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January 04, 2018, 05:28:11 PM
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Spent some time recently looking for low marketcap, high growth potential privacy altcoins for 2018. All have a marketcap below $50m and not on any big exchanges yet but have active developers and good tech. I'm sure I missed some good ones but here are the best 5 I found recently:

1) Lux
2) Zoin
3) Solaris
4) Phore
5) Hush

I go into more detail and explain each one in this video: https://youtu.be/X0waJTP96bc. Let me know what you guys think.
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January 04, 2018, 05:43:56 PM
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Spent some time recently looking for low marketcap, high growth potential privacy altcoins for 2018. All have a marketcap below $50m and not on any big exchanges yet but have active developers and good tech. I'm sure I missed some good ones but here are the best 5 I found recently:

1) Lux
2) Zoin
3) Solaris
4) Phore
5) Hush

I go into more detail and explain each one in this video: https://youtu.be/X0waJTP96bc. Let me know what you guys think.

Seeing what happened with Verge there's definitely a possibility for some great returns, the only question that I have is one of thinking how many privacy coins do we really need? I feel the market could become saturated and then returns would be not so great.

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January 04, 2018, 05:55:06 PM
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Spent some time recently looking for low marketcap, high growth potential privacy altcoins for 2018. All have a marketcap below $50m and not on any big exchanges yet but have active developers and good tech. I'm sure I missed some good ones but here are the best 5 I found recently:

1) Lux
2) Zoin
3) Solaris
4) Phore
5) Hush

I go into more detail and explain each one in this video: https://youtu.be/X0waJTP96bc. Let me know what you guys think.

Seeing what happened with Verge there's definitely a possibility for some great returns, the only question that I have is one of thinking how many privacy coins do we really need? I feel the market could become saturated and then returns would be not so great.
I agree that the market is getting saturated but people will always flock to different coins to find the next big thing. A few months ago Verge would have been a joke if you recommended it to someone.
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January 04, 2018, 06:13:29 PM
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Spent some time recently looking for low marketcap, high growth potential privacy altcoins for 2018. All have a marketcap below $50m and not on any big exchanges yet but have active developers and good tech. I'm sure I missed some good ones but here are the best 5 I found recently:

1) Lux
2) Zoin
3) Solaris
4) Phore
5) Hush

I go into more detail and explain each one in this video: https://youtu.be/X0waJTP96bc. Let me know what you guys think.

All these coins are low cap project when compared to big boys like Dash and Monero, but if one or two of these list have Verge like growth it is enough, I believe privacy coins will continiue to be big player in the space
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January 04, 2018, 07:11:35 PM
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Personally I like XSPEC.
I agree that there will be increasing interest with privacy coins this year.
Many choices but I like xspec and the tech behind it the most
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January 04, 2018, 07:48:21 PM
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Personally I like XSPEC.
I agree that there will be increasing interest with privacy coins this year.
Many choices but I like xspec and the tech behind it the most
I like XSPEC too, think it will have a great year.
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January 04, 2018, 07:53:28 PM
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Personally I like XSPEC.
I agree that there will be increasing interest with privacy coins this year.
Many choices but I like xspec and the tech behind it the most
I like XSPEC too, think it will have a great year.

It seems a really good coin! As far I can read here and there they have not even start an active marketing!
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January 04, 2018, 08:04:31 PM
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These are not privacy coins, they all have rich lists. When you send coins to me I can look that up in the blockchain, see how many coins you have and with whom you transacted:

https://explorer.luxcoin.xyz/richlist
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/zoi/#!rich
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xlr/#!rich
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/phr/#!rich
https://explorer.myhush.org/richlist

Xspec too by the way
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xspec/#!rich

they're NOT private, all of them...

does anybody here do the least amount of research before they trhow money at something, or y'all just parrotting whatever some dude on the internet says?
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January 04, 2018, 08:05:10 PM
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Those picks are very weird and probably speculative. I would still prefer to choose monero dash verge xtrabytes and zash over all others as these coins proved themselves over time mostly.

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January 04, 2018, 08:11:57 PM
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I'm always interested in new privacy coins, but are there really any that can go up against the king, Monero?
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January 04, 2018, 08:13:29 PM
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Those picks are very weird and probably speculative. I would still prefer to choose monero dash verge xtrabytes and zash over all others as these coins proved themselves over time mostly.

Ya indeed, those picks were the worst.

But Dash doesn't really play along anymore in the privacysphere. Also, they have optional privacy and not on the protocol level. If a person is the only person using privacyfeatures, he sticks out, don't ya think. It's just a bitcoinmixer implemented in the protocol.

Verge actually proved nothing at all. They were supposed to hide IP's, but their wallet doesn't even do that: http://xvg.keff.org/ and we're still waiting for the wraith protocol, which should be stealth adresses, but those alone are totally not enough for reaching privacy.

Never heard of xtrabytes, but they also have a rich list, which means the blockchain is searchable with your address, so not private at all: https://blockexplorer.xtrabytes.global/richlist

zcash has a set of its own problems (because of the optional privacy which is, as already said, a very bad design choice). Quesnelle did some research, almost noone uses shielded transactions, and when used they can still be linked pretty easily: https://z.cash/blog/new-research-on-shielded-ecosystem.html

There is a reason why XMR is the new chosen currency on the DNM's you know...
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January 04, 2018, 08:14:30 PM
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These are not privacy coins, they all have rich lists. When you send coins to me I can look that up in the blockchain, see how many coins you have and with whom you transacted:

https://explorer.luxcoin.xyz/richlist
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/zoi/#!rich
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xlr/#!rich
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/phr/#!rich
https://explorer.myhush.org/richlist

Xspec too by the way
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xspec/#!rich

they're NOT private, all of them...

does anybody here do the least amount of research before they trhow money at something, or y'all just parrotting whatever some dude on the internet says?

