AMD Vega 56 64 Frontier Mining Hashrate & Setup ? 3 Month ROI or less?

[VoskCoin]

Hey everyone, we all know the vega's are crazy profitable on cryptonight whether its the 56 or 64 and their prices have skyrocketed because of that. . if you can even find one

https://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814105073&cm_re=vega-_-14-105-073-_-Product


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My main question is who's mining with the frontiers w/ what settings and you have to be getting at least the numbers of the 64 vega which a card that at least looks cooler imo xD

At the current price of even 1000 per GPU per whattomine + factoring a minimal held coin value increase per crypto you would/could still ROI in 3 months (mainly looking at cards and if you pay $750 definitely the whole rig under 3 months per the calculation)



Pretty interesting time in crypto to say the least lol, so for those who are using these to mine could you shed some light how you maximize their performance?

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[wacko]

At the current price of even 1000 per GPU per whattomine + factoring a minimal held coin value increase per crypto you would/could still ROI in 3 months (mainly looking at cards and if you pay $750 definitely the whole rig under 3 months per the calculation)

It's not like nvidia cards where you've got loads of (shit)coins you can mine. Vega is a one trick pony that only does cryptonight well, and everything else is mediocre at best. It's a hot and very loud piece of gear, and quite finicky to run at max speed. If cryptonight coins go down then ROI might be well over a year.
 
I've also read a few posts recently from people not being able to run these (Frontier Edition) Vega cards at full speed when you've got more than 1 card in the rig. When it's just a single card then it does ~ 2 KH/s just fine, but as soon as another Vega card is added to the system, their hashrate goes down and the usual tricks that work for Vega 56/64 don't work here. Not sure whether there are workarounds for this problem yet.

[VoskCoin]

At the current price of even 1000 per GPU per whattomine + factoring a minimal held coin value increase per crypto you would/could still ROI in 3 months (mainly looking at cards and if you pay $750 definitely the whole rig under 3 months per the calculation)

It's not like nvidia cards where you've got loads of (shit)coins you can mine. Vega is a one trick pony that only does cryptonight well, and everything else is mediocre at best. It's a hot and very loud piece of gear, and quite finicky to run at max speed. If cryptonight coins go down then ROI might be well over a year.
 
I've also read a few posts recently from people not being able to run these (Frontier Edition) Vega cards at full speed when you've got more than 1 card in the rig. When it's just a single card then it does ~ 2 KH/s just fine, but as soon as another Vega card is added to the system, their hashrate goes down and the usual tricks that work for Vega 56/64 don't work here. Not sure whether there are workarounds for this problem yet.

sounds like im in for a nightmare lol

[wacko]

sounds like im in for a nightmare lol

Wait, did you already buy it? I didn't realize from your post that you've already placed the order. If that's the case then let us know how it goes. Maybe you'll figure out how to run multiple FE cards at max speed in one rig. Did you buy one or more than one of those?

[VoskCoin]

sounds like im in for a nightmare lol

Wait, did you already buy it? I didn't realize from your post that you've already placed the order. If that's the case then let us know how it goes. Maybe you'll figure out how to run multiple FE cards at max speed in one rig. Did you buy one or more than one of those?

Sold a rig to fund a new vega rig lol . . fingers crossed it works out xD

///side note I noticed you switched from altcom to intensecoin - what are your thoughts on altcom masternodes?

[wacko]

Sold a rig to fund a new vega rig lol . . fingers crossed it works out xD

Well, worst case scenario is that you'll have to run 1 or 2 cards per rig. Far from optimal, but might work with cheap rigs for the time being, until someone figures out how to do the disable/enable thing in the device manager for the FE cards connected with risers.

///side note I noticed you switched from altcom to intensecoin - what are your thoughts on altcom masternodes?

Not a fan of masternodes in general, so don't really have any thoughts. Intense is quite profitable to mine with AMD cards right now, probably even more so than ETN, and the coin itself seems ok, so I figured it's a decent sig campaign to participate in.

[N2DCRYPT]

I've got multiple FE's, can confirm the problem mentioned above. Driver support is bad. Devcon restarting the FE's doesn't work on the Blockchain drivers, works fine on the new Adrenalin driver. The "compute" option on the new Adrenalin drivers improves ETH, but not Cryptonight. Hoping for a future addition by AMD. Also, no wattman overclocking for these guys, have to use Overdriven. Like you, thought with the additional 8GB of HBM2 they might be an interesting mining play if the drivers catch up to speed. Don't think it's quite fair to call the cards a one-trick pony... they are the best single GPU ETH mining cards out there @ around 43-44 MH/s. Several other algos they are okay at as well. Hoping they'll continue to come into their own as software/mining programs are optimized for the HBM2 memory.

[wacko]

Don't think it's quite fair to call the cards a one-trick pony... they are the best single GPU ETH mining cards out there @ around 43-44 MH/s.

