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July 11, 2011, 02:44:39 AM
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No one asked you to justify why people should think stealing is wrong. 

Again again again again again, you were asked to justify why your beliefs should be followed even if it brings the end of the world.

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July 11, 2011, 02:48:17 AM
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No one asked you to justify why people should think stealing is wrong. 

Again again again again again, you were asked to justify why your beliefs should be followed even if it brings the end of the world.
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July 11, 2011, 02:56:50 AM
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Again again again again again, you were asked to justify why your beliefs should be followed even if it brings the end of the world.

I said "regardless of consequences". That would include the end of the world.

Like I said (several times now), I can't justify why people should think stealing is wrong, regardless of consequences, anymore than I can justify why people should think blue is a pretty color. You either agree with me or you don't.

Work on your reading comprehension.
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July 11, 2011, 12:51:52 PM
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Again again again again again, you were asked to justify why your beliefs should be followed even if it brings the end of the world.

I said "regardless of consequences". That would include the end of the world.

Like I said (several times now), I can't justify why people should think stealing is wrong, regardless of consequences, anymore than I can justify why people should think blue is a pretty color. You either agree with me or you don't.

Work on your reading comprehension.

No kidding, that's the same as your original statement.  Now you just need to explain WHY.

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July 14, 2011, 01:28:25 AM
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you left out the part where they use Nuts Bolts and Wrenches that will break once a year and can only be bought from MR. NY's buddy in Boston.

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July 14, 2011, 01:50:53 AM
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you left out the part where they use Nuts Bolts and Wrenches that will break once a year and can only be bought from MR. NY's buddy in Boston.

And for some idiotic reason you keep buying them.

If you stop buying crap, they'll stop making crap.
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July 14, 2011, 01:53:23 AM
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you left out the part where they use Nuts Bolts and Wrenches that will break once a year and can only be bought from MR. NY's buddy in Boston.

And for some idiotic reason you keep buying them.

If you stop buying crap, they'll stop making crap.


Yea that's easy, I'll just stop buying cars and ride my bike 40 miles to work... oh wait...

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July 14, 2011, 01:56:02 AM
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Yea that's easy, I'll just stop buying cars and ride my bike 40 miles to work... oh wait...

"Oh wait... my inflated sense of entitlement has deluded me into thinking that I deserve whatever I want at whatever price I want."

The world does not owe you a living.
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July 14, 2011, 02:33:21 AM
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Yea that's easy, I'll just stop buying cars and ride my bike 40 miles to work... oh wait...

"Oh wait... my inflated sense of entitlement has deluded me into thinking that I deserve whatever I want at whatever price I want."

The world does not owe you a living.


No no no, see, it doesn't work like that.  You can't nonchalantly, condescendingly even, tell someone to "stop buying crap" as if living without said crap is of no consequence, then when they point out that not "buying crap" isn't a realistic option, turn around and tell them tough shit, no one owes you anything.  That just invalidated your theory that the making of crap is easily stopped by people not buying crap.  If not buying crap is going to create life hardship, people are going to keep buying crap and crap will keep getting made, because when the alternative to a crap car designed to break down all the time is spending five hours per day biking to work, I don't really have a choice.

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July 14, 2011, 02:40:28 AM
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No no no, see, it doesn't work like that.  You can't nonchalantly, condescendingly even, tell someone to "stop buying crap" as if living without said crap is of no consequence, then when they point out that not "buying crap" isn't a realistic option, turn around and tell them tough shit, no one owes you anything.  That just invalidated your theory that the making of crap is easily stopped by people not buying crap.  If not buying crap is going to create life hardship, people are going to keep buying crap and crap will keep getting made, because when the alternative to a crap car designed to break down all the time is spending five hours per day biking to work, I don't really have a choice.

He will argue that you made the crap choice to select being employed 40 miles away, when clearly you should have chosen to work across the street from your home. Of course this doesn't account for the possibility of knife wielding jugglers you may encounter in your daily activities, but if in fact you did encounter a knife wielding juggler during your day's activities, clearly, you made a crap choice that led to that encounter.
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July 14, 2011, 03:06:02 AM
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That just invalidated your theory that the making of crap is easily stopped by people not buying crap.

