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If you are the decision maker, can you accept this fact? Do you spend 3 million dollars to pay? Remember not to accept onion payment!
Which exchange are you referring, can you share some more information? $3 million at the of DeepOnion ATH which mean BTC was maximum $17000 (I'm sure it was low). According to that the listing price was ~175 BTC. I can't see any of reputed exchanges to charge such huge amount to be listed in exchange while Binance charges the most of 150 BTC at maximum- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079048.0There are more exchanges other than Binance which can be referred as tier-1. However, exchange listing doesn't matter that much. We had Kucoin but being delisted from Kucoin was the worst which DEV team could hold on by introducing some trading competition etc etc. And you said project is planning long term, any sign of that? 2: There is no clear completion time for the team's plan execution, which is very incomprehensible. Of course, everything will encounter problems, but there should also be a clear time schedule. Without a clear time schedule, is it a good dream for the holder?
Agree here, team should have come up with new roadmap to make some good progress of the project, of course the roadmap must be fulfilled on time. DeepSend with 1000 ONION has been released. Do we have any targeted group of users, how are we reaching to them?
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@Pffrt deepfan In 2018, when the onion price reached $20, I once represented the team in the negotiation of large exchanges. I must clarify some facts: 1. The development team has not said that it is unwilling to pay the listing fees of large exchanges. 2 The listing fee required by the exchange at that time was very expensive, the price was about 3 million US dollars 3. Don't accept onion payment 4. Need to ensure that the price will not fall below the price before listing for a period of time.
If you are the decision maker, can you accept this fact? Do you spend 3 million dollars to pay? Remember not to accept onion payment!
If you think this is a promising project, you should support the development of the project together with the dev team. The goal of the dev team is long-term. The current market environment is not good. Short-term speculation cannot continue to promote long-term growth of deeponion.
airdrop2.0 will not bring any long-term investors, rather burn all
Thank you for mentioning these additional information. To your points: 1. Nice that the Team was willing, but more important is the result than the willing. 2. Really all big exchanges requested listing fee of 3 million USD? And even if so, only the Dev fund was worth of more than 50 million USD at that time. Now, it's worth only around 150,000 USD so the result is that DeepOnion has neither good exchange nor funds to get listed. 3. There was enough liquidity at the peak of bullrun so it was possible to convert ONION to BTC and then to USD or maybe some part even directly to USD. 4. No coin can 100% guarantee that the price won't go below the listing price. With such condition, no coin would be listed ever, does not make sense at all. But listing on a big exchange was probably not the biggest mistake, considering the fact that DeepOnion did not manage to keep listed even on mid-sized exchange Kucoin due to low volumes. Bigger mistake is missing marketing which would bring new investors and traders creating both volume and price increase. Then the listing on some bigger exchange will become more relevant. And I'd be happy to support the project, but tell me, what are the long-term goals? I don't see any of them defined in an updated roadmap.
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3. There was enough liquidity at the peak of bullrun so it was possible to convert ONION to BTC and then to USD or maybe some part even directly to USD.
That was not possible. The maximum volume was 3.20 million on January 09, 2018. I don't think there was enough liquidity at that moment to dump 150000 ONION (@$20). It would destroy the market without any doubt. However, listing on some bigger exchanges was definitely possible back then but now we are left none.
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3. There was enough liquidity at the peak of bullrun so it was possible to convert ONION to BTC and then to USD or maybe some part even directly to USD.
That was not possible. The maximum volume was 3.20 million on January 09, 2018. I don't think there was enough liquidity at that moment to dump 150000 ONION (@$20). It would destroy the market without any doubt. However, listing on some bigger exchanges was definitely possible back then but now we are left none. I see higher volume on 10th January 2018 above 4 million on CMC, but that's not so important. Of course, it was not possible to dump whole amount during one day, it would not be a good idea even with higher volume. But it was possible to sell smaller amounts during the peak of price and volume which lasted around one week. Even with average price of around 15 USD per ONION, still would be a great deal. Of course, it's easy to say this now, when we have all these past data. And I'm also not saying that listing fee of 3 million USD is acceptable regardless of ONION price. Therefore I questioned it, I'm pretty sure that there were cheaper options. But most important is the general logic here. When the project has all funds in highly volatile ONION, it is not a wise decision in terms of risk management and project financing. There is a short peak with high value and then long time with very low value preventing any serious spending on development, marketing, listing, etc.
