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April 11, 2014, 10:40:04 PM |
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I call scam, enough is enough now. I guess the stream of excuses has run dry  |
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Swimmer63
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April 11, 2014, 11:17:14 PM |
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I call scam, enough is enough now. I guess the stream of excuses has run dry This went bad long ago. I was lucky to get my moneyback about 2 months ago. Very poorly managed. I would not go so far as to say it was a scam. But in the end, the leader was less than competent. |
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PuertoLibre
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April 12, 2014, 04:46:46 AM |
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I'm OK with that...
Now I have boards made but there is again a problem with them. Since we skipped test to get them done ASAP(it would take at lest one week more) it looks like one of the components is incorrect. Still didn't find what that components is...
It's probably the ASIC... |
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capa
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April 12, 2014, 08:08:42 AM |
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It's a shame, i saw the cointamination board hashing on eligius, and it was really good.
Quite how we went from that to this is one for the XBT history books.
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Lucko (OP)
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April 13, 2014, 06:39:45 PM |
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I call scam, enough is enough now. I guess the stream of excuses has run dry Please say send me my boards now. You will see they are made and they don't work. I would love to do that so I have less of them to fix and someone will confirm the problem... It didn't run dry I'm just sick and tired of this. I'm working over the day and fixing this board at night. What else do you like me to do. Last week I end up in ER because I was neglecting to drink enough and my kidney stones return. One4many pushed me in making boards ASAP but had every chance to have them make sooner. Same goes for you. So please put your money where your mouth is(calling this a scam) and say send them now. Unfortunately this batch since we were pushing time limits went bad. I have no clue at the moment what is wrong. I tested components MrTeal told me that can be wrong and they are all OK. I'm fixing the board blind since I don't have full blueprints only assembly instructions. It is no fan testing components 1x0,5 mm. This went bad long ago. I was lucky to get my moneyback about 2 months ago.
Very poorly managed. I would not go so far as to say it was a scam. But in the end, the leader was less than competent.
Well I know a person who bought your boards and they are working just OK so really not sure about that but it was your choice. But Yes I agree it was my mistake giving everyone so many choices to make or wait. I should just make all boards not have made 6 small batches that increased the cost and chance to something go wrong with assembly. So yes that was a mistake on my part. The rest please point out where was poorly managed or was I less then competent. |
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April 14, 2014, 05:15:37 AM |
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I call scam, enough is enough now. I guess the stream of excuses has run dry Please say send me my boards now. You will see they are made and they don't work. I would love to do that so I have less of them to fix and someone will confirm the problem... It didn't run dry I'm just sick and tired of this. I'm working over the day and fixing this board at night. What else do you like me to do. Last week I end up in ER because I was neglecting to drink enough and my kidney stones return. One4many pushed me in making boards ASAP but had every chance to have them make sooner. Same goes for you. So please put your money where your mouth is(calling this a scam) and say send them now. Unfortunately this batch since we were pushing time limits went bad. I have no clue at the moment what is wrong. I tested components MrTeal told me that can be wrong and they are all OK. I'm fixing the board blind since I don't have full blueprints only assembly instructions. It is no fan testing components 1x0,5 mm. Excuse me ... so it is my fault that you had boards made which seem to be broken? Did I or anyone here else tell you to skip 'the normal process' with a the safety precautions or did you make the call yourself? My guess is the latter, so fix it and deliver the boards in a workable state. Thank you! one4many P.S.: Send a board to the MrTeal, he might have the time to find the problem. Worked sort of with the first broken batch. P.P.S.: Out of curiosity, have you ever produced a batch with working boards? |
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April 16, 2014, 06:11:49 PM |
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I plan to try the new firmware at the weekend. |
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Lucko (OP)
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April 18, 2014, 08:32:35 AM |
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I looked. And not sure if this will work. You can test but at the moment there is no point of doing that. Problems starts at 0,88 to 0,96V in most cases so I don't think this will work. It will work on some but those don't need slow rise firmware at all... |
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April 19, 2014, 06:51:36 PM |
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I looked. And not sure if this will work. You can test but at the moment there is no point of doing that. Problems starts at 0,88 to 0,96V in most cases so I don't think this will work. It will work on some but those don't need slow rise firmware at all... Hi Lucko So the new "economy/life extending software" may not work with the boards requiring the "slow rise software" But should be ok with boards that worked normally with the "standard software" Is this a correct assumption? Mudbankkeith |
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bx8389
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April 21, 2014, 08:50:00 AM |
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I looked. And not sure if this will work. You can test but at the moment there is no point of doing that. Problems starts at 0,88 to 0,96V in most cases so I don't think this will work. It will work on some but those don't need slow rise firmware at all... Hi Lucko So the new "economy/life extending software" may not work with the boards requiring the "slow rise software" But should be ok with boards that worked normally with the "standard software" Is this a correct assumption? Mudbankkeith Hello I tested last weekend: Only reliably works on board that won’t need slow rise software. On others I got mixed results: My advice is that desserve a try it but don’t place high hopes on it. Regards |
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one4many
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May 01, 2014, 07:19:05 AM |
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Lucko,
what is the status? When are you delivering the last batch with our boards?
