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May 31, 2014, 04:03:31 PM
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Load time for

https://www.cryptocapital.co/

is > 8 seconds, and there is no caching, so it's just as slow on the second load.

This is basic stuff. I hope it isn't a sign of letting the small things slide because the big things are totally out of control... but some investors are going to see it that way.
It's worse than you think - it's a wix website. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wix.com


I love that avatar pankkake, laugh every time I see it pop up. The site does load quite slowly and I ran into the situation of showing off the company and site to a handful of fellow BTC investors last week. Suffice to say the load time and site contents did not blow their socks off. With that said, I am willing to be patient while CFIG learns the ropes so long as they show a commitment to working with their investors.


In a future where CFIG is the global player and possible market leader, having a site that is crisp, clean and inviting will have to be in place. I am sure they are aware of this though and it will be something that is worked out down the road.
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May 31, 2014, 04:34:05 PM
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Seems like the load time of a pre launch site for investors is relatively insignificant.

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May 31, 2014, 06:28:49 PM
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It's not just investors, it's customers.

It's the main site.
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May 31, 2014, 07:50:19 PM
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It's not just investors, it's customers.

It's the main site.

Pre launch, so its mainly for investors. I doubt they have any customers at the moment with exception to the beta testers.

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June 03, 2014, 03:10:14 AM
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So how did this end? Anyboduy invested?

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June 03, 2014, 06:17:05 AM
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So how did this end? Anyboduy invested?
They raised a considerable amount of money literal months ago. This was just the latest announcement, and a fairly significant one at that.

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June 03, 2014, 06:08:08 PM
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Does anybody have any idea if CFIG, or havelock escrow, holds any of the IPO funds in bitcoin?

Given the recent price rise, and overall bullish upturn in the market, this is probably quite material in terms of both salvage value (in case of bad outcome) and runway/lift speed, in good scenario.

I suppose we will know for certain when CFIG publishes its next quarterly statement.

The next milestone will be when the first exchange goes live, and

https://www.cryptocapital.co/#!exchanges/c1df1

starts filling out.

Overall, I view CFIG as a bitcoin hedge, and also sort of a bet on the crypto ecosystem in general as opposed to bitcoin specific.

So, in a success scenario with both bitcoin taking over the world and CFIG succeeding as an enterprise, I would expect CFIG to do quite well for outperforming the dollar but not beating bitcoin in terms of absolute returns.  On the other hand, if something changes in the bitcoin story and another altcoin or altcoins mounts a credible market share grab, investing in something like CFIG will make a lot of sense.

I expect institutional investors interested in grabbing some crypto market share without exposing themselves to the full volatility of bitcoin might see it that way as well, so we could see the company traded on a mainstream stock exchange alongside bitcoin etf etc, as sort of core crypto portfolio company.

The main downside risk is technical and regulatory of course.

That 8 second load time is kind of a canary in the coal mine for me. And as others have brought up, it's not clear if the "offload your aml/kyc" strategy and foster a lot of mid size exchanges can get traction, let alone be legal in enough places.

Is bitstamp + btc-e + coinbase + circle going to have 95% of market share in five years? If the answer is yes, then CFIG is pretty much uninteresting.

But if we see a broad ecosystem of mid size exchanges with low founding costs, collaborating in a federated system, then there's a pretty good chance that CFIG was the pioneer of that particular model and has first mover advantage in a significant global market trend.

So, it's a hedge that could become a ten or hundred bagger I suppose.
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June 03, 2014, 06:42:38 PM
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My own particular view on the matter is that the service this company provides is in reality an exchange. Investing in this company is not really investing in the services they provide, but investing in the exchanges that use the service. That seems like a very valuable thing.

As for what they will achieve, I have high hopes. They handle all the regulation and finances, and the exchanges provide the customer experience.

As for your point on CFIG vs Bitcoin vs Dollar, I think its a simplified view.

This is a BTC denominated security, and their profits will directly be affected by the price of BTC. It should scale perfectly.


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June 03, 2014, 07:21:00 PM
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MrWDunne: That's an interesting perspective.

I notice you have counterwallet in your sig.

Is your cfig platform exchange going to include an xcp tie in? I rather hope so! Smiley
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June 03, 2014, 08:19:41 PM
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MrWDunne: That's an interesting perspective.

I notice you have counterwallet in your sig.

Is your cfig platform exchange going to include an xcp tie in? I rather hope so! Smiley
Potentially, but not definitely. Certainly not a priority but is on the agenda. If its not available at launch it will be available in the future.

I believe it deserves a lot more hype than say coloredcoins do

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June 24, 2014, 11:46:08 AM
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So when is the launch planned?
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June 24, 2014, 12:00:02 PM
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Their banking is already functioning - being using it a couple of weeks. They use Global Transaction Services solution at least for European part, which comes out a bit expensive (6 eur inward, 15 eur outward). Personal IBAN is a plus, though.
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July 14, 2014, 11:56:50 PM
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Any news to report?

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July 25, 2014, 12:19:10 PM
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We are fast approaching one year since Crypto Financial IPO'd. Other than the free Wix.com website at https://www.cryptocapital.co/, is there anything else of substance CFIG can show for progress? Any reason why CFIG took in millions of dollars worth of Bitcoin and decided to not spend any of that on a professionally done website to brand their new business?







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July 25, 2014, 01:09:34 PM
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We are fast approaching one year since Crypto Financial IPO'd. Other than the free Wix.com website at https://www.cryptocapital.co/, is there anything else of substance CFIG can show for progress? Any reason why CFIG took in millions of dollars worth of Bitcoin and decided to not spend any of that on a professionally done website to brand their new business?






An awful lot has been done behind the scenes...

I'm sure they will be revealing it within a month.

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July 25, 2014, 01:18:44 PM
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It seems like we always wait for the reveal and have to ask for updates. What happened to monthly updates, is that too much to ask?

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July 25, 2014, 01:23:32 PM
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It seems like we always wait for the reveal and have to ask for updates. What happened to monthly updates, is that too much to ask?

I think the next reveal will probably be "we are live"

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July 25, 2014, 02:05:51 PM
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...An awful lot has been done behind the scenes...

I'm sure they will be revealing it within a month.

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July 25, 2014, 02:11:32 PM
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Hopefully less than two weeks until launch...

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July 25, 2014, 02:20:40 PM
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Hopefully less than two weeks until launch...

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