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Linux DeepSend without DV V 2.1.2 Registered on the DeepOnion Blockchain as usual. Verify with address Dix4r1CHMKXHYxRrrPjQiDXRCBWyDRdKTe. MAC/OSX DeepSend wallet V 2.1.2 https://github.com/deeponion/deeponion/releases/download/v2.1.2/DeepOnion-Qt-DV-v2.1.2.dmgRegistered on the DeepOnion Blockchain as usual. Verify with address Dix4r1CHMKXHYxRrrPjQiDXRCBWyDRdKTe. Here are some fresh nodes with new DeepOnion DeepSend 1 000 ONION limit. deeponion5vakcv6.onion:17570 v6e7zrgslx77m2vj.onion:17570 ymvzsujbndj7tggi.onion:17570 bi2xn7gxyundcbxq.onion:17571 qseqkozt3e4l6aax.onion:17571 mxetyoukwttchuir.onion:17571 cmusm467a6gzu6ru.onion:17570 jqz7vd3utr4ogskp.onion:17570 v2a6e3x5ppiy2ifs.onion:17570 d2uxsn7aa6xmfkeg.onion:17570 sqd5do4upzmrdb7y.onion:17570 o5bvllhydrjyvlcz.onion:17570 vt7mfqabcrguzxn7.onion:17570 wu6o64grqxmkdt2m.onion:17570 lizzei6s242lxxkk.onion:17570 kosemaivk7zuz4zw.onion17570 jrehkw4svevbrywn.onion:17570 ti3yonjdd47sgeul.onion:17570 zwlne6ei2dwbofjd.onion:17570 exj3ylgmjgd434tg.onion:17570 z67ynz42jikr6cj.onion:17570 other nodes and updated list here https://deeponion.org/community/threads/1st-deepsend-node-update-list.43979/new DeepSend forum opened https://deeponion.org/community/forums/deepsend.175/
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June 21, 2020, 02:21:45 AM Last edit: June 21, 2020, 02:31:47 AM by mo |
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If you are the decision maker, can you accept this fact? Do you spend 3 million dollars to pay? Remember not to accept onion payment!
Which exchange are you referring, can you share some more information? $3 million at the of DeepOnion ATH which mean BTC was maximum $17000 (I'm sure it was low). According to that the listing price was ~175 BTC. I can't see any of reputed exchanges to charge such huge amount to be listed in exchange while Binance charges the most of 150 BTC at maximum- https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5079048.0There are more exchanges other than Binance which can be referred as tier-1. However, exchange listing doesn't matter that much. We had Kucoin but being delisted from Kucoin was the worst which DEV team could hold on by introducing some trading competition etc etc. And you said project is planning long term, any sign of that? 2: There is no clear completion time for the team's plan execution, which is very incomprehensible. Of course, everything will encounter problems, but there should also be a clear time schedule. Without a clear time schedule, is it a good dream for the holder?
Agree here, team should have come up with new roadmap to make some good progress of the project, of course the roadmap must be fulfilled on time. DeepSend with 1000 ONION has been released. Do we have any targeted group of users, how are we reaching to them? Contact transactions for all ZB.com, huobi, OKcoin. Their list fees are 2 to 3 million US dollars At that time, the market value of the development funds was the highest. You can't calculate it at $20 each. Someone must accept the price of 175 BTC in exchange.
Thank you for mentioning these additional information.
To your points:
1. Nice that the Team was willing, but more important is the result than the willing.
2. Really all big exchanges requested listing fee of 3 million USD? And even if so, only the Dev fund was worth of more than 50 million USD at that time. Now, it's worth only around 150,000 USD so the result is that DeepOnion has neither good exchange nor funds to get listed.
3. There was enough liquidity at the peak of bullrun so it was possible to convert ONION to BTC and then to USD or maybe some part even directly to USD.
4. No coin can 100% guarantee that the price won't go below the listing price. With such condition, no coin would be listed ever, does not make sense at all.
