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January 09, 2018, 05:14:14 PM |
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Daily maintenance fee is feixed to $2.452924. They simply cheat you with the amount btc mined ... the BTC amount must be 3-4 times higher ...
They have sold me 7.5 TH/s but in reality they give me 2 TH/s ( my contract of 7.5 TH/s is mining daily 0.0002 when it should be about 0.0009)..
The problems is not the fee the problem is real TH/S. they also not show the statistics just add you 0,0002 mined rest $2.452924 fee for maintenance and you see you total mined....
This is a robbery, have you contacted their support so they can tell you why you have little TH / if you only get 0.0002 btc a day ?, because it is strange that I have seen people who invested in the genesis mining gain much more which you're making every day, I'm not saying that you should invest in genesis mining or any other cloud mining, I'm just comparing and it's possible these genesis mining people are lying. Anyway, you should complain if something is not right.
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January 09, 2018, 10:14:35 PM |
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Daily maintenance fee is feixed to $2.452924. They simply cheat you with the amount btc mined ... the BTC amount must be 3-4 times higher ...
They have sold me 7.5 TH/s but in reality they give me 2 TH/s ( my contract of 7.5 TH/s is mining daily 0.0002 when it should be about 0.0009)..
The problems is not the fee the problem is real TH/S. they also not show the statistics just add you 0,0002 mined rest $2.452924 fee for maintenance and you see you total mined....
This is a robbery, have you contacted their support so they can tell you why you have little TH / if you only get 0.0002 btc a day ?, because it is strange that I have seen people who invested in the genesis mining gain much more which you're making every day, I'm not saying that you should invest in genesis mining or any other cloud mining, I'm just comparing and it's possible these genesis mining people are lying. Anyway, you should complain if something is not right. As far as I know Minergate has contract with hashing24 (This last one has contract with Bitfury). Maybe they pay some fees to hashing24 and that's what makes it less profitable but to be fair OP's profit must be double, not so low + consider the fact that price can fall, difficuly grows + in most cases they will expire contract with some silly arguments. This person doesn't gets what he has to get with his contract and you said genesis mining, this is the same (if not worse) shit too.
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January 17, 2018, 06:57:03 PM |
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The Minergate pool just not working as it should, deffinetly not. I bought Monero contracts 10H / S once a week, and every time I bought new contract, it gives me ~10% Less profit. First contract gives daily 10% more than second, and second gives daily 10% more than the last one. If they would really give 10H/s each, they would give approximetly same amount. So, there is really something fishy there....
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January 18, 2018, 03:17:08 AM |
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Congratulations on your detailed post. This only shows that cloud mining in any situation is not investment advisable.
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January 31, 2018, 11:03:55 PM |
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Any updates for week 2 and 3?
I bought $15 worth of hashing, based on day 1 results, after taking out maintenance, I shall get my ROI in about 3 years...
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February 01, 2018, 01:16:23 AM |
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Congratulations on your detailed post. This only shows that cloud mining in any situation is not investment advisable.
Correct, cloud mining is not good to invest, they are ponzi offering attractive return but if you are real investor you know to compute their offer ROI which will takes long period of time to get that profit. It is good to buy altcoin and hold for long period of time which will gives you much higher profit.
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February 01, 2018, 08:42:55 AM |
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No surprises here. At the current rate you are probably only going to make ROI after 500 days minimum, and that is probably not even going to happen since the bitcoin difficulty will continue to rise, and the price of bitcoin may go down during the duration of your investment.
This is a good test though, because it proves to the newbies that are investing in cloud mining how not worth it it really is. It can be profitable if bitcoin is going up like last year, but other than that you're probably not going to see profits.
You'd honestly be lucky to get ROI at all. I hope you do, at least. But the thing with cloud mining is that they will end your contract before you make your ROI, because your profits can't pay for the maintenance fees.
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February 12, 2018, 12:37:58 PM |
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Just updated original post ! ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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February 12, 2018, 04:20:34 PM |
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Congratulations on your detailed post. This only shows that cloud mining in any situation is not investment advisable.
Correct, cloud mining is not good to invest, they are ponzi offering attractive return but if you are real investor you know to compute their offer ROI which will takes long period of time to get that profit. It is good to buy altcoin and hold for long period of time which will gives you much higher profit. None cloud mining that could give us an advantage, they are all just take all the money had investors. In reality, cloud mining only performs numerical calculations only, in the absence of hardware mining. They try to attract our attention and they slowly commit fraud. This is a common occurrence in the world of digital currency. To this day I am amazed that why there are still many people who are easily attracted to the offer provided by cloud mining. Though already a lot of education that states that cloud mining is an investment that has a very high risk level.
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February 12, 2018, 11:11:47 PM |
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To this day I am amazed that why there are still many people who are easily attracted to the offer provided by cloud mining. Though already a lot of education that states that cloud mining is an investment that has a very high risk level.
