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May 01, 2018, 06:11:58 AM
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As for gambling is about luck and wise, if you are a gambler once you win you can be wise take the money and gamble again in the next day. More people are become greedy of gambling they want to get all the money instead of winning their money will gonna lose all.

I used to believe same before I met some really talented people who used to win most of their games. I am not saying that they won all games but they were doing this for living and were successful. However, it needs a lot of practice to achieve that level, they were playing for about 7-8 years.
It might be true that you met some people in your life; the talented ones who win most of the games they play in gambling but still no one can say that I can’t be defeated in gambling as gambling is a matter of pure luck and sometimes it happens in gambling that the opponent you face in gambling is much luckier than you and at that time, no matter how experienced you are, you will lose.
In life, I believe that there would always be a balance where there would be times that you are winning, and there are times you don't. When greed triggers, probably the chances of you losing becomes higher because we all know that in the long run, you will lose. Even talented people experience losses, and more people will tend to lose money when greedy. It's always like that except when you are really lucky. Knowing when to stop definitely makes and breaks you whether you're on green or not.
This isn’t about being wise or not to identify when to play and when not to. This is all about the game that have only bad aspects on everyone’s life. Just find out any person who had gambled someday but he had a successful life? No, you can’t find anyone because gambling don’t let anyone surpass to live a happy life where it just damages the relationships and money related to this particular person.
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May 01, 2018, 06:41:28 AM
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The house always win the player either immediately or in the long run. This is due to they having an advantage of understanding how this game works when people win they will bet bigger amount and in the end the house will be the one that is benefiting. As long as you have a good strategy and with a strong discipline of following your strategy i believe it is possible but i suppose it will be difficult. 
You understand the gambling business very well. The house has always edge over the players. The owners of casino allow the new players to enjoy few victories in the beginning so that they won’t leave their casinos. After some time the player gets addicted to the game and that is when the house uses its power. All of a sudden, same player starts losing games and with time, all of his wealth vanishes.
I think the house have the edge because he is well more experienced than other players who for gambling as he has no restrictions of money on his gambling and can practice whenever he wants to but the away has to pay to learn gambling and definitely not every gambler has that much money that he can afford a lot of losing. Gambling is totally luck dependent so we can’t say that hose allows others to win in start.

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May 04, 2018, 05:21:15 AM
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The house always win the player either immediately or in the long run. This is due to they having an advantage of understanding how this game works when people win they will bet bigger amount and in the end the house will be the one that is benefiting. As long as you have a good strategy and with a strong discipline of following your strategy i believe it is possible but i suppose it will be difficult. 
You understand the gambling business very well. The house has always edge over the players. The owners of casino allow the new players to enjoy few victories in the beginning so that they won’t leave their casinos. After some time the player gets addicted to the game and that is when the house uses its power. All of a sudden, same player starts losing games and with time, all of his wealth vanishes.
I think the house have the edge because he is well more experienced than other players who for gambling as he has no restrictions of money on his gambling and can practice whenever he wants to but the away has to pay to learn gambling and definitely not every gambler has that much money that he can afford a lot of losing. Gambling is totally luck dependent so we can’t say that hose allows others to win in start.

Gambling operators are no jokers at all and are in business to profit so whatever it might take to rid you of your funds they will do it if it will even take them to make you win a series of games first. I experienced that with roulette a couple of times and they ended up winning all their money back and mine.
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May 05, 2018, 09:16:24 PM
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since bitcoin was introduced to me few years ago i've got this thing in mind
is gambling really about luck or can you beat the house using maths and probability?

well as for my i always YOLO bet a lot and sometimes it's working fine but most of the time it's not
i tried also using lowbets with strategy , mostly on dice autobetting, it seems fine but kinda boring, seems okay but it will bust in a time
so do you think gambling is about luck or you can beat the house with strat?

