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feel free to move but i don't think this belongs in the alt section as it applies to the market as a whole. i've been reading about kodak and its coin today http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42630136and it seems to me that this might be final straw ish for regulators. kodak have used crypto to cross infect their stock price and they're now doing an ico. i assume because it's kodak it'll be subject to some type of existing legislation but i'm wondering if this is gonna set off a domino effect or half dead companies using the crypto wave to revitalise themselves. i would guess that operations like the sec and others would remain hands off as long as crypto remained in its box, but now it isn't. if it's being used to boost stock prices and doing the usual ico trick of taking money and giving back a pointless piece of crap then they're not gonna sit back and let that happen. are we about to turn a corner where crypto enters big business or is shut out of it to the best of the authorities' ability?
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January 11, 2018, 01:50:19 PM |
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I suspect crypto will be banned as a whole in 90% of the modern world. We have greed and bs ICOs to thank for that.
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January 11, 2018, 02:54:45 PM |
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Kodak only managed to avoid bankruptcy by a miracle. And it seems that the company's business is going very badly, since it is going to do ICO.
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January 12, 2018, 09:47:26 AM |
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are we about to turn a corner where crypto enters big business or is shut out of it to the best of the authorities' ability?
Neither. It's just the phase where everybody is milking whatever it can from crypto. https://qz.com/1175701/putting-bitcoin-or-blockchain-in-a-company-name-is-sometimes-enough-for-a-pop-on-the-stock-market/For example, Bitcoin Services, formerly known as Tulip BioMed, saw its stock increase by as much as 42,500% last year. Hong Kong-based UBI Blockchain Internet—previously known as JA Energy—soared more than 20,000% before regulators halted buying and selling. Trading was temporarily suspended on Jan. 5 by the SEC (pdf), which said it had questions about the accuracy of the company’s regulatory filings and “unusual” market activity.
And you can check the list for more.... Basically we're experiencing a wave of publicity stunts aimed at driving shares up. Pumps and dumps, but no longer trolls on mintpal, but real companies on wall street. And now were getting closer to a real dotcom bubble. Everyone going nuts over crypt without a real business plan. What could go wrong?
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January 12, 2018, 10:44:06 AM |
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A New Dawn, I want to be positive here, let's accept that there are lot of shit coins and ICOs that popping up everyday without even a good roadmap on how their coin/token be usable. In this case, I think Kodak used the blockchain to fund