long as there was something like a pirate box available.

http://wiki.daviddarts.com/PirateBox

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July 08, 2011, 09:47:29 PM
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Can I recommend a feature?  If the phone is out of range of the network, or otherwise does not have Internet access, could this app use a shared wifi hotspot as an intermediary without access to directly transmit the transaction from the sender to the receiver's phone?  Much like your 'Blinkendroid' app can send data to numerous phones if they are all connected to the same hotspot?

Excellent idea? Are you aware of a standard?

I would think about transmitting the receiving peers address in the QR code, but then again the BitcoinJ framework currently does not allow incoming connections. I'll work towards it.

Bitcoin Wallet for Android: Your own Bitcoins, in your own pocket!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=de.schildbach.wallet
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July 08, 2011, 11:50:39 PM
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I have this app on my galaxy, Tons of potential.  however there is a disclaimer on the bottom of

WARNING: this is entirely experimental. you *will* lose your Bitcoins associated with this wallet! Use at your own risk, and use only with small amounts of bitcoins.

that makes me very wary of doing anything with it.
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July 09, 2011, 03:06:58 AM
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This is kinda cool, Wired just ran a piece on it.

http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2011/07/bitcoin-android-app/

Am I wrong or do they have this part backwards??

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When you want to transfer Bitcoins to another account, a QR code pops up on your smartphone’s screen. The other user simply scans the QR code with his or her phone, and the Bitcoins are transferred to the second phone’s account.

The phone that 'pops up' a QR code would be the receiver.
The person scanning a QR code would be the sender.


You're right, they have it backwards Smiley
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July 09, 2011, 03:07:20 AM
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This is really sweet. It's exactly the kind of thing that will bring Bitcoin to the masses, making transactions really simple.

Thanks for your continued work on this OP.  Grin

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July 11, 2011, 03:05:52 AM
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I installed it and it took forever to download the blockchain. I had sent two small transactions while it was downloading, and they finally showed up when it finished downloading. So now I wanted to see how instant the transactions were once it was up to speed. So I sent another transaction, it has 159 confirms on my computer, it's been over 24 hours, but it still hasn't shown up on my phone. In addition, I've sent two transactions from my phone to my computer, and they haven't shown up on either. The little circle is spinning (and has been for some time) but I don't know why. The blockchain file doesn't seem to be getting any bigger. I'm using an LG Optimus.

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July 11, 2011, 03:23:29 AM
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Awesome. Increadible.
 I expect that people at Google are going to make something even more valuerable with bitcoins...

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July 11, 2011, 03:58:43 AM
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My bitcoin wallet loss has finally prompted me to root my android (glad I did, and I guess something good came out of the loss). On a rooted android, it is possible to use Titanium Backup to back up the wallet and export the wallet file. Tested by wiping my bitcoin app and all associated files, reinstalling, restoring backup, and my coins are still in there. The wallet file is called prodnet.wallet btw, and is stored in the \data\data\com.bitcoinandroid\files folder. That folder is inaccessible unless your phone is rooted. It would be very usefull to be able to export/backup that file to another more accessible location from within the program itself for those who aren't willing to spend 3 risky hours rooting their phone.

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July 11, 2011, 04:05:47 AM
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I think it's probably advisable to only keep a small amount in a mobile wallet, not only because of the current lack of encryption, but because mobile devices are more easily susceptible to theft and loss.  I suppose you could employ other measures such as regular backups and remote wipe capabilities.  But still, in most use cases, I expect a user would only want a few bitcoins on his person anyway.

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July 11, 2011, 04:08:40 AM
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Awesome app.  This is why I wish I had an android phone.  Is there anything like this available for iphone?
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