I'm pretty sure that you can't beat the house with any strategy. To make your own conclusions consider analyzing several bets on any gambling site. Take into consideration the following things: the bet amount, the multiplier and the profit on win. You will see that everything is perfectly calculated for the house edge to be exactly as declared.  So it's impossible to beat the house in the long run. But of course you can win with any strategy in a short term if you are lucky. Don't waste your time on creating betting strategies, all of them are the same with regard to your winning chance.
First of all, I want to clear your concept regarding gambling that there are more chances of house to win than away because house is very well aware of every up and down while the away is like the foreigner who knows nothing. You are saying that we can beat house by some sort of strategies but let me inform you there are no strategies introduced in gambling as it is a matter of pure luck.
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May 05, 2018, 10:23:23 PM
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As for gambling is about luck and wise, if you are a gambler once you win you can be wise take the money and gamble again in the next day. More people are become greedy of gambling they want to get all the money instead of winning their money will gonna lose all.
You should not even gamble next day gambling isn't a long term income you need gamble once in a month and try your luck gambling daily will give you a profit but will also get you addicted to it because of that you will start gambling daily and finally when you start losing you profit the site
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May 08, 2018, 08:25:09 AM
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As for gambling is about luck and wise, if you are a gambler once you win you can be wise take the money and gamble again in the next day. More people are become greedy of gambling they want to get all the money instead of winning their money will gonna lose all.
You should not even gamble next day gambling isn't a long term income you need gamble once in a month and try your luck gambling daily will give you a profit but will also get you addicted to it because of that you will start gambling daily and finally when you start losing you profit the site
This is the common problem of those gamblers who can't ignore the call of gambling. It is natural that a person will be involved in any gambling game, accidentally or not, but to make it a habit will surely be a big problem. Honestly, it had been discussed in this forum for so many times how gambling can be addicted when you play it everyday but of course there are people who would still gamble even if they know how bad or wrong it is. This is just like having a disease where you are prohibited to eat some kind of foods, the prohibition just only make the thirst and the temptation stronger so you'll end up doing it eating it anyway. This is also like in gambling where you will experience losses and will even promise yourself to never play again but you will likely end up finding yourself gambling again.

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May 08, 2018, 08:49:55 AM
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since bitcoin was introduced to me few years ago i've got this thing in mind
is gambling really about luck or can you beat the house using maths and probability?

well as for my i always YOLO bet a lot and sometimes it's working fine but most of the time it's not
i tried also using lowbets with strategy , mostly on dice autobetting, it seems fine but kinda boring, seems okay but it will bust in a time
so do you think gambling is about luck or you can beat the house with strat?

I really interested with the question and I think we can beat the house if the games are based on maths and using probability because as far as I know, we can use maths and probability in the gambling games but not all people can do a good math. and the most time people are only getting lost because they don't know how to calculate the percentages they win and only play a roll using any possibilities.

but in the gambling games, we really need the luck to beat your opponent and even to beat the house and sometimes you don't need a long time to be a winner and win the jackpot.

and the gamblers still playing the games without realizing that his life is not for just playing gambling and if we really care about our life then we need to leave the places and don't come back in the other day. or we can only play the games without using a big money so we can enjoy the games and we can prevent from being an addicting person in gambling.
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May 08, 2018, 06:25:39 PM
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As for gambling is about luck and wise, if you are a gambler once you win you can be wise take the money and gamble again in the next day. More people are become greedy of gambling they want to get all the money instead of winning their money will gonna lose all.
You should not even gamble next day gambling isn't a long term income you need gamble once in a month and try your luck gambling daily will give you a profit but will also get you addicted to it because of that you will start gambling daily and finally when you start losing you profit the site

Only for fun and entertainment it should be played as you can really lose out a lot of money when you become addictive to the gambling. People go bankrupt just because they want to earn money form gambling and it is not really possible for everyone to make money from it.


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May 08, 2018, 07:48:05 PM
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As for gambling is about luck and wise, if you are a gambler once you win you can be wise take the money and gamble again in the next day. More people are become greedy of gambling they want to get all the money instead of winning their money will gonna lose all.
You should not even gamble next day gambling isn't a long term income you need gamble once in a month and try your luck gambling daily will give you a profit but will also get you addicted to it because of that you will start gambling daily and finally when you start losing you profit the site
The luck can come to you at any time so no definition for how much time gap is needed between successive bets.The luck can stay for you one day so you need to make more bets at the day to make more money because the next day the it could be an unlucky day. Cheesy
Whenever you have spare money which can be spend on entertainment at that time only you should gamble that is the best way to avoid any serious losses.
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May 09, 2018, 07:30:52 AM
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Only for fun and entertainment it should be played as you can really lose out a lot of money when you become addictive to the gambling. People go bankrupt just because they want to earn money form gambling and it is not really possible for everyone to make money from it.

Those who have control over their emotions and can put a stop on their bankroll are able to save themselves from getting bankrupt. The whole idea of casinos is to make people go bankrupt and lose money and thats who the owners make money. If you are falling for this trap then its your loss if you dont realize that you will be practically unable to win the jackpot and thus your efforts go in vain.

Then again there are people who eat these delusions and thrive on them. They will always bring money to the casino owners. Tongue

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May 09, 2018, 11:54:45 AM
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since bitcoin was introduced to me few years ago i've got this thing in mind
is gambling really about luck or can you beat the house using maths and probability?

well as for my i always YOLO bet a lot and sometimes it's working fine but most of the time it's not
i tried also using lowbets with strategy , mostly on dice autobetting, it seems fine but kinda boring, seems okay but it will bust in a time
so do you think gambling is about luck or you can beat the house with strat?