one4many
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Lucko (OP)
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May 04, 2014, 04:51:38 PM |
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Same as I wrote you in a mail. I have send it to debugging company. I can't find anything wrong with it.
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May 05, 2014, 01:16:24 PM |
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Same as I wrote you in a mail. I have send it to debugging company. I can't find anything wrong with it.
Good to know that MrTeal doesn't care anymore ... who is the debugging company. URL / address ? I would like to know who and where they are. Thx one4many |
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MrTeal
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May 05, 2014, 10:14:26 PM |
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Same as I wrote you in a mail. I have send it to debugging company. I can't find anything wrong with it.
Good to know that MrTeal doesn't care anymore ... who is the debugging company. URL / address ? I would like to know who and where they are. Thx one4many It's not that I don't care, there is just nothing I can do about it. At this point the only real information I have is that there was an error in building the boards but which part is incorrect isn't known, and that the ASIC core power goes immediately into a current limit fault when it is powered on. Unfortunately something like that is almost impossible to debug remotely outside some basic checks, without having a copy of the board in hand to look at and test. If someone (ideally in Canada or the US) wants to tell Lucko to send me one of their boards, I can debug it and forward it along when I'm done. |
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Lucko (OP)
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May 06, 2014, 08:39:37 AM |
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At this point the only real information I have is that there was an error in building the boards but which part is incorrect isn't known, and that the ASIC core power goes immediately into a current limit fault when it is powered on. That was my assumption. But it doesn't look like it is. Unless I missed something it is assembled correctly. And from data I got back till now they also didn't find anything. Is there a way a new firmware for VRM is the problem? EDIT: Also there are no shorts. Is there a way to say ignore error? Heat will tell if there is really a problem. |
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MrTeal
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May 06, 2014, 08:00:21 PM |
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At this point the only real information I have is that there was an error in building the boards but which part is incorrect isn't known, and that the ASIC core power goes immediately into a current limit fault when it is powered on. That was my assumption. But it doesn't look like it is. Unless I missed something it is assembled correctly. And from data I got back till now they also didn't find anything. Is there a way a new firmware for VRM is the problem? EDIT: Also there are no shorts. Is there a way to say ignore error? Heat will tell if there is really a problem. No, the fast overcurrent faults are not something that can be programmed out. You can email me the details on what you've done with these units and I can comment on whether I can see an issue and any results the person you talked to might have found. |
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May 13, 2014, 06:04:51 PM |
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At this point the only real information I have is that there was an error in building the boards but which part is incorrect isn't known, and that the ASIC core power goes immediately into a current limit fault when it is powered on. That was my assumption. But it doesn't look like it is. Unless I missed something it is assembled correctly. And from data I got back till now they also didn't find anything. Is there a way a new firmware for VRM is the problem? EDIT: Also there are no shorts. Is there a way to say ignore error? Heat will tell if there is really a problem. No, the fast overcurrent faults are not something that can be programmed out. You can email me the details on what you've done with these units and I can comment on whether I can see an issue and any results the person you talked to might have found. Lucko ... again ... what is the status ... I suspect nothing happened again ... Send 2 boards to MrTeal so he can diagnose the problem, it can not be that hard to make a parcel ready. one4many |
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Lucko (OP)
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May 15, 2014, 12:33:35 PM
Last edit: May 15, 2014, 02:13:34 PM by Lucko |
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It was always something happening but if you are saying that I wasn't doing nothing last 10 days that is right. I was waiting and yesterday I got the report back.
1. it is put together correctly
2. they replaced components that can't be measured(with same as they were used for all batches)
Board is still not working and what they think is that there is ether a
1. defective component that is on all boards and in extra parts I still have but was not on all others that worked(all is same batch)
2. something to do with firmware
3. something to do with PCB that can't be detected in static stage and happens only in special conditions
I shared that with MrTeal too...
P.S.: I also looked over what was left over and it is in a ball park(some are always lost do to replacements when checked, inserting into PnP...)
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