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August 13, 2013, 06:23:57 PM |
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That's an interesting read, however it seems a little outdated. Erowid is useful, however keep in mind that anyone can share their experience. His opinion may seem more educated, but I could publish something on there just as easily. However, I am starting to somewhat change my views on marijuana. I would never call it a "hallucinogen", as its main effect is not hallucinating. I'd say depending on the strain it's a stimulant or depressant. However I don't think it could be defined as any one classification in particular.
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August 13, 2013, 06:28:23 PM |
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I am unaware of any newer or better findings on hallucenogens than Dr. Shultes. Under the heading "Old World Hallucinogens" MARIHUANA, HASHEESH, or HEMP (species of the genus Cannabis), also called Kif, Bhang, or Charas, is one of the oldest cultivated plants. It is also one of the most widely spread weeds, having escaped cultivation, appearing as an adventitious plant everywhere, except in the polar regions and the wet, forested tropics. Cannabis is the source of hemp fiber, an edible fruit, an industrial oil, a medicine, and a narcotic. Despite its great age and its economic importance, the plant is still poorly understood, characterized more by what we do not know about it than by what we know. Cannabis is a rank, weedy annual that is extremely variable and may attain a height of 18 feet. Flourishing best in disturbed, nitrogen-rich soils near human habitations, it has been called a "camp follower," going with man into new areas. It is normally dioecious--that is, the male and female parts are on different plants. The male or staminate plant is usually weaker than the female or pistillate plant. Pistillate flowers grow in the leaf axils. The intoxicating constituents are normally concentrated in a resin in the developing female flowers and adjacent leaves and stems. http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/golden_guide/g21-30.shtml![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.erowid.org%2Flibrary%2Fbooks_online%2Fgolden_guide%2Fimages%2Fg012013.jpg&t=665&c=YAPQAToYBkU2Gg) http://www.erowid.org/library/books_online/golden_guide/g11-20.shtml
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August 13, 2013, 06:41:35 PM |
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I am unaware of any newer or better findings on hallucenogens than Dr. Shultes.
I looked through that (skimmed it, mind you), and could not find any references to modern cannabis forms, such as wax. It also seems like he focuses on natural strains, whereas pretty much any strain you find on the street (or in OPs case, SR) will be some form of weed bred in a lab for maximum potency. He also says that Cannabis doesn't grow in polar regions or wet forested tropics but that's just not true.
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August 13, 2013, 10:26:35 PM |
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Are we going to discuss loan or are we discussing about how bad/good marijuana is? I am confused
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August 13, 2013, 10:28:17 PM |
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what happened to old bitcoin forum? remember when nice rich men on here gave away bitcoins to a person who only said "i want this, pay back by this day" i miss those nice rich men, they die?
are you all in debt?
Obviously a past scammer. I'm from the school of thought, "Once a scammer, always a scammer"
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August 13, 2013, 10:29:03 PM |
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Oh, well let me show you the light. We are talking about the merits of cannabis because nobody here is going to loan you $50 to buy an eighth of overpriced weed.
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August 13, 2013, 10:30:37 PM |
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Are we going to discuss loan or are we discussing about how bad/good marijuana is? I am confused
I recommend the "Kali Mist" from vendor Anywherebutnorcal(100) gonna run you more like 1.1 btc tho. As for the rich old men, they got tired of getting "Joey'd". Regardless, I don't loan for consumables. Sry
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August 13, 2013, 10:39:00 PM |
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Then why not making a topic in "Off topic" about the 'merits' of weed instead of posting in here, i came asking for a loan and for it to be payed back by me as well. Not for a discussion, every time i see a new reply on my topic it's not about my loan. I get excited for nothing. It's depressing.
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August 13, 2013, 10:41:55 PM |
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Then why not making a topic in "Off topic" about the 'merits' of weed instead of posting in here, i came asking for a loan and for it to be payed back by me as well. Not for a discussion, every time i see a new reply on my topic it's not about my loan. I get excited for nothing. It's depressing.
You need another taxi, Joey?
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August 13, 2013, 10:46:42 PM |
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i am sick and tired of hearing about this fat ass called joey, he ruined this forum. Might as well just close this lending forum down because nobody trusts anybody anymore. Whenever someone asks for a loan they're called "oh probably another joey alternate account"
that is so fucked up
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August 13, 2013, 10:47:53 PM |
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i am sick and tired of hearing about this fat ass called joey, he ruined this forum. Might as well just close this lending forum down because nobody trusts anybody anymore. Whenever someone asks for a loan they're called "oh probably another joey alternate account"
that is so fucked up
Did you try coinlenders.com?
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August 13, 2013, 10:52:59 PM |
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i honestly dont know what that is
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August 13, 2013, 10:54:37 PM |
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August 13, 2013, 10:55:29 PM |
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Interesting. Was thinking about trying a CD too. Thanks for the link, going to digest now. Sorry for bumping your post again too, Joey.
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August 13, 2013, 11:04:27 PM Last edit: August 13, 2013, 11:17:41 PM by JonathanMyers |
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what? is there anything i can do to make you guys trust me? i could provide collateral.
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August 14, 2013, 12:14:50 AM |
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what? is there anything i can do to make you guys trust me? i could provide collateral.
What collateral do you have?
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August 14, 2013, 12:16:48 AM |
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You said the C word and Got Vod's attention! You might be getting high in 3-5 days after all.
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August 14, 2013, 12:17:59 AM |
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You said the C word and Got Vod's attention! You might be getting high in 3-5 days after all.
I'm always interested in loaning money if there is collateral. ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Most people don't have any though.
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August 14, 2013, 05:01:28 AM |
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hmm, what can i provide for online collateral?
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August 14, 2013, 07:04:52 AM |
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I think "hallucinogen" is really a misnomer. Anything can cause hallucinations if there's a lack of stimuli from outside or disconnect between the stimuli and consciousness.
Cannabis is a mild psychedelic and a mild CNS depressant. You can get "visuals" on cannabis but then you can get visuals just by sensory deprivation. The psychedelic activity is what causes the risk of panic attack when high (especially on inexperienced users); your senses are heightened and you're more alert towards your internal and external stimuli.
Cannabis is useful (sativa means "useful") for some things but in the end it's nothing otherworldly, it's just a plant, which has chemicals in it that tickle the human brain in a certain way. You can experience every single "drugged" state without drugs, with enough practice (although achieving e.g. a LSD-style "ego death" via meditation might take a lifetime of practicing). It's not the drugs that cause the effects, it's the human brain and nervous system at work.
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