I really interested with the question and I think we can beat the house if the games are based on maths and using probability because as far as I know, we can use maths and probability in the gambling games but not all people can do a good math. and the most time people are only getting lost because they don't know how to calculate the percentages they win and only play a roll using any possibilities.

but in the gambling games, we really need the luck to beat your opponent and even to beat the house and sometimes you don't need a long time to be a winner and win the jackpot.

and the gamblers still playing the games without realizing that his life is not for just playing gambling and if we really care about our life then we need to leave the places and don't come back in the other day. or we can only play the games without using a big money so we can enjoy the games and we can prevent from being an addicting person in gambling.
I won’t fill anyone’s head with such a hope that he can beat house if he learns some mathematics, even if it works. The reason is simple, it will encourage him to gamble and that is what I am strictly against. The fear of house is a good one. It may keep gambler in his limits and will break his spirit of continuing. Besides, no matter what calculations we do, we cannot compete luck.
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May 09, 2018, 01:29:40 PM
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You can definitely increase your odds of winning certain games with a strategy, e.g. Poker, chess, sports. But that is not the case for all games, I would say the best you can hope for are loss minimisation strategies. Most games that are played against other players are suitable candidates for strategy, but when you're up against a fixed edge with known odds, strategies are not useful in the long term.
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May 11, 2018, 04:48:29 AM
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You can definitely increase your odds of winning certain games with a strategy, e.g. Poker, chess, sports. But that is not the case for all games, I would say the best you can hope for are loss minimisation strategies. Most games that are played against other players are suitable candidates for strategy, but when you're up against a fixed edge with known odds, strategies are not useful in the long term.
In gambling you need to be lucky in order to win, there are skilled based games but you also need to be lucky to win.
I am playing sports betting and we know that it's a skilled based games as you can cap games, but in my experience it seems like games
can also be manipulated or what we called fixed games so that will kill our skills in capping.

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May 11, 2018, 06:00:35 AM
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As for gambling is about luck and wise, if you are a gambler once you win you can be wise take the money and gamble again in the next day. More people are become greedy of gambling they want to get all the money instead of winning their money will gonna lose all.
You should not even gamble next day gambling isn't a long term income you need gamble once in a month and try your luck gambling daily will give you a profit but will also get you addicted to it because of that you will start gambling daily and finally when you start losing you profit the site

Your idea is good but most of the people will not follow the rule to gamble once in a month, once they start gambling it seems to be the most addictive one from day one. Gambling will work to few people because most of the time they spent the time to find logic in gambling but people who don't have will always lose in gambling.
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May 11, 2018, 06:13:13 AM
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since bitcoin was introduced to me few years ago i've got this thing in mind
is gambling really about luck or can you beat the house using maths and probability?

well as for my i always YOLO bet a lot and sometimes it's working fine but most of the time it's not
i tried also using lowbets with strategy , mostly on dice autobetting, it seems fine but kinda boring, seems okay but it will bust in a time
so do you think gambling is about luck or you can beat the house with strat?

I really interested with the question and I think we can beat the house if the games are based on maths and using probability because as far as I know, we can use maths and probability in the gambling games but not all people can do a good math. and the most time people are only getting lost because they don't know how to calculate the percentages they win and only play a roll using any possibilities.

but in the gambling games, we really need the luck to beat your opponent and even to beat the house and sometimes you don't need a long time to be a winner and win the jackpot.

and the gamblers still playing the games without realizing that his life is not for just playing gambling and if we really care about our life then we need to leave the places and don't come back in the other day. or we can only play the games without using a big money so we can enjoy the games and we can prevent from being an addicting person in gambling.
I won’t fill anyone’s head with such a hope that he can beat house if he learns some mathematics, even if it works. The reason is simple, it will encourage him to gamble and that is what I am strictly against. The fear of house is a good one. It may keep gambler in his limits and will break his spirit of continuing. Besides, no matter what calculations we do, we cannot compete luck.
Either you fear from house or not, they will definitely eat you up. There are something that must be digested before getting into anything, any source of income. You must adhere them and if they are resonating with your mind and goals, only then go into there. Else, just get away from that because it can be harmful for you at the end. So just don’t ruin your life and the lives associated with you.
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May 11, 2018, 06:47:32 AM
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As for my experience, I see gambling only as pure luck. Maybe some people disagree with me but we have different insights and experiences in gambling. To be honest when I put my money into gambling, the only end result is going home empty - handed. I didn't experience going home with money in my pocket. This is the reason why I stopped gambling right now. I don't want to put my money into it.

I have watched I think months ago that there are some tricks in gambling especially in the casino games. I didn't remember the name of video but the content of that video is to reduce the number of losses you commit.

