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Sounds good but is this legit??does anyone have already played and win?? There are lot's of gambling site that adopts native game into online games, some made betting such as basketball and volleyball while others are betting high or low and now its rock-paper-scissors, it seems were really going into digital currency and everything even sort of childhood game will be improved. I hope this will continue to help improve digital economy
Since launching, so far, no one has played.
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January 16, 2018, 08:28:47 AM |
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wow 190% ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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January 16, 2018, 08:31:55 AM |
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Sounds good but is this legit??does anyone have already played and win?? There are lot's of gambling site that adopts native game into online games, some made betting such as basketball and volleyball while others are betting high or low and now its rock-paper-scissors, it seems were really going into digital currency and everything even sort of childhood game will be improved. I hope this will continue to help improve digital economy
Since launching, so far, no one has played. I'm pretty sure you know the reasons why one one has played your game so far. What will you do then? Wait till someone play without doing some changes on the site especially about its minimum bet and provably fairness. If you ignore about it, you will have no players ever.
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bitcoins.game (OP)
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January 16, 2018, 09:38:49 AM |
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Sounds good but is this legit??does anyone have already played and win?? There are lot's of gambling site that adopts native game into online games, some made betting such as basketball and volleyball while others are betting high or low and now its rock-paper-scissors, it seems were really going into digital currency and everything even sort of childhood game will be improved. I hope this will continue to help improve digital economy
Since launching, so far, no one has played. I'm pretty sure you know the reasons why one one has played your game so far. What will you do then? Wait till someone play without doing some changes on the site especially about its minimum bet and provably fairness. If you ignore about it, you will have no players ever. Added the first bet 0.01, play with me. My rate is fixed on pastebin, though in manual mode but still provable with the timestamp.
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January 16, 2018, 10:16:55 AM |
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another PVP game without absolute proof that it is provably fair also 10% fee is a bit of too much,don't you think? but the main concern is how do I know that the game is not rigged for example,if I bet 0.01 bitcoins there is no garantee that my opponent is not a server side script that knows the result beforehand if my sclerosis doesn't decieve me,there were several attempts to make a similar game work,none of them were successful
Oh well. The winner receives 190% of the bet amount. Rules changed. As for the proof of work only as PVP game ... This is difficult to implement. But we will try. 1.When system move the bid to FIFO or LIFO list, system publish pair in the form of an address and a symbol of the bid at site pastebin.com, where the date and time publication fixed as timestamp for subsequent verification. The link is available only after the end of the game and is available in the "COMPLETED GAMES". But this will only help to prove that the first bet will not be made after the second player's bid by the script. 2.Suggest please how can we still prove that opponent is not a server side script. p.s. The account type for pastebin was changed to Pro, but the post-limit was not deleted for the received api_dev_key. And it does not work yet, but already implemented. For an example look at the first address https://bitcoins.game/address/18mDHFrLv32m2Fx3pTgULSM51M849GYxuT in the section "COMPLETED GAMES". The PVP is not that hard to implent a provably fair system. Basically you give each player a hashed seed and after the game you let the players be able to view the unhashed seed for both of them. The larger issue with this is the large house edge you have. Normally a house edge this large is generally used for Binary option type of bets. Even slots in a real casino don't have a house edge this large. I Am guessing when you become larger and more visitors, you will probably lower the house edge then.
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January 16, 2018, 11:37:07 AM |
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another PVP game without absolute proof that it is provably fair also 10% fee is a bit of too much,don't you think? but the main concern is how do I know that the game is not rigged for example,if I bet 0.01 bitcoins there is no garantee that my opponent is not a server side script that knows the result beforehand if my sclerosis doesn't decieve me,there were several attempts to make a similar game work,none of them were successful
Oh well. The winner receives 190% of the bet amount. Rules changed. As for the proof of work only as PVP game ... This is difficult to implement. But we will try. 1.When system move the bid to FIFO or LIFO list, system publish pair in the form of an address and a symbol of the bid at site pastebin.com, where the date and time publication fixed as timestamp for subsequent verification. The link is available only after the end of the game and is available in the "COMPLETED GAMES". But this will only help to prove that the first bet will not be made after the second player's bid by the script. 2.Suggest please how can we still prove that opponent is not a server side script. p.s. The account type for pastebin was changed to Pro, but the post-limit was not deleted for the received api_dev_key. And it does not work yet, but already implemented. For an example look at the first address https://bitcoins.game/address/18mDHFrLv32m2Fx3pTgULSM51M849GYxuT in the section "COMPLETED GAMES". The PVP is not that hard to implent a provably fair system. Basically you give each player a hashed seed and after the game you let the players be able to view the unhashed seed for both of them.