For XSPEC specifically, if you did anything other than just look for a richlist you'd know XSPEC currently has a roadmap which will make it fully private in the near future.
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January 04, 2018, 08:15:13 PM
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I'm always interested in new privacy coins, but are there really any that can go up against the king, Monero?

At this moment, no!

Monero is the only coin with mandatory privacy on the protocol level, with the option to make it not private with the viewkey. Other coins are the other way: public blockchain with optional privacy (and mostly that optional privacy isn't as good as xmr's privacy).

So, no, there's nothing else, there's a reason why xmr is the new chosen currency on the DNM's...

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January 04, 2018, 08:16:43 PM
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These are not privacy coins, they all have rich lists. When you send coins to me I can look that up in the blockchain, see how many coins you have and with whom you transacted:

https://explorer.luxcoin.xyz/richlist
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/zoi/#!rich
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xlr/#!rich
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/phr/#!rich
https://explorer.myhush.org/richlist

Xspec too by the way
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xspec/#!rich

they're NOT private, all of them...

does anybody here do the least amount of research before they trhow money at something, or y'all just parrotting whatever some dude on the internet says?

For XSPEC specifically, if you did anything other than just look for a richlist you'd know XSPEC currently has a roadmap which will make it fully private in the near future.

Ya, show me the white paper and I will happily believe you when I can check how they will achieve that. The only thing I hear is promises that they'll achieve this. I don't invest in promises, certainly not in crypto where 90% of coins are scams (even without devs knowing they are scamming). So please, show me a peerreviewed whitepaper, otherwise I call vapourware....
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January 04, 2018, 08:21:54 PM
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These are not privacy coins, they all have rich lists. When you send coins to me I can look that up in the blockchain, see how many coins you have and with whom you transacted:

https://explorer.luxcoin.xyz/richlist
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/zoi/#!rich
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xlr/#!rich
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/phr/#!rich
https://explorer.myhush.org/richlist

Xspec too by the way
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xspec/#!rich

they're NOT private, all of them...

does anybody here do the least amount of research before they trhow money at something, or y'all just parrotting whatever some dude on the internet says?

For XSPEC specifically, if you did anything other than just look for a richlist you'd know XSPEC currently has a roadmap which will make it fully private in the near future.


Ya, show me the white paper and I will happily believe you when I can check how they will achieve that. The only thing I hear is promises that they'll achieve this. I don't invest in promises, certainly not in crypto where 90% of coins are scams (even without devs knowing they are scamming). So please, show me a peerreviewed whitepaper, otherwise I call vapourware....

Just checked your post history and saw that you attempt to rip apart any coin that isn't Monero so your intentions are clear. If you have questions I would highly suggest taking a look into the XSPEC slack and talking with the lead dev, as he is pretty active. Might clear up any questions you have.
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January 04, 2018, 08:27:14 PM
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Ya, show me the white paper and I will happily believe you when I can check how they will achieve that. The only thing I hear is promises that they'll achieve this. I don't invest in promises, certainly not in crypto where 90% of coins are scams (even without devs knowing they are scamming). So please, show me a peerreviewed whitepaper, otherwise I call vapourware....

Just checked your post history and saw that you attempt to rip apart any coin that isn't Monero so your intentions are clear. If you have questions I would highly suggest taking a look into the XSPEC slack and talking with the lead dev, as he is pretty active. Might clear up any questions you have.

well, it's alos not difficult to rip apart... they're not privacy coins, they all have rich lists, compare this to monero:
https://moneroblocks.info/richlist
no rich list, because the block chain is opaque: addresses are hidden, amounts are hidden, outputs are mixed, ... there's litterally nothing there in the blockchain...

so, I'm not ripping apart, if you want to use a privacy coin that isn't private at all, be my guest... but then why not just use litecoin... If I was trying to sell you a lamborghini and you could obviously see that it's just a stupid Renault, would you buy it because I promise it will become a Lamborghini?

about going to the lead dev: sorry, no, the normal scientific process is: you write down your theories, you vet these theories with references to scientific papers that actually prove stuff, you have your theories peerreviewed by other scientists who can be able to detect flaws in your thinking processes, who can make addendums etc... Then you publish this white-paper and you ask for a review by the scientific community. If all this works out positively, THEN you can go and sell 'a privacy coin'...

But selling something as private while there's no paper and no peerreview is just an empty promise, until something is delivered. And in crypto, you don't invest in empty promises, or you'll get burnt...
I'm here since 2012, I learned (and not always in a nice way) how these things go down. Don't invest in promises alone...
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January 04, 2018, 08:39:14 PM
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Look up Anoncoin.
True potential for 2018, one of the (if not the) earliest privacy coin.

Did not have its big pump yet but make no mistake, it is coming soon.

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January 04, 2018, 08:50:34 PM
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Just pick up some Btc on the BVM and no taxes apply Smiley The monitoring software may not come to light soon, but I'm sure it's being worked on everywhere.
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January 04, 2018, 09:19:17 PM
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Those picks are very weird and probably speculative. I would still prefer to choose monero dash verge xtrabytes and zash over all others as these coins proved themselves over time mostly.
If someone is investing in very low marketcap coins then they are speculating to the highest degree. The thesis is that one of them will make it through the trenches to the $1b+ threshold and make you a lot of money. At one point all of these coins had to start from the same place; low marketcap, only on crappy exchanges, no hype, skepticism over the product, etc.
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January 04, 2018, 10:31:20 PM
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I need to get some more Decred! I will likely be putting a few hundred into it.

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