4 year old 600 BTC transaction unconfirmed? Help!

[UnintelligibleBraille]

Hello all,

With all the Bitcoin news going around these days I decided to check my pc for 'that old wallet' I was sure to have laying around somewhere from fooling around with mining BTC a few years ago. Lo and behold I found it, and it has caused me a big headache in trying to figure out what's going on here...

When opening the wallet.dat file I found a ~600BTC (inbound?) unconfirmed transaction to (my address? https://blockchain.info/address/13TprxCKbWe2i1QrmtEHeRYafbjicL2ivG) which has apparently been that way since 2014.
image1 https://i.imgur.com/eBjKH1k.png
image2 https://i.imgur.com/FcOvClC.png

Can anyone please tell me what this means, if there is any way I can get to these bitcoins, and how I am supposed to go about doing this?

The transaction has the following properties:
image https://i.imgur.com/yACFX1m.png

tx-id:
c66189403a951eeea37f59b875947ff77a220b560821d5cc31bee1801255262a

raw tx hex:
01000000016701ce5cf4693164eb45b623352fb9b0c8a1e723bcc94d3e5295a04ac6507a1c00000 0006b483045022005c7ebadfd626d3ec4764270627c16e0d60531f20a64bc1dc884df6ae7b00165 022100d2127bbfcb77ec57e963aabf6716ba54ad1e88e6918e4e5d63e9b81c4008ce30012102192 baf4aee7cd765a07f4449bb4a64c6bf975e49e8916faf650838b125b9c974ffffffff02efe11bb8 e30400001976a91461f7e283237c0765b9423c9cbfb9278e690cdcb588ace85545d40d000000197 6a9141b0304e520cc4200e1c8688038c19d1363dec4eb88ac00000000

transaction status:
0/unconfirmed, not in the memory pool

Trying to resubmit the hex to the magic bitcoin pool of processing things by putting it in here https://live.blockcypher.com/btc/pushtx/ it comes back with the following:

"Error validating transaction: Transaction c66189403a951eeea37f59b875947ff77a220b560821d5cc31bee1801255262a orphaned, missing reference 1c7a50c64aa095523e4dc9bc23e7a1c8b0b92f3523b645eb643169f45cce0167."

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[otrkid70]

Let the Wallet Sync.

[UnintelligibleBraille]

I am definitely going to do that, would that really be it?!
I have checked my address online and it also shows 0 BTC balance. Sorry if this is a stupid question, but isn't this kind of stuff decentralised and thus not dependent on one wallet syncing?

[dlorah111]

Are you sure this is your wallet.

Looks like a hex edited wallet to show the balance but is actually false.
Tx ID is not known in the network.

I know of a scam where someone sold wallet.dat where he claimed to have lost the pass for. So the buyer could try and crack the pass for big reward.
But it was an edited wallet without any balance.

[UnintelligibleBraille]

Hi, thanks for the suggestion.

I am certain I have not gotten the wallet from a third party, nor have I edited anything in it. The wallet is not encrypted, I have extracted the private key and imported it into Electrum in my trials to try to get this to work (with no luck).
Electrum shows the history as being empty, with no currency in the address.

Can it be that the transaction was simply rejected + forgotten, voiding it and its related ID's? Speaking of bad luck.

[exander77]

Seems like fake, transaction does not exits.

[pooya87]

Can it be that the transaction was simply rejected + forgotten, voiding it and its related ID's? Speaking of bad luck.

no, your transaction was not valid to begin with. it was spending a transaction with currently does not exist which means that transaction was rejected or forgotten so your transaction became invalid.

if this was really 4 years ago, then the only possibility i can think of is that the first transaction had some issue like being non-standard so it didn't confirm.

raw tx hex:
01000000016701ce5cf4693164eb45b623352fb9b0c8a1e723bcc94d3e5295a04ac6507a1c
000000006b483045022005c7ebadfd626d3ec4764270627c16e0d60531f20a64bc1dc884df6ae7b 00165022100d2127bbfcb77ec57e963aabf6716ba54ad1e88e6918e4e5d63e9b81c4008ce300121 02192baf4aee7cd765a07f4449bb4a64c6bf975e49e8916faf650838b125b9c974
ffffffff02efe11bb8e30400001976a91461f7e283237c0765b9423c9cbfb9278e690cdcb588ace 85545d40d0000001976a9141b0304e520cc4200e1c8688038c19d1363dec4eb88ac00000000

the bold parts are the first transaction which this transaction is spending:

Code:

1c7a50c64aa095523e4dc9bc23e7a1c8b0b92f3523b645eb643169f45cce0167

it does not exist.

and the public key of the sender

Code:

02192baf4aee7cd765a07f4449bb4a64c6bf975e49e8916faf650838b125b9c974

which is this address:

Code:

19w1VwtV9Bfu4Vks2VskqZ7f7GMc1iNaRr

as you can see it has never received anything.

[Kakmakr]

Just out of curiosity, was the inbound transaction <600 BTC> send from someone else or did you transfer coins from one of your own Bitcoin addresses to another Bitcoin address that you own? The tx does not look valid at all, so I doubt that the sender will send the BTC again, after all of these years. <with the increase in value, since this tx was done>

It is roughly $9 484 000 worth right now at a price of $15k/bitcoin. ^phew^

[LoyceV]

no, your transaction was not valid to begin with. it was spending a transaction with currently does not exist which means that transaction was rejected or forgotten so your transaction became invalid.

if this was really 4 years ago, then the only possibility i can think of is that the first transaction had some issue like being non-standard so it didn't confirm.

Most of the time I read about problems like this, it turns out to be an altcoin-wallet which is loaded into Bitcoin Core.
@UnintelligibleBraille: any chance this was an altcoin-wallet?

[HCP]

Most of the time I read about problems like this, it turns out to be an altcoin-wallet which is loaded into Bitcoin Core.
@UnintelligibleBraille: any chance this was an altcoin-wallet?

I concur... the vast majority of these "I found an old wallet.dat with a XXXXXX BTC transaction, but it says unconfirmed" type threads generally turn out to be an altcoin wallet being loaded into Bitcoin Core.

Indeed, in this particular case, it looks like the OPs wallet was a Dogecoin Core wallet.dat, and the transaction is actually a DOGE Coin transaction: https://live.blockcypher.com/doge/tx/c66189403a951eeea37f59b875947ff77a220b560821d5cc31bee1801255262a/

So, while OP doesn't have 593 BTC to claim... there is 593 "unspent" DOGE... and possibly more

[LoyceV]

So, while OP doesn't have 593 BTC to claim... there is 593 "unspent" DOGE... and possibly more

That makes it $9 instead of $9 million.

[HCP]

So, while OP doesn't have 593 BTC to claim... there is 593 "unspent" DOGE... and possibly more

That makes it $9 instead of $9 million.

Yes, it may only be $9, but at least it will only cost $0.01c to transfer... instead of $9,000