The larger issue with this is the large house edge you have. Normally a house edge this large is generally used for Binary option type of bets. Even slots in a real casino don't have a house edge this large. I Am guessing when you become larger and more visitors, you will probably lower the house edge then. Where the guarantee that the opponent is a real player, and the algorithm takes into account the bet symbol during generation and the hash-seed can be easily faked. Who will check it, even if it is provided to both players. They just compare it? And who verified hash? Server script? It is - user deception tool.
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January 16, 2018, 05:13:13 PM |
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Yes only by algorithm, one versus against another player. Only 10% from payoff. Thanks!
I don't really understand what you want to say with only 10% from payoff, but even a house edge of 10 % is way too high. Anyway, the site has a nice design, but the minimum to bet is 0.01 BTC which is quite a lot. Ppersonally, this minimum bet size, is too much. Yeah, 10% is probably the highest house edge I've ever seen! And 0.01 is absolutely crazy for a minimum, I think it should be something like 10-50 times less than that! And something like new users' welcoming bonus would be appreciated. Or, at least, 'play for fun' mode, so that one could test luck and see how the gaming process goes. Come one, paying $120 for one try on a fully unknown website is definitely not something anyone would do. And is this website provably fair? I don't see anything that would allow to check that.
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January 17, 2018, 04:29:03 PM |
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none will play the game with such a high minimal bet just saying,even with bitcoin price tanking to below 10.000$ who in his right mind would splash 100$ on an unknown game that exactly 0 people are playing as for the provably fair for PVP you should search the forum for the topics like: "first provably fair pvp game" yeah there were at least several "first" ones, or "PVP game" etc. and see how did the owner try to implement it
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January 17, 2018, 07:29:41 PM |
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Yes only by algorithm, one versus against another player. Only 10% from payoff. Thanks!
I don't really understand what you want to say with only 10% from payoff, but even a house edge of 10 % is way too high. Anyway, the site has a nice design, but the minimum to bet is 0.01 BTC which is quite a lot. Ppersonally, this minimum bet size, is too much. Just having an assumption which that payoff that he mean would definitely be on House edge which he said its only insanely high compared into other houses.0.01 is way too high and should really be lowered because not all people do really love to play on high stakes game and also on sites theme color it hurts my eyes. I dont know on others but i dont really like it.
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January 29, 2018, 01:01:25 PM |
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I hope this is a real bet, not only your own bet to get attention from us. In case it is a real bet, it is not an impressive thing. 20 days with one bet only, are you happy with it? No plans to get more players by reducing the min bet? I wonder why you keep the 10mbtc as the minimum bet while there are some people do not like it. Probably you should add some altcoins with small min bet, also it will attract more players as well because alts has lower transaction fees.
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January 29, 2018, 10:08:30 PM |
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I hope this is a real bet, not only your own bet to get attention from us. In case it is a real bet, it is not an impressive thing. 20 days with one bet only, are you happy with it? No plans to get more players by reducing the min bet? I wonder why you keep the 10mbtc as the minimum bet while there are some people do not like it. Probably you should add some altcoins with small min bet, also it will attract more players as well because alts has lower transaction fees. Yes, this is a real victory, a real player! We very glad that at least someone believed that the game is not fraud, and he received a reward for that. Nothing else matters ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif)
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January 30, 2018, 05:37:56 PM |
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I hope this is a real bet, not only your own bet to get attention from us. In case it is a real bet, it is not an impressive thing. 20 days with one bet only, are you happy with it? No plans to get more players by reducing the min bet? I wonder why you keep the 10mbtc as the minimum bet while there are some people do not like it. Probably you should add some altcoins with small min bet, also it will attract more players as well because alts has lower transaction fees. Yes, this is a real victory, a real player! We very glad that at least someone believed that the game is not fraud, and he received a reward for that. Nothing else matters ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) wow,glad to see that after gruesome weeks of waiting someone has tried the site it makes me all warm and fuzzy inside to think I may have contributed to it,too (by posting in the topic,not playing of course) I think you should take the criticism and make changes to the min bet or you risk to be waiting for the second real customer for another 20 days or so
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February 11, 2018, 05:26:19 PM |
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We are very sorry, our project was not interesting. The project is closed, payments are not accepted. ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif)
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