Those who have been around for a while know that cloud mining isn't rewarding at all. The main problem here is the high number of newbies joining this market where they are looking to bank on the crypto hype. These newbies have zero understanding of how everything works here, and for that reason don't see any risk in these cloud mining services. For them it's a matter of choosing to invest thousands in actual mining gear, where they have to deal with power costs and such, or choosing to buy mining contracts where they don't have to do anything. On top of that, it's basically a passive income stream from that point, so an easy choice for newbies.
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February 13, 2018, 05:26:29 PM |
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Good thing I decided to investigate and do not invest 4000 dollars in the cloud, I focus better on studying the projects and will increase its value as it was doing, great information, I hope more newbies and Ublico in general can know this inormacion and take Me Jores decisions about their investments, and it is true the YouTubers, say that the mining in the cloud is the best...
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March 01, 2018, 06:35:12 AM |
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Hello, All! I am writing this with TERRIBLE embarrassment. I. AM. A. F'ing. FOOL! Start with:I have PTSD that has permanently toasted my memory; i.e. I do stupid stuff and will frequently do it again because I forgot how stupid it was in the first place. PTSD also keeps me up at night even though I am tired (I dont really want to explain why). So, I do stupid things repeatedly and I get real tired at night. Now, for the true idiocy!
Last night, I was up as usual and getting tired. this is when I'm dangerous with doing stupid stuff. I found this truly cool site called MINERGATE! This thing said all I have to do is send a small amount of BTC, and I could "rent" cpu power to mine for MORE BTC! HOLY Crap!! What a concept! My BTC is locked in a 48hr off-line vault, so I bought a few bucks of BTC and sent it in. Then it wanted more. I wasnt thinking, and I cant read for donkey dung (no concentration), so on the 3rd purchase, I figured out what I needed to do to make this thing happy. Now I've got $215 of the top of the rent into this thing, and it says it starts at Midnight! Weeeee! I came back today, looking to see where I doubled my money. HAHAHAHAHA! Right. Ok. Im a fool. Not the first time. Its finished processing, so... just give me my $215 back and pay the hamster wheel fees from my earnings. Uh... wait. How do I get my $215 back? That was a loan for the heavy CPU, right? I mean, they already take the rental fee from the earnings, right? I mean, thats what the $2-3 is FOR, right? So, give me back my core $215. Yeah, Im REAL stupid when its late and Im tired, but even I wouldnt give somebody $215 just to use their oversized PC for a day... Its late, again; so Im stupid, tired, dangerous, and cant remember EXACTLY whats going on, but I think I just got rolled by a really sleazy hooker...
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March 08, 2018, 10:17:57 AM |
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Original post updated !
Earned total USD: 142.32 USD ( In 70 days)
The surprise comes when after 70 day's when finally i have reached the Minergate Minimum amount that allows me to withdraw BTC. I can't withdraw the mined BTC, on the last step when i have to click last time on withdraw button i get this error: ERROR: Service is temporarily unavailable.
Now I can say for sure. Minergate is a 100% scam. If you invest less than € 200, you will never get to the minimum of withdrawal. And if you invest more ... the button to withdraw the BTC will not work.
I hope that this information will be useful to you.
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March 19, 2018, 10:37:44 PM |
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Original post updated !
Earned total USD: 142.32 USD ( In 70 days)
The surprise comes when after 70 day's when finally i have reached the Minergate Minimum amount that allows me to withdraw BTC. I can't withdraw the mined BTC, on the last step when i have to click last time on withdraw button i get this error: ERROR: Service is temporarily unavailable.
Now I can say for sure. Minergate is a 100% scam. If you invest less than € 200, you will never get to the minimum of withdrawal. And if you invest more ... the button to withdraw the BTC will not work.
I hope that this information will be useful to you.
Hi. Have you tried withdrawing again? Any updates? Thanks.
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I am new in cloud mining. I have around $700 in Minergate and I receive around 18K satoshi per day. There is no hashing power in genesis. I thought it's better than hashing24 and hashflare. Hi all. I have decided to test MinerGarte cloud mining and share my experience with you.
Initially the price seems pretty good if there is no stock in ViaBTC or in Genesis.
But the result is very different.
My results:
Price: $1094.41 Hash power: 7433.1021 GH/s Daily Mining: $5.415463 Maintenance: $2.452924 Daily Income: $2.962539 ( 0.00020618 BTC )
les than 3$ /day.... investing $1094.41
At the moment I'm not happy ... it should be at least double or triple.
I will update this message weekly, To show you the truth about Minergate Cloud Mining with real numbers ... and you will be able to know what is the real profit and the contract duration.
For all those who are thinking of investing in cloud mining !!!
Happy new year !!
