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December 31, 2017, 01:20:31 AM |
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Would you buy guaranteed Citizenship which would automatically entitle you to an EU passport.
I know the law surrounding this area in my country and it is quite easy if you wanted it.
I appreciate your feedback.
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December 31, 2017, 01:27:49 AM |
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Would you buy guaranteed Citizenship which would automatically entitle you to an EU passport.
I know the law surrounding this area in my country and it is quite easy if you wanted it.
I appreciate your feedback.
Are you talking about a sponsored citizenship where a foreign national invests some large amount in some PSU project or purchases real estate? and the gov. grants them a citizenship??
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December 31, 2017, 01:54:51 AM |
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They are expensive options in the EU. There are many legal options which are frowned upon such as forced marriage etc..etc...
What I propose is lawful method to acquire citizenship and a passport, is this something that could be offered for BTC? In your opinion.
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December 31, 2017, 02:10:07 AM |
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The guy/gal who asked me for skype will know who they are, I can't send another PM because I'm a newbie so you need to send me your id.
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December 31, 2017, 02:31:40 AM |
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Are you planning to legally immigrate people or just illegally immigrate people by some random route. Seems pretty shady
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December 31, 2017, 02:43:22 AM |
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I don't deal in "legal" Either does BTC
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December 31, 2017, 02:53:17 AM |
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I don't deal in "legal"
Either Neither does BTC
BTC is a tool. Like atomic energy, it can be a source of clean sustainable energy used for peace, or be used for devastation. So no, BTC itself is neither legal nor illegal. As far as your question goes. Two things I need to know : 1. Whether the acquired citizenship is legal (not the method) - would it withstand government / official checks? 2. What would be the cost of such a citizenship? Considering the fact that you are categorizing sponsored citizenship as 'expensive' I am really curious to find out how cheap your way of doing things really is. Of course, for the right group of people, this would be very beneficial. But since you're a tool (not an insult - refer to the atomic energy example). THIS can also be used for nefarious purposes. So I am not sure whether theymos or the moderators would allow you to offer such services based on ethical reasons as well as major political reasons.
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December 31, 2017, 03:13:40 AM |
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1. It would be better than legal, it would be lawful. Since my country is ruled by common law but regulated by legislation and I have carried this action out before in the courts of the land that I live in and have been successful. Yes it would withstand all checks.
2. There is no price except what someone is willing to pay.
Believe me or not, I'm only trying to do someone else a favour, I've been in the same position.
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December 31, 2017, 03:19:19 AM |
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I don't deal in "legal"
Either Neither does BTC
BTC is a tool. Like atomic energy, it can be a source of clean sustainable energy used for peace, or be used for devastation. So no, BTC itself is neither legal nor illegal. As far as your question goes. Two things I need to know : 1. Whether the acquired citizenship is legal (not the method) - would it withstand government / official checks? 2. What would be the cost of such a citizenship? Considering the fact that you are categorizing sponsored citizenship as 'expensive' I am really curious to find out how cheap your way of doing things really is. Of course, for the right group of people, this would be very beneficial. But since you're a tool (not an insult - refer to the atomic energy example). THIS can also be used for nefarious purposes. So I am not sure whether theymos or the moderators would allow you to offer such services based on ethical reasons as well as major political reasons. Yeah if it's something like making a fake passport which I initially thought then it would be pretty risky. If it involves something like using some loopholes in the laws then maybe it'll make sense. Still don't understand his point of "as expensive as you want it". Does he mean he doesn't charge?
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December 31, 2017, 03:45:26 AM |
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1. It would be better than legal, it would be lawful. Since my country is ruled by common law but regulated by legislation and I have carried this action out before in the courts of the land that I live in and have been successful. Yes it would withstand all checks.
2. There is no price except what someone is willing to pay.
Believe me or not, I'm only trying to do someone else a favour, I've been in the same position.
Thats not the way to conduct a proper business. Set a price and wait for customers to line up. Yeah if it's something like making a fake passport which I initially thought then it would be pretty risky. If it involves something like using some loopholes in the laws then maybe it'll make sense. Still don't understand his point of "as expensive as you want it". Does he mean he doesn't charge?
Its not just limited to finding a loophole. This can be used by immigrants and terrorists alike. This can open a whole pit of worms if you ask me. Who's going to ensure that only the 'right' / 'good' people get in?
