How your taxes are spent...

[Anonymous]

Three contractors are bidding to fix a broken fence at the White House in DC. One is from New York , another is from Tennessee and the third is from Florida.

All three go with a White House official to examine the fence. The Florida contractor takes out a tape measure and does some measuring, then works some figures with a pencil. "Well," he says, "I figure the job will run about $900: $400 for materials, $400 for my crew and $100 profit for me."

The Tennessee contractor also does some measuring and figuring, then says, "I can do this job for $700: $300 for materials, $300 for my crew and $100 profit for me."

The New York contractor doesn't measure or figure, but leans over to the White House official and whispers, "$2,700." The official, incredulous, says, "You didn't even measure like the other guys! How did you come up with such a high figure?" The New York contractor whispers back, "$1000 for me, $1000 for you, and we hire the guy from Tennessee to fix the fence." "Done!" replies the government official. And that, my friends, is how government contracting works!

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[myrkul]

funny because it's true...

[TheGer]

This is how Govt. contracts work.

http://www.halliburtonwatch.org/about_hal/costplus.html

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All this is true.

So is this: Corporations exploit the earth in other nations by going there, bribing the officials with money and prostitutes in order to gain access to local resources, and then proceed to do untold damage to the ecosystem all to make a buck manufacturing palm oil.

[NghtRppr]

All this is true.

So is this: Corporations exploit the earth in other nations by going there, bribing the officials with money and prostitutes in order to gain access to local resources, and then proceed to do untold damage to the ecosystem all to make a buck manufacturing palm oil.

You don't own the entire ecosystem of the planet.

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You don't own the entire ecosystem of the planet.

Stupid fucking answer.

[NghtRppr]

You don't own the entire ecosystem of the planet.

Stupid fucking answer.

I'm sorry that you feel entitled to the entire planet but I just think you need to be reminded that you don't own the Earth and therefore your opinions on what to do with it are essentially worthless.

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I'm sorry that you feel entitled to the entire planet but I just think you need to be reminded that you don't own the Earth and therefore your opinions on what to do with it are essentially worthless.

So you're in favor of parasites and borrowing that which cannot be paid back?

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I'm sorry that you feel entitled to the entire planet but I just think you need to be reminded that you don't own the Earth and therefore your opinions on what to do with it are essentially worthless.

Also, my opinions are in line with science and those who have taken the time to study the ramifications of these things. Your opinion is in line with greedy people who have not taken the time to study any damn thing which would get in the way of their own selfish desires.

[NghtRppr]

So you're in favor of parasites and borrowing that which cannot be paid back?

A parasite on who? Do you own the world? No, so how can anyone be a parasite towards you? Borrowing from who? Do you own the world? No, so how can anyone be borrowing from you?

I'm beginning to see that most of the statists on these forums have two things in common, a severe deficit in civility and an inflated sense of entitlement.

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So you're in favor of parasites and borrowing that which cannot be paid back?

A parasite on who? Do you own the world? No, so how can anyone be a parasite towards you? Borrowing from who? Do you own the world? No, so how can anyone be borrowing from you?

I'm beginning to see that most of the statists on these forums have two things in common, a severe deficit in civility and an inflated sense of entitlement.

I offered some reading material to you, but you were too obtuse to take me up on the offer. This reinforced my suspicion that you do indeed wish to ignore (and thus remain ignorant) of those facts which would cloud your judgement regarding your own selfish desires.

[NghtRppr]

I offered some reading material to you, but you were too obtuse to take me up on the offer. This reinforced my suspicion that you do indeed wish to ignore (and thus remain ignorant) of those facts which would cloud your judgement regarding your own selfish desires.

Selfish desires? I have no dog in this race. I don't own an oil refinery, coal-burning power plant or lumber company. I like pristine land, clean air and fresh water just as much as you do. I just happen to have principles that prevent me from grabbing whatever I want by force.

Please just answer the questions. A parasite on who? Borrowing from who? Can you answer? If not, stop wasting my time. Your childish temper tantrums only illustrate how morally and intellectually bankrupt your position is.

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I like pristine land, clean air and fresh water just as much as you do.

Then educate yourself. There are those who claim to like the above, and those who really do. I suspect you're the former, by virtue of your ignorance on how economies interact with the environment and what the long term effects are. I've already offered plenty of information to you. If I thought you were genuinely interested, I would willingly offer more.

It's up to you.

[NghtRppr]

It's up to you.

No, it's up to you whether or not you answer my questions. A parasite on who? Borrowing from who? I suspect the answer is some absurd notion of society at large or future generations or anyone else besides the people that actually own the land in question.

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No, it's up to you whether or not you answer my questions. A parasite on who? Borrowing from who? I suspect the answer is some absurd notion of society at large or future generations or anyone else besides the people that actually own the land in question.

You're obviously not really interested.

[myrkul]

No, it's up to you whether or not you answer my questions. A parasite on who? Borrowing from who? I suspect the answer is some absurd notion of society at large or future generations or anyone else besides the people that actually own the land in question.

You're obviously not really interested.

Then why is he asking you a question?

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Then why is he asking you a question?

I know why he is asking the question. But that does not mean I need to share the answer with you.

[myrkul]

Then why is he asking you a question?

I know why he is asking the question. But that does not mean I need to share the answer with you.

Translation: I can't answer without sounding like a moron.

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Translation: I can't answer without sounding like a moron.

No. The correct translation is: It's not worth wasting one's time with those who are not really interested.

[myrkul]

Translation: I can't answer without sounding like a moron.

No. The correct translation is: It's not worth wasting one's time with those who are not really interested.

I don't know why I'm trying.