But listing on a big exchange was probably not the biggest mistake, considering the fact that DeepOnion did not manage to keep listed even on mid-sized exchange Kucoin due to low volumes. Bigger mistake is missing marketing which would bring new investors and traders creating both volume and price increase. Then the listing on some bigger exchange will become more relevant.
And I'd be happy to support the project, but tell me, what are the long-term goals? I don't see any of them defined in an updated roadmap.
I do not make any investment advice. It is recommended that you talk more with the exchange to understand the truth. Everyone cares about the return on their investment, and they are all greedy. Remember to find the right investment
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We've a feedback from community member about DeepSync feature You can see how it actually happened and DeepSync completing sync in just 43 minutes. https://deeponion.org/community/threads/when-i-updated-to-version-2-1-2-and-got-the-error-the-console-on-the-buggy-deep-wallet.43978/ We've at this moment 91 nodes online at least 25 of it DeepSend nodes. addnode=deeponion5vakcv6.onion:17570 addnode=v6e7zrgslx77m2vj.onion:17570 addnode=ymvzsujbndj7tggi.onion:17570 addnode=bi2xn7gxyundcbxq.onion:17571 addnode=qseqkozt3e4l6aax.onion:17571 addnode=mxetyoukwttchuir.onion:17571 addnode=cmusm467a6gzu6ru.onion:17570 addnode=jqz7vd3utr4ogskp.onion:17570 addnode=v2a6e3x5ppiy2ifs.onion:17570 addnode=d2uxsn7aa6xmfkeg.onion:17570 addnode=sqd5do4upzmrdb7y.onion:17570 addnode=o5bvllhydrjyvlcz.onion:17570 addnode=vt7mfqabcrguzxn7.onion:17570 addnode=wu6o64grqxmkdt2m.onion:17570 addnode=lizzei6s242lxxkk.onion:17570 addnode=kosemaivk7zuz4zw.onion:17570 addnode=jrehkw4svevbrywn.onion:17570 addnode=ti3yonjdd47sgeul.onion:17570 addnode=zwlne6ei2dwbofjd.onion:17570 addnode=exj3ylgmjgd434tg.onion:17570 addnode=z67ynz42jikr6cj.onion:17570 addnode=iqmjcwrhbzfzn7hx.onion:17570 addnode=5cfyfgr4ouxcp7bf.onion:17570 addnode=sht57iput5p7ynwv.onion:17570 addnode=5odzplkuqjjb3ojx.onion:17570 addnode=jranccat3ahwotq6.onion:17570 addnode=fysjbvqph5nxms7i.onion:17570 addnode=cdjqe5xobqm7cgdh.onion:17570 addnode=jhbabtabiind5zmu.onion:17570 addnode=xwdfe2rwhr773nhs.onion:17570 addnode=px3ao5qn6ly6dg7h.onion:17570 addnode=acvdqorswvhphi2s.onion:17570 addnode=yj7qrhx3agk5pmwq.onion:17570 addnode=nxlfhvks35kgagqw.onion:18346 addnode=c3wgtsrbrfx32j7a.onion:17570 addnode=istvai2zl5p4ie2f.onion:17570 addnode=6ipsqwybc4pl6gnr.onion:17570 addnode=vjdiy4f76hc4oldk.onion:17570 addnode=4mz7enmwjbf2m3mv.onion:17570 addnode=mxyewnn3g5vatfzv.onion:17570 addnode=ag4of436msmtdjrn.onion:17570 addnode=bbzmcxrupwydsvej.onion:17570 addnode=lizzei6s242lxxkk.onion:17570 addnode=tbvt42j62xghpjkl.onion:17570 addnode=v2hwmsutskazvin7.onion:17570 addnode=deeponion5vakcv6.onion:17570 addnode=3exrzm6bok7a6oda.onion:17570 addnode=v6e7zrgslx77m2vj.onion:17571 addnode=sqvndpvmuvleit5k.onion:17570 addnode=skcrfil55tm5s2wt.onion:17570 addnode=tfpsb4x4jkuh4kbb.onion:17570 addnode=ln5ip27o2xdrkp6j.onion:17570 addnode=g4pjfkiyy6bgx622.onion:17570 addnode=yinpqpyt46s4d3r6.onion:17570 addnode=d2uxsn7aa6xmfkeg.onion:17570 addnode=upw74lhktfmz76hm.onion:17570 addnode=usdrf6fpubwia3sd.onion:17570 addnode=4ksrbmmgikszcui5.onion:17570 addnode=ygic63qzmkmqfoi7.onion:17570 addnode=nnnzuvf355kubmgm.onion:17570 addnode=fey337lk6flbsbrd.onion:17570 addnode=vjsw3b7skstwfq32.onion:17570 