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December 31, 2017, 03:08:43 PM |
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1. It would be better than legal, it would be lawful. Since my country is ruled by common law but regulated by legislation and I have carried this action out before in the courts of the land that I live in and have been successful. Yes it would withstand all checks.
2. There is no price except what someone is willing to pay.
Believe me or not, I'm only trying to do someone else a favour, I've been in the same position.
Thats not the way to conduct a proper business. Set a price and wait for customers to line up. Yeah if it's something like making a fake passport which I initially thought then it would be pretty risky. If it involves something like using some loopholes in the laws then maybe it'll make sense. Still don't understand his point of "as expensive as you want it". Does he mean he doesn't charge?
Its not just limited to finding a loophole. This can be used by immigrants and terrorists alike. This can open a whole pit of worms if you ask me. Who's going to ensure that only the 'right' / 'good' people get in? Yeah that's true af this offer reeks of MANY levels of illegal. If you're caught you're probably just not gonna be deported, jail is ez
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December 31, 2017, 03:41:11 PM |
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If you read and understand law, there is legal ways to do things that may seem illegal to the normal public.
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If you read and understand law, there is legal ways to do things that may seem illegal to the normal public.
Its obviously possible to do things through the legal loophole. Why don't you fully disclose what you'll do and what are your charges and post a dedicated thread about it. If the moderators see that it's an ethical violation they'll tag & remove it. There's no other way of knowing whether it'll be feasible here.
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I read your posting and following pointless questions from the replies basically asking same pointless dead end questions that have nothing to do with getting a deal done or seriously asking about the document being offered ? ? ? !!! wtf ?
if you have ability to arrange and provide a EU citizenship and passport say what the important details are :
- how long it take to arrange, do u require any documents from the buyer , how and when payment made, is this document arranged by falsifying certain official papers in order to qualify for it or is it a straight out insider bribe type deal, if u wont name the country at least state general location - Balkans, Baltic, easter Europe, western etc.
entire post and replies completely pointless did not lead to or give any useful info.
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blah blah blah pointless
It was not pointless. If the OP is offering something illegal then this is not the forum to do it. And if the OP is legitimate with his offers he never provided any concrete way to verify it. Without such 'pointless' questions getting asked, simpleminded dolts may pay a scam artist AND end up in jail at the same time. Do you even understand the context here?
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Would you buy guaranteed Citizenship which would automatically entitle you to an EU passport.
I know the law surrounding this area in my country and it is quite easy if you wanted it.
I appreciate your feedback.
@ ronnyg28, i term this as unproffessional business attitude . Just like RuskiTravelAgent had mention earlier if, you intend offering any travel-connection deal why not go straight the point and provide details description of such serice. instead of allowing other member's to post inappriopriate comment(s) about your service. *I know there are loop-hole in most european countries (italy,spain) and most agency who knows how to go about manipulate these loop-hole legally can bring-in people into most eu countries.Thanks
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Why would anyone purchase this? Sweden and Germany are the easiest to get ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You only have to convert to Islam otherwise you probably won't get the citizenship. There was a guy who killed someone in the Middle East, then asked for asylum in Sweden because they'd treat him inhumane in their prison. They granted him asylum. So, basically: Step 1. Islam Step 2. Citizenship Step 3. ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Step 4. Profit Never claim you're a Christian South African farmers aren't getting asylum anywhere because of the genocide put upon them because they're white Christians Only claim Islam
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March 16, 2018, 11:41:08 AM |
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Why would anyone purchase this? Sweden and Germany are the easiest to get ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) You only have to convert to Islam otherwise you probably won't get the citizenship. There was a guy who killed someone in the Middle East, then asked for asylum in Sweden because they'd treat him inhumane in their prison. They granted him asylum. So, basically: Step 1. Islam Step 2. Citizenship Step 3. ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Step 4. Profit Never claim you're a Christian South African farmers aren't getting asylum anywhere because of the genocide put upon them because they're white Christians Only claim IslamThat sarcastic religious bigotry won't get you anywhere.
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March 16, 2018, 11:46:19 AM |
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He/She is probably talking about the golden visa by the way.
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March 16, 2018, 03:39:03 PM |
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I am most certain that if he provides more clarity, he would get a better reception.
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