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August 11, 2013, 05:28:06 PM
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Recieved the funds, thanks.

You should include the steps you did to get the game seed into the "i" alert. The information I get right now is useless if I don't know how you use it.

This doesn't look good btw:

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August 11, 2013, 05:47:43 PM
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1. Next server seed hash is now showing.
2. You can now specify custom wager.
3. Rolls history now updates immediately.

I will move the site to another server within few hours, but the site will keep running. Thank you very much for feedback.
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August 11, 2013, 05:51:16 PM
Last edit: August 11, 2013, 06:04:08 PM by dice64
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1. Next server seed hash is now showing.
2. You can now specify custom wager.
3. Rolls history now updates immediately.

I will move the site to another server within few hours, but the site will keep running. Thank you very much for feedback.

What hash method do you use and how can you prove to the player that you dont change it after the bet has been placed?

Also can you provide your calculations on how you came to the assumption that you have a 0.8% house edge?

1-((2+1.4+1.2+1.1+0.25)/6) = 0.00833333
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August 11, 2013, 06:11:03 PM
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Dice64,
Look at the long text above "Roll" etc buttons. For me this is:
79ede5fd0267edccc5f2faa965ec689625cae8ab209bc764b608e9a2613fbc94
This is SHA256 hash of server seed, which will be used for next roll.
The roll result for me was 5.
Make a roll. Click "i" button to view details about roll you just did:
Server seed: 151d74125854c103abadc770f4eb5e99                        
Client seed: 8617075205573747000

hash("sha256", "151d74125854c103abadc770f4eb5e99") === 79ede5fd0267edccc5f2faa965ec689625cae8ab209bc764b608e9a2613fbc94

So for now everything is OK.

Now we use the validation script:

<?php
$server_seed = "151d74125854c103abadc770f4eb5e99";
$client_seed = "8617075205573747000";

function str2int($str) {
   $int = 0;
   foreach (str_split($str) as $char)
      $int += $char;
   return $int;
}

mt_srand(str2int($server_seed . $client_seed));
$roll = mt_rand(1, 6);
echo "Roll result is " . $roll;

Just run this on your web server or PHP CLI. It should print:
Roll result is 5

It confirms that my site is provably fair.

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Also can you provide your calculations on how you came to the assumption that you have a 0.8% house edge?

(6-(2+1.4+1.2+1.1+0.25))*(100/6)  Wink
               
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August 11, 2013, 06:17:27 PM
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The secret_hash wasn't present before when I posted, neither was the hash method present in the screenshot bitcoininformation posted.

But you can't prove that you don't change the secret behind the scenes, or change the client seed

Also your house edge comes out at 0.8333333%, not 0.8%.

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August 11, 2013, 06:19:50 PM
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Dice64,
Look at the long text above "Roll" etc buttons. For me this is:
79ede5fd0267edccc5f2faa965ec689625cae8ab209bc764b608e9a2613fbc94
This is SHA256 hash of server seed, which will be used for next roll.
The roll result for me was 5.
Make a roll. Click "i" button to view details about roll you just did:
Server seed: 151d74125854c103abadc770f4eb5e99                        
Client seed: 8617075205573747000

hash("sha256", "151d74125854c103abadc770f4eb5e99") === 79ede5fd0267edccc5f2faa965ec689625cae8ab209bc764b608e9a2613fbc94

So for now everything is OK.

Now we use the validation script:

<?php
$server_seed = "151d74125854c103abadc770f4eb5e99";
$client_seed = "8617075205573747000";

function str2int($str) {
   $int = 0;
   foreach (str_split($str) as $char)
      $int += $char;
   return $int;
}

mt_srand(str2int($server_seed . $client_seed));
$roll = mt_rand(1, 6);
echo "Roll result is " . $roll;


Thats what I mean, nobody knows that you should do it like that. That's why I suggested you to change the alert ;p

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Also your house edge comes out at 0.8333333%, not 0.8%.
Good enough for me.

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August 11, 2013, 06:22:31 PM
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Good enough for me.


Good enough for me too, I'm dropping to 0.8
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August 11, 2013, 06:29:05 PM
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0,8(3)% is not big different from 0,8%. However it is not the problem for me to change it to match exacly 0,8%, if someone will want. Who want?  Smiley
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But you can't prove that you don't change the secret behind the scenes, or change the client seed
It is hard to find another server seed that will output the same SHA256 hash. If I will change client seed, the outcome will not validate using the script.

Edit: vlees, account funded. Good luck.
Edit: jacktarli, account funded. Good luck  Smiley
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August 11, 2013, 06:32:27 PM
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0,8(3)% is not big different from 0,8%. However it is not the problem for me to change it to match exacly 0,8%, if someone will want. Who want?  Smiley
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But you can't prove that you don't change the secret behind the scenes, or change the client seed
It is hard to find another server seed that will output the same SHA256 hash. If I will change client seed, the outcome will not validate using the script.

Edit: vlees, account funded. Good luck.

No but the user has no proof if you do change it, you can provide the sha256(a) to the user, but use the secret b to do the actual calculation and the user has no way of proving it.
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August 11, 2013, 06:48:26 PM
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0,8(3)% is not big different from 0,8%. However it is not the problem for me to change it to match exacly 0,8%, if someone will want. Who want?  Smiley
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But you can't prove that you don't change the secret behind the scenes, or change the client seed
It is hard to find another server seed that will output the same SHA256 hash. If I will change client seed, the outcome will not validate using the script.

Edit: vlees, account funded. Good luck.

No but the user has no proof if you do change it, you can provide the sha256(a) to the user, but use the secret b to do the actual calculation and the user has no way of proving it.
Thats what I meant. The alert should show every step.

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August 11, 2013, 07:02:29 PM
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My dice changed from 4 back to 3... Dunno if that is on purpose or just slow connection, but I wanted to say that.

It happend again from 3 to 6. So I guess it's a slow connection.

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The server just doesn't send the roll result before the dice appeared again. I will make the animation a little bit longer.
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Edit: vlees, account funded. Good luck.

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August 11, 2013, 07:13:26 PM
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The server just doesn't send the roll result before the dice appeared again. I will make the animation a little bit longer.
Already thought so. Well I like your dice game.

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August 11, 2013, 07:26:58 PM
Last edit: August 13, 2013, 10:36:31 PM by vlees
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I clicked payout, it told me it should arrive shortly, but nothing happened.
My balance on FairDice.biz is still the same old value and no transaction was broadcasted.

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August 11, 2013, 07:30:39 PM
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I see what happened. Please be patient. As far I can see, my site detected deposit from you but do not received it. Please give me some time to fix that. Your money will be send soon.
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August 11, 2013, 07:31:34 PM
Last edit: August 13, 2013, 10:36:38 PM by vlees
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I see what happened. Please be patient. As far I can see, my site detected deposit from you but do not received it. Please give me some time to fix that. Your money will be send soon.

Thanks for the fast reply. Will wait then.

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August 11, 2013, 07:39:22 PM
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