addnode=5cfyfgr4ouxcp7bf.onion:17570 addnode=z4z57qpxniwqsghj.onion:17570 addnode=bc6vdf644zpdnbq4.onion:17570 addnode=spk325fmpbwlpkh4.onion:17570 addnode=nazfgis2r67oz6yf.onion:17570 addnode=k5n4sjcsmgbmv5mf.onion:17570 addnode=ba4fc6cpmzcz3ob6.onion:17570 addnode=r4kyfixzyw3dbav2.onion:17570 addnode=chi6rlwedk3xmtua.onion:17571 addnode=iqmjcwrhbzfzn7hx.onion:17570 addnode=dekb7sfvfbx7z6in.onion:17570 addnode=2hmyqogddxb2mvmd.onion:17570 addnode=ycbtey5ki6v4o7ub.onion:17570 addnode=qs6j7mesaradcfo2.onion:17570 addnode=qlg7ngn4m4j3tlwl.onion:17570 addnode=nm3ndeit3afidvel.onion:17570 addnode=evlrufrz74iixwno.onion:17570 addnode=r46fwiiqwrdauctz.onion:17570 addnode=wcdbq7faaknn5vr6.onion:17570 addnode=rpg4wl2bqzwi2zdg.onion:17570 addnode=vpml6rvh27g4fo5i.onion:17570 addnode=3nwpvfiuumcnoany.onion:17570 addnode=6qvj2o4s4xscue6a.onion:17570 addnode=22357lpsowgmykxg.onion:17570 addnode=4z4mzke4tpmolhkb.onion:17570 addnode=i34qvqjivrjdyj4l.onion:17570 addnode=wy5dq56ldeudgw5j.onion:17570 addnode=tus3bjfwiubew2bh.onion:17570 addnode=pxo4gn62wpm7daqb.onion:17570 addnode=duskej35ammp473r.onion:17570 addnode=ctas5vimzg5pp3d7.onion:17570 addnode=z7lz27sredjij4dz.onion:17570 addnode=svb64df3mejh3wcx.onion:17570 addnode=t7jhf2bycpp376xl.onion:17570
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We've a feedback from community member about DeepSync feature
You can see how it actually happened and DeepSync completing sync in just 43 minutes.
Wow thats really fast! My first try to sync the wallet with the new DeepSýnc feature ends up with a crash of the wallet. Don't know whats happen, the window disapears from one second to the next for some reason. Just going to make the next try right now.
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We've a feedback from community member about DeepSync feature
You can see how it actually happened and DeepSync completing sync in just 43 minutes.
Wow thats really fast! My first try to sync the wallet with the new DeepSýnc feature ends up with a crash of the wallet. Don't know whats happen, the window disapears from one second to the next for some reason. Just going to make the next try right now. You need to have enough ram at least same size of zipped blockchain currently 1.3 GB. You can open support ticket support team can check in detail what happened. You can reach support ticket from this URL https://deeponion.org/community/support-tickets/open
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I do not make any investment advice. It is recommended that you talk more with the exchange to understand the truth. Everyone cares about the return on their investment, and they are all greedy. Remember to find the right investment
I am fully aware that the exchanges are not charity ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) No need to check with them, see the below link for a Business Insider article from March 2018 about listing fees. Maximum for top-tier exchanges was 1 million USD at that time. If they wanted more from you, then something was probably wrong. https://amp.insider.com/cryptocurrency-exchanges-listing-tokens-cost-fees-ico-2018-3But the topic of top-tier exchanges is not the most important now. As I already mentioned, more important is marketing of existing features, development of new ones and a strategy containing all these things. And I did not ask for any investment advice. I was just asking what are the long-term goals of DeepOnion you were mentioning.
