Wall socket question

[hax0red]

I have a hot water heater that is off all but 15-20 minutes a day and would like to use the outlet for my Lepa 1600. I havent tested if its 220v and I know nothing about this sort of thing oddly, but my question is 110v or 220v, can I plug into this type of outlet if it's 220v with a US style Lepa PSU? I'm in the USA btw. This my hot water socket:

https://www.dropbox.com/s/2ymq52mjve78kbq/20130811_032633-1.jpg


I realize it could probably use a new socket but since I live in an apartment I dare not attempt changing it without being able to kill the main. Assuming there is no issue plugging my power supply into it, should I go with a plug adapter or can I purchase a cable to fit?


 Thanks!

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[cp1]

http://www.lepatek.com/eng/product_content/1/1/20/ says G1600-MA is 100-264 V, so if that's your model you could plug it into anything in your house.  It should have a sticker on the back with the voltage range.

[hax0red]

http://www.lepatek.com/eng/product_content/1/1/20/ says G1600-MA is 100-264 V, so if that's your model you could plug it into anything in your house.  It should have a sticker on the back with the voltage range.

 Thanks that answers compatibility question if turns out to be a 220v socket. I had also seen the range of voltage listed when I ordered them but dared not assume when it comes to global products since they may differ region to region yet the webmaster/instruction producers might assume it was a standard for all with no mods involved. I know water pumps for wells can run off of 110 or 220 but require internal wiring changes to do so.  

I need a new 9v for my volt meter so I wont have the voltage till tomorrow. Anybody familiar with this outlet type? I have found it on a few pages but nothing with information yet on the name of the plug type.

[vapourminer]

its 220 volt, 20 amp.

google NEMA 6-20R

you could buy a NEMA 6-20P plug at a hardware store and just cut the end of the power supply cord and put it on. ONLY if you are SURE youll do it correctly of course. no sense dying over it..

where are you? Ive never hear of a whole house hot water heater with a plug. all that Ive seen (hundreds in my prev job in construction) were hard wired 220 volt.

[hax0red]

its 220 volt, 20 amp.

google NEMA 6-20R

you could buy a NEMA 6-20P plug at a hardware store and just cut the end of the power supply cord and put it on. ONLY if you are SURE youll do it correctly of course. no sense dying over it..

where are you? Ive never hear of a whole house hot water heater with a plug. all that Ive seen (hundreds in my prev job in construction) were hard wired 220 volt.

 Thanks that's exactly the information I needed. I'm currently in Florida living in a 3 bedroom apartment but before this I had only seen this type of plug in my grand parents trailer years ago. I'm used to soldering ect but have no idea how legs ect work with home power wiring. I i'm surprised this isn't a common question on here with power cords from china on the cheap all over the net lol. I love the idea of 220v since the current will drop allowing me to go back to 6 GPU's(had problems with breaker before not PSU) and profits will increase slightly which is good since it's been pretty grim lately.


 I would really like to find a cable I don't have to butcher since this one looks euro/specific in case I move forcing me back to 120v or ever sell these power supplies. The closest I have found is here:

http://www.amazon.com/Stanley-31626-Appliance-Grounded-Extension/dp/B003OQVGNW/ref=pd_sim_hi_6

 If the earth/ground(rounded prong at bottom) was flat like the top two and parallel like them it would probably fit right into the back of my PSU enabling the 6-20P without mods...if I find something I'll link but either way will keep the thread updated for others who may go my route.

[DeathAndTaxes]

Don't cut and splice cables.  If your PSU is a standard ATX PSU then it has a C14 receptacle and the plug on the PSU end us is a C13 (C13 plug in C14 receptacle).  The outlet pictured is a NEMA 6-20R so you need a NEMA 6-20P plug on the outlet end.  Put it together and you need a cable with a NEMA 6-20P on one end and a C13 on the other end.



http://rackmountpdu.com/Category/108-6-20p-to-c13-power-cables.aspx

NEMA 6-20P is 230V @ 20A max.  You can (assuming outlet and rest of house wire is up to code) safely pull 230V * 20A *0.80 derate = 3,680W.  

Note there are likely better/cheaper brands but that should get you started.  You want a NEMA 6-20P to C13 cable.  Of course this information is provided as is and assumes the house/outlet is wired properly and has been properly explained in thread.

[hax0red]

Don't cut and splice cables.  If your PSU is a standard ATX PSU then it has a C14 receptacle and the plug that you connect on the PSU end us a C13 (C13 plug in C13 receptacle).  The outlet is a NEMA 6-20R so you need a NEMA 6-20P plug on the outlet end.

Put it together and you need a cable with a NEMA 6-20P on one end and a C13 on the other end.



http://rackmountpdu.com/Category/108-6-20p-to-c13-power-cables.aspx

All PSU cables uses a C13 to "something" plug.  The "something" depends on what you are plugging it into.  In the US they normally ship with a NEMA 5-15 end because that is the "standard outlet".