For the current price of a single Vega card one could get almost 3x rx 570, and that's 80+ MH/s with simple quiet cards. I mean, even two rx570/580 cards beat a single Vega card in ETH by a lot. I don't know, if Vega's were selling for the originally quoted MSRP's ($399 or something for RX 56?) then they would be alright. Paying $750 for that hot and loud beast though.. that's kinda crazy. Vosk has a youtube channel so he might have an excuse for it to be some sort of business expense (new content, more views and subscribers etc, plus the fun/experience from playing with new hardware), but for regular miners like myself Vega is not a very practical investment. It's really good on cryptonight, and, well, mediocre on everything else (considering the price, power consumption and all the quirks associated with running it at full speed).

Hoping they'll continue to come into their own as software/mining programs are optimized for the HBM2 memory.

I've had a few Furies and we also hoped that there'll be new miners optimized for HBM.. never happened. Maybe it will this time, we'll see.

[STT]

The mid range cards are probably doing better when including cost of the card and cost of elec.   The reasonably best ETH MH I saw for Vega was 47 but I imagine others have got higher?

Vega doesnt have to run hot if it undervolts well, that varys but alot can go much lower then anything stock indicates initially.   XMR appears the most profitable but ETH is very bullish crypto for a while now.

[VoskCoin]

Sold a rig to fund a new vega rig lol . . fingers crossed it works out xD

Well, worst case scenario is that you'll have to run 1 or 2 cards per rig. Far from optimal, but might work with cheap rigs for the time being, until someone figures out how to do the disable/enable thing in the device manager for the FE cards connected with risers.

///side note I noticed you switched from altcom to intensecoin - what are your thoughts on altcom masternodes?

Not a fan of masternodes in general, so don't really have any thoughts. Intense is quite profitable to mine with AMD cards right now, probably even more so than ETN, and the coin itself seems ok, so I figured it's a decent sig campaign to participate in.

I guess at the end of the day a 2 card vega rig wouldnt be the worst thing . .but not what I want lol xD

[VoskCoin]

I've got multiple FE's, can confirm the problem mentioned above. Driver support is bad. Devcon restarting the FE's doesn't work on the Blockchain drivers, works fine on the new Adrenalin driver. The "compute" option on the new Adrenalin drivers improves ETH, but not Cryptonight. Hoping for a future addition by AMD. Also, no wattman overclocking for these guys, have to use Overdriven. Like you, thought with the additional 8GB of HBM2 they might be an interesting mining play if the drivers catch up to speed. Don't think it's quite fair to call the cards a one-trick pony... they are the best single GPU ETH mining cards out there @ around 43-44 MH/s. Several other algos they are okay at as well. Hoping they'll continue to come into their own as software/mining programs are optimized for the HBM2 memory.

how many have you gotten working together stable on one rig?

[VoskCoin]

Don't think it's quite fair to call the cards a one-trick pony... they are the best single GPU ETH mining cards out there @ around 43-44 MH/s.

For the current price of a single Vega card one could get almost 3x rx 570, and that's 80+ MH/s with simple quiet cards. I mean, even two rx570/580 cards beat a single Vega card in ETH by a lot. I don't know, if Vega's were selling for the originally quoted MSRP's ($399 or something for RX 56?) then they would be alright. Paying $750 for that hot and loud beast though.. that's kinda crazy. Vosk has a youtube channel so he might have an excuse for it to be some sort of business expense (new content, more views and subscribers etc, plus the fun/experience from playing with new hardware), but for regular miners like myself Vega is not a very practical investment. It's really good on cryptonight, and, well, mediocre on everything else (considering the price, power consumption and all the quirks associated with running it at full speed).

Hoping they'll continue to come into their own as software/mining programs are optimized for the HBM2 memory.

I've had a few Furies and we also hoped that there'll be new miners optimized for HBM.. never happened. Maybe it will this time, we'll see.

help us find more 570s

lol my goal w/ them is figure them out or go insane  I'm worried it'll be a massive time investment to MAYBE get them working together/ stable . .


That point on the furies isn't very reassuring lol xD

[VoskCoin]

The mid range cards are probably doing better when including cost of the card and cost of elec.   The reasonably best ETH MH I saw for Vega was 47 but I imagine others have got higher?

Vega doesnt have to run hot if it undervolts well, that varys but alot can go much lower then anything stock indicates initially.   XMR appears the most profitable but ETH is very bullish crypto for a while now.

Do you have any frontier vega's and if so what are your settings?

[KaydenC]

Do you have any frontier vega's and if so what are your settings?

Used to own a FE , my setting are 1400 core, 1100 mem, 850mv, target temp 65. 2050h/s. I was never able to mix FE in with Vega 56/64s.

Sold all my vegas because they take an unreasonable amount of effort and maintenance. Literally 75% of my time spent on 2 rigs lol.

I'm going full 1080ti/1070ti and selling my remaining polaris cards too, have too few of them compared to Nvidia and since I switch coins daily, nvidia cards are better price perf for me than polaris.

[varange]

sounds like im in for a nightmare lol

Wait, did you already buy it? I didn't realize from your post that you've already placed the order. If that's the case then let us know how it goes. Maybe you'll figure out how to run multiple FE cards at max speed in one rig. Did you buy one or more than one of those?

Can't wait for your next vid! So excited to see some stats on the Vegas.

By the way: amazingly even here in Thailand  the more popular cards like 470s, etc are impossible to get. Normally you can buy anything - ANYTHING-  in Bangkok. Just not graphics card, lol.

[N2DCRYPT]

I've got multiple FE's, can confirm the problem mentioned above. Driver support is bad. Devcon restarting the FE's doesn't work on the Blockchain drivers, works fine on the new Adrenalin driver. The "compute" option on the new Adrenalin drivers improves ETH, but not Cryptonight. Hoping for a future addition by AMD. Also, no wattman overclocking for these guys, have to use Overdriven. Like you, thought with the additional 8GB of HBM2 they might be an interesting mining play if the drivers catch up to speed. Don't think it's quite fair to call the cards a one-trick pony... they are the best single GPU ETH mining cards out there @ around 43-44 MH/s. Several other algos they are okay at as well. Hoping they'll continue to come into their own as software/mining programs are optimized for the HBM2 memory.

how many have you gotten working together stable on one rig?

Depends on the algo. Most on Cryptonight at 2k h/s with Blockchain drivers? 2. Even then it required a very specific and weird approach to get it working, very finicky. With the adrenalin drivers, 3 (all I have at this point, didn't want to risk more than that  ) on ETH. I think it would be possible to have a full FE rig on ETH with adrenalin drivers.

[N2DCRYPT]

Don't think it's quite fair to call the cards a one-trick pony... they are the best single GPU ETH mining cards out there @ around 43-44 MH/s.

For the current price of a single Vega card one could get almost 3x rx 570, and that's 80+ MH/s with simple quiet cards. I mean, even two rx570/580 cards beat a single Vega card in ETH by a lot. I don't know, if Vega's were selling for the originally quoted MSRP's ($399 or something for RX 56?) then they would be alright. Paying $750 for that hot and loud beast though.. that's kinda crazy. Vosk has a youtube channel so he might have an excuse for it to be some sort of business expense (new content, more views and subscribers etc, plus the fun/experience from playing with new hardware), but for regular miners like myself Vega is not a very practical investment. It's really good on cryptonight, and, well, mediocre on everything else (considering the price, power consumption and all the quirks associated with running it at full speed).

Hoping they'll continue to come into their own as software/mining programs are optimized for the HBM2 memory.

I've had a few Furies and we also hoped that there'll be new miners optimized for HBM.. never happened. Maybe it will this time, we'll see.

You're right on for sure. And I'll be the first to admit I did it as a speculative play hoping for further optimization, which may or may not happen. And I may be just trying to justify a bad rookie mining purchase to make myself feel better In that case at least I get to look at them... they are beautiful cards at least 

Definitely more risky, since it's now at 1080ti price point with only one algo that cranks out 1080ti profits. But push comes to shove, is it dumb to get a 6-mo ROI card?

[jmigdlc99]

how many have you gotten working together stable on one rig?

To get them VEGAs stable you need to do some scripting. My VEGAs run at full speed for a few hours then suddenly they just stop. No errors or hang, they just simply stop mining using Cast XMR or XMR-STAK. Either use the "JJ restart script" you can find on reddit/google or write your own script. I initially tried the devcon.exe and and JJ restart script but found it doesn't work for me. I just wrote a script that reboots my computer every hour. 2 lines of code did it and my VEGA rig is now running stable.

The 2 lines of code were:

Code:

Sleep(360000)
Shutdown("restart")

[Daaaveee]

Hey Vosk, love the videos, Tails No.1 fan here, hope she is feeling good now!

I'm running an almost 'trio' rig (2 cards on board 1 on riser, Z270P-D3) 2x Vega 56 and 1x Vega 64 I managed to pick up for less than $500 each. They have been super profitable for me at this price and already nearing ROI. I just followed the steps on this site and make sure to keep the power limit down, they're all over 1900H/s, running mid 50s temps and around 2000-2200 rpm fan speed so not loud like a lot of people say. I havn't messed around with BIOS flashing or power table changes. I thin kI might be able to drop power consumption a bit but around 600w for 5750H/s is fine for me.

http://www.gandalph3000.com/cast_xmr/cast-xmr-optimized-cryptonight-miner-for-rx-vega/

Good luck with your setup and I look forward to the video on them! By the way you should get CryptoChick in more videos as well as Tails, we like to see the VoskCoin family together

[Juggar]

how many have you gotten working together stable on one rig?

To get them VEGAs stable you need to do some scripting. My VEGAs run at full speed for a few hours then suddenly they just stop. No errors or hang, they just simply stop mining using Cast XMR or XMR-STAK. Either use the "JJ restart script" you can find on reddit/google or write your own script. I initially tried the devcon.exe and and JJ restart script but found it doesn't work for me. I just wrote a script that reboots my computer every hour. 2 lines of code did it and my VEGA rig is now running stable.

The 2 lines of code were:

Code:

Sleep(360000)
Shutdown("restart")

That goes back to unreasonable amount of time spent to make a broken shit product work.....

Cancer.

Glad I decided NOT to buy that garbage.