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Wow thats really fast! My first try to sync the wallet with the new DeepSýnc feature ends up with a crash of the wallet. Don't know whats happen, the window disapears from one second to the next for some reason. Just going to make the next try right now.
DeepSync may not work on certain systems due to some limitations. It will be patched in the next release after more testing.
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Wow thats really fast! My first try to sync the wallet with the new DeepSýnc feature ends up with a crash of the wallet. Don't know whats happen, the window disapears from one second to the next for some reason. Just going to make the next try right now.
DeepSync may not work on certain systems due to some limitations. It will be patched in the next release after more testing. Thanks bizul, maybe I own one of this systems because also the second try ends up in a crash. Going to do it old school now with the latest quick sync file from DeepOnion Homepage. Edit: Gave it a third try and now it has just been finished. No clue about whats happen before ![Grin](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/grin.gif)
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We need feedback on new marketing material for DeepOnion DeepVault ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fdeeponion.org%2Fcommunity%2Fattachments%2Fqhpn2ap-png.190402%2F&t=665&c=xt4n6N4EYrek7Q) Feel free to share your thoughts.
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I do not make any investment advice. It is recommended that you talk more with the exchange to understand the truth. Everyone cares about the return on their investment, and they are all greedy. Remember to find the right investment
I am fully aware that the exchanges are not charity ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) No need to check with them, see the below link for a Business Insider article from March 2018 about listing fees. Maximum for top-tier exchanges was 1 million USD at that time. If they wanted more from you, then something was probably wrong. https://amp.insider.com/cryptocurrency-exchanges-listing-tokens-cost-fees-ico-2018-3But the topic of top-tier exchanges is not the most important now. As I already mentioned, more important is marketing of existing features, development of new ones and a strategy containing all these things. And I did not ask for any investment advice. I was just asking what are the long-term goals of DeepOnion you were mentioning. Okay, don’t discuss topics that weren’t implemented before, now important marketing, I don’t know the specific plan. Waiting for the release of the dev team
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We need feedback on new marketing material for DeepOnion DeepVault Feel free to share your thoughts.
Well, better than nothing, but if you consider one simple poster as a marketing material, then don't expect a lot of success. You should mention at least some benefits of this service in your marketing materials. Like that it is fast, simple, safe and cheap. Extremely low price seems to be the biggest competition advantage so you should point it out. By the way, why is there a limit of 100 MB per file? Some technical constraint? Can the limit be increased in future? Okay, don’t discuss topics that weren’t implemented before, now important marketing, I don’t know the specific plan. Waiting for the release of the dev team
It's still worth discussion, because same situation can occur again. Otherwise agree and as also mentioned in some of my previous posts, we should now focus more on the future. And I'm not surprised that you don't know the specific plan, because nobody from the community knows it. That's the most important thing now. So Dev team, wake up and share your plan finally.
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Hi team I'm happy to inform you that DeepOnion is now listed on Blockspot.io, one of the largest crypto/blockchain databases: You can see it here https://blockspot.io/coin/deeponion/ (DeepOnion (ONION) Price, Graph, Data & Info)
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Hi team I'm happy to inform you that DeepOnion is now listed on Blockspot.io, one of the largest crypto/blockchain databases: You can see it here https://blockspot.io/coin/deeponion/ (DeepOnion (ONION) Price, Graph, Data & Info) They provide some nice tools for chart analysis. This may be useful when volatility starts. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Fdeeponion.org%2Fcommunity%2Fattachments%2Fblockspot-io-chart-indicators-png.190412%2F&t=665&c=mM1MlbFx2Mc-Pg) Verify this image with DeepVaultOnline.com using this address: DoB66x5MwSuGXpiDvPnixf7gDUpyhQLx3C
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We need feedback on new marketing material for DeepOnion DeepVault
I would recommend to do some SEO works targeting some keywords like blockchain notarization, intellectual property etc. At the beginning, of course the target should be low volume keywords since they are low competitive. They provide some nice tools for chart analysis. This may be useful when volatility starts.
Seems a good one, yet to try it. Will check and share feedback someday.
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