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May 11, 2018, 08:15:13 AM
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As for my experience, I see gambling only as pure luck. Maybe some people disagree with me but we have different insights and experiences in gambling. To be honest when I put my money into gambling, the only end result is going home empty - handed. I didn't experience going home with money in my pocket. This is the reason why I stopped gambling right now. I don't want to put my money into it.

I have watched I think months ago that there are some tricks in gambling especially in the casino games. I didn't remember the name of video but the content of that video is to reduce the number of losses you commit.

this is what I thinking so far and because gambling only depends on a luck factor, we cannot use gambling to make money and I don't think that we can win in one round, maybe we need more than one round to win the games. and maybe we don't calculate how much we are going to lose our money if we play more than ten round to get the win.

you are not alone that have the experience to going home without any money because we are losing that money in gambling places and I think we have agreed that playing gambling is risking our money without any chance to make a big money in short time. so I think we need to change our ways or our mind to not playing gambling in every day.

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May 11, 2018, 08:54:07 AM
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this is what I thinking so far and because gambling only depends on a luck factor, we cannot use gambling to make money and I don't think that we can win in one round, maybe we need more than one round to win the games. and maybe we don't calculate how much we are going to lose our money if we play more than ten round to get the win.

you are not alone that have the experience to going home without any money because we are losing that money in gambling places and I think we have agreed that playing gambling is risking our money without any chance to make a big money in short time. so I think we need to change our ways or our mind to not playing gambling in every day.
you can still calculate your loss if you set limit on yourself how much loss can you afford. you dont need to worry about losing if you just control yourself to stop betting you might regain that loss one day if you just dont let greed take you.

losing all money happened to me too because of my greed i lost all and i learned my lesson to not be greedy again, i decided to stop gambling now because i dont want to increase my lost.
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this is what I thinking so far and because gambling only depends on a luck factor, we cannot use gambling to make money and I don't think that we can win in one round, maybe we need more than one round to win the games. and maybe we don't calculate how much we are going to lose our money if we play more than ten round to get the win.

you are not alone that have the experience to going home without any money because we are losing that money in gambling places and I think we have agreed that playing gambling is risking our money without any chance to make a big money in short time. so I think we need to change our ways or our mind to not playing gambling in every day.


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this is what I thinking so far and because gambling only depends on a luck factor

No . You guys are both wrong, gambling isnt only depends on luck but it is still depend on what type of gambling that you are playing. You know ,there were lots of types of gambling games and some of them are also skill dependent like for example card games , sport games , esport games , etc

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we cannot use gambling to make money and I don't think that we can win in one round, maybe we need more than one round to win the games

Of course yes . We can always use gambling in order to earn money or a profit and many of people do actually make a living in the form of gambling and yes ,we can also win on just a single round . Me myself always win on just a single round and i usually quit in order to secure my winnings.

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maybe we don't calculate how much we are going to lose our money if we play more than ten round to get the win.

Not all. Most of the gamblers are smart and wise , they already calculate their capital or their wins/losses before they start to gamble. There were also peeps that play gambling without minding their winnings or losses because they only play gambling just for fun and not for profit.

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you are not alone that have the experience to going home without any money because we are losing that money in gambling places and I think we have agreed that playing gambling is risking our money without any chance to make a big money in short time.

You were not alone because infact i also experience it and i think almost all of us do already experience that kind of nightmare. Gambling is risky but some people are also lucky to win big more than what they loose.

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so I think we need to change our ways or our mind to not playing gambling in every day.

Playing gambling isnt actually bad thing but as long as you only have a self control , i think it is just fine to play gambling everyday or more oftenly.
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May 15, 2018, 01:00:01 PM
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I won’t fill anyone’s head with such a hope that he can beat house if he learns some mathematics, even if it works. The reason is simple, it will encourage him to gamble and that is what I am strictly against. The fear of house is a good one. It may keep gambler in his limits and will break his spirit of continuing. Besides, no matter what calculations we do, we cannot compete luck.
Either you fear from house or not, they will definitely eat you up. There are something that must be digested before getting into anything, any source of income. You must adhere them and if they are resonating with your mind and goals, only then go into there. Else, just get away from that because it can be harmful for you at the end. So just don’t ruin your life and the lives associated with you.
This is basic monopoly these houses are playing with you people. They get a specific amount of money from your winnings and loss as well. So, just don’t believe them and never come under their umbrella. Because if you do so, they will just empty you and eat up all what you have in your mind and your pocket. Live a healthy and wealthy life and that would be best for you and your family.

An individual may choose gambling as part of his entertainment, but that will give negative impact after some times. There could no possibilities for any unique gambling way as most people do lose in long run. If spending for unnecessary things is a way then you also may follow a gambler's way.
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