First I wish you best luck, that you will at least get back your investment and minergate will exist those 500 days and more. To your numbers: If any legit cloudminer exists, you will not see a better ROI, because that are realistc earnings and only for profit on longterm, like you would mine with your own hardware. Calculate, how long you would have to mine to get the price of your hardware back, add also maintance fees, electricity costs and the costs of space for the hardware. Cloudminers cause addirional costs like administrative costs, server, staff, taxes and so on. And also they want to make profit. So you can't make quick profits on cloudminers. But the problem is, that almost all so called cloudminers are ponzi and/or scam or don't pay anymore and finish contracts, like you see now on genesis and hashflare. Are sure mate. I have concentrated on minergate mining with my 2 GTX 750 cards once but there was no hashing at that time well. Then I have tried to logged into the minergate site once after some months to redeem my bytecoin which I was mined. But I was unable to login and I tried to sign up with the same e-mail address and minergate accepted. I do not know what the fucking server they were using it.
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April 09, 2018, 02:34:04 AM |
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I am new in cloud mining. I have around $700 in Minergate and I receive around 18K satoshi per day. There is no hashing power in genesis. I thought it's better than hashing24 and hashflare. Hi all. I have decided to test MinerGarte cloud mining and share my experience with you.
Initially the price seems pretty good if there is no stock in ViaBTC or in Genesis.
But the result is very different.
My results:
Price: $1094.41 Hash power: 7433.1021 GH/s Daily Mining: $5.415463 Maintenance: $2.452924 Daily Income: $2.962539 ( 0.00020618 BTC )
les than 3$ /day.... investing $1094.41
At the moment I'm not happy ... it should be at least double or triple.
I will update this message weekly, To show you the truth about Minergate Cloud Mining with real numbers ... and you will be able to know what is the real profit and the contract duration.
For all those who are thinking of investing in cloud mining !!!
Happy new year !!
First I wish you best luck, that you will at least get back your investment and minergate will exist those 500 days and more. To your numbers: If any legit cloudminer exists, you will not see a better ROI, because that are realistc earnings and only for profit on longterm, like you would mine with your own hardware. Calculate, how long you would have to mine to get the price of your hardware back, add also maintance fees, electricity costs and the costs of space for the hardware. Cloudminers cause addirional costs like administrative costs, server, staff, taxes and so on. And also they want to make profit. So you can't make quick profits on cloudminers. But the problem is, that almost all so called cloudminers are ponzi and/or scam or don't pay anymore and finish contracts, like you see now on genesis and hashflare. Are sure mate. I have concentrated on minergate mining with my 2 GTX 750 cards once but there was no hashing at that time well. Then I have tried to logged into the minergate site once after some months to redeem my bytecoin which I was mined. But I was unable to login and I tried to sign up with the same e-mail address and minergate accepted. I do not know what the fucking server they were using it. Going back in the past on where i got used to mine using up gtx 1050ti.Its quiet reasonable but not just the same into other mining pools.I dont face any issue about withdrawals since i can able to get out once i hit the minimum.I have read lots of issues lately about that withdrawal thing,if its true then better not to use this thing anymore. On btc cloud mining thing it wont really be profitable at all when we do see the duration it will give you longer roi.
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October 08, 2018, 08:16:28 PM |
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Not necessarily scam, but almost all of them almost all the time are unprofitable and not able to break even, not talking to earn anything. This Minergate cloudmining seems no longer available at their website or maybe it is temporarily down, but I don't see it being offered anymore there ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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October 12, 2018, 09:21:13 PM |
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Minergate is SCAM. Be carefuly and use antivirus, if you want to try. It's much better to use your video card or asic.
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October 30, 2018, 04:21:46 PM |
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Minergate is SCAM. Be carefuly and use antivirus, if you want to try. It's much better to use your video card or asic.
Can't get why you call it a scam? i got some small invests in minergate by cloudmining and i could WD all to my freewallet without any problem. they DO withdraw at any amount with 0 fees to freewallet. i've calculated with Minergate and it was like around 12 month to get your money back (including their maintenance cost) well it seems fine to me. if i invest like 1 btc i will get back my 1 btc in a year, and my 1 btc will stay invested (cuz invest is lifetime) and i get every year 1 btc.. seems fine by me. also used GUI to mine, and got all my funds WDed on acc.. can show you some proofs if you need. just don't get why you call a site scam when it isn't?
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October 30, 2018, 04:42:54 PM |
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i've calculated with Minergate and it was like around 12 month to get your money back (including their maintenance cost) well it seems fine to me. if i invest like 1 btc i will get back my 1 btc in a year, and my 1 btc will stay invested (cuz invest is lifetime) and i get every year 1 btc..
Good luck with that. This Minergate cloudmining seems no longer available at their website or maybe it is temporarily down, but I don't see it being offered anymore there ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) That's right: I wonder why?
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