No it didn't. Stop buying crap and people will stop making it. The fact you're too lazy or unintelligent to stop buying it doesn't invalidate that theory at all. Get a new job. Start a business. Start walking. Telecommute. There are a myriad of options but even if there weren't, nobody owes you anything. Curl up and die if that's your only option. You won't be missed.
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July 14, 2011, 03:10:23 AM
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No no no, see, it doesn't work like that.  You can't nonchalantly, condescendingly even, tell someone to "stop buying crap" as if living without said crap is of no consequence, then when they point out that not "buying crap" isn't a realistic option, turn around and tell them tough shit, no one owes you anything.  That just invalidated your theory that the making of crap is easily stopped by people not buying crap.  If not buying crap is going to create life hardship, people are going to keep buying crap and crap will keep getting made, because when the alternative to a crap car designed to break down all the time is spending five hours per day biking to work, I don't really have a choice.

He will argue that you made the crap choice to select being employed 40 miles away, when clearly you should have chosen to work across the street from your home. Of course this doesn't account for the possibility of knife wielding jugglers you may encounter in your daily activities, but if in fact you did encounter a knife wielding juggler during your day's activities, clearly, you made a crap choice that led to that encounter.


Of course.  I'll just limit my job options to what's within walking distance of my house.  Why didn't I think of that brilliant idea myself?  That's just a genius idea that I can't see how a society full of people forced to work within feet of their own homes could NOT prosper.

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July 14, 2011, 03:12:29 AM
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That just invalidated your theory that the making of crap is easily stopped by people not buying crap.

No it didn't. Stop buying crap and people will stop making it. The fact you're too lazy or unintelligent to stop buying it doesn't invalidate that theory at all. Get a new job. Start a business. Start walking. Telecommute. There are a myriad of options but even if there weren't, nobody owes you anything. Curl up and die if that's your only option. You won't be missed.

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July 14, 2011, 03:14:50 AM
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That's just a genius idea that I can't see how a society full of people forced to work within feet of their own homes could NOT prosper.

Yes, because nobody would ever start making quality products if everyone refused to buy crap.

/sarcasm

That's also not the only option I listed but I guess you can't process all that information at once.
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July 14, 2011, 03:20:06 AM
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That's just a genius idea that I can't see how a society full of people forced to work within feet of their own homes could NOT prosper.

Yes, because nobody would ever start making quality products if everyone refused to buy crap.

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Strawman.  This is not the argument.  I never disagreed with this point.

For your review, the argument is that not buying crap is easier said than done, the opportunity cost is often too high, and sometimes is flat out impossible.

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July 14, 2011, 03:23:16 AM
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For your review, the argument is that not buying crap is easier said than done, the opportunity cost is often too high, and sometimes is flat out impossible.

Stop buying junk and someone will fill the gap in demand. If nobody can fill that gap then you're already getting the best quality/price possible and should probably stop whining since nobody can do any better.
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July 14, 2011, 03:25:02 AM
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For your review, the argument is that not buying crap is easier said than done, the opportunity cost is often too high, and sometimes is flat out impossible.

Stop buying junk and someone will fill the gap in demand. If nobody can fill that gap then you're already getting the best quality/price possible and should probably stop whining since nobody can do any better.


For your review, the argument is that not buying crap is easier said than done, the opportunity cost is often too high, and sometimes is flat out impossible.

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July 14, 2011, 03:26:50 AM
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For your review, the argument is that not buying crap is easier said than done, the opportunity cost is often too high, and sometimes is flat out impossible.

Stop buying junk and someone will fill the gap in demand. If nobody can fill that gap then you're already getting the best quality/price possible and should probably stop whining since nobody can do any better.


For your review, the argument is that not buying crap is easier said than done, the opportunity cost is often too high, and sometimes is flat out impossible.

Cry moar.

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July 14, 2011, 03:31:16 AM
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Yes, because nobody would ever start making quality products if everyone refused to buy crap.

There is not collective unity on the part of citizens to not buy crap. It's almost as if you think that the manufacturing of crap will stop.
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July 14, 2011, 03:59:35 AM
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seems like some did not understand completely.

The nuts and bolds are not prone to failure due to being poorly made, Built to tight tolerences and designed to fail.  When they do fail, you have to use use a proprietary tool, that is built to fail, and is priced artificially high.
I have been stuck using one of these tools.

At the wrong time the failure of some of these tools can cause a delay costing Millions of dollars. all to make a few thousand extra profit.

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