NEMA 6-20P is 230V @ 20A max.  Continual load (like miner running 24/7) should be derated 20% so 16A continual.  You can (assuming outlet and rest of house wire is up to code) safely pull 230 * 16 = 3,680W.  If you are crazy like me you run two 30A lines ending in NEMA L6-30R outlets.  (Similar but 30A ea and locking) and then connect a PDU to pull up to 11KW of load. The outlet in the photo looks pretty corroded and if it were me I would replace it.

Note there are likely better/cheaper brands but you want a NEMA 6-20P to C13 cable.  Of course this information is provided as is and assumes the house/outlet is wired properly and has been properly explained in thread.

 Thanks, I agree on not cutting yet but I will break down and cut it or a replacement version if it comes down to it. As for the cable, all of my other power supplies use the C13 but after searching for awhile I managed to find it's a C19 on the Lepa G1600-MA as shown here:




I'm not sure I follow exactly on the setup you are running but it sounds awesome and similar to what I had plans to try next if the amp draw lived up to my expectations shown on paper. Any pics of your power setup? Would love to take a look if you get a chance


 Appreciate the input, Thanks again!

[hax0red]

Once I knew the connector type for the Lepa PSU and the hot water heater socket type it was extremely easy to find cables to suit my needs and at a fair prices too! cant beat 6 feet and 12 guage for 10 bucks IMO:

http://www.sfcable.com/SF-1618-06B.html?utm_medium=shoppingengine&utm_source=googlebase&cvsfa=3023&cvsfe=2&cvsfhu=53462d313631382d303642&gclid=CK-cq_GH97gCFSho7AodrHwARA

[DeathAndTaxes]

Once I knew the connector type for the Lepa PSU and the hot water heater socket type it was extremely easy to find cables to suit my needs and at a fair prices too! cant beat 6 feet and 12 guage for 10 bucks IMO:

http://www.sfcable.com/SF-1618-06B.html?utm_medium=shoppingengine&utm_source=googlebase&cvsfa=3023&cvsfe=2&cvsfhu=53462d313631382d303642&gclid=CK-cq_GH97gCFSho7AodrHwARA

Yeah that is what you need.

I had never seen a PSU which uses C19/C20 connector.  Looks like C13/C14 is only good for 10A and C19/C20 is good for 16A but otherwise they are the same.

[DeathAndTaxes]

I'm not sure I follow exactly on the setup you are running but it sounds awesome and similar to what I had plans to try next if the amp draw lived up to my expectations shown on paper. Any pics of your power setup? Would love to take a look if you get a chance

I had a thread a while back with some photos not sure if I can still find a link.

Essentially NEMA 6-30 is just a 30A version of the plug you have. They make a locking connector version (L6-30A) which you insert and turn to lock.  Nice so a cable pulling 30 amps doesn't get knocked loose.

If you ever need a lot of power the cheapest (and safest) setup is
1) put in a new 30A breaker in breaker panel
2) run a line to a new L6-30A outlet  http://imageserver.grainger.com/is/image/Grainger/1PKK1_AS01?$productdetail$
3) Grab an AP9571 made by APC.  It is a PDU (power distribution unit) which is a fancy name for rack mounted expensive power strip.

Any PDU will work but the nice thing is APC made like a quadrillion of these in the last 20 years so used ones are always available on ebay for like $30 to $50. 
http://www.ebay.com/itm/APC-AP9571-Rackmount-PDU-12-port-Power-Strip-208V-24A-/231025800012?pt=US_Power_Distribution_Units&hash=item35ca35f34c

You will notice the plug on the end is NEMA L6-30P.  The cable is like a firehouse.  Never cut one open but it has been to 8 gauge are larger cable and surrounded by good 1/4" of insulation.  230V * 30A * 80% = 5.5 KW and it comes with 12 C13 outlets.  You can run a whole ASIC farm off one or two of these, although it wouldn't work with that 1600W PSU.

[southerngentuk]

If your a tenant I would ask your landlord to get a sparky to change that, water heaters use a lot of power to be on a plug (although alot are) and that look near the end of is day..
Slip the sparky $20 whilst he's there to put in a double.

[hax0red]

If your a tenant I would ask your landlord to get a sparky to change that, water heaters use a lot of power to be on a plug (although alot are) and that look near the end of is day..
Slip the sparky $20 whilst he's there to put in a double.

 Yeah our sparky's aren't too bright and barely speak English so I have tried to stay away from dealing with them or letting them see what I have done with the sockets and the spare bedroom although I plan to redo this whole setup soon enough.

I was getting ready to order when I realized I will need an adapter for my extension cable or maybe rethink the entire setup. Can I plug my lepa's standard C19 to 5-15P cable into a drop cord then have the drop cord plug into a 5-15R to 6-20P adapter? or can I rig something similar? I'm thinking the power plugs may be on opposite sides and I know there is an amp disadvantage but I expect I will be under 10 amps easily with the efficiency increase?

[DeathAndTaxes]

Nobody makes a NEMA 5 to NEMA 6 adapter because one is designed for 115V and the other for 230V.  Good way to blow things up.

[hax0red]

Good way to blow things up.

 Hence the reason I was asking. Had hopes someone would reply with useful info in time to order but I'll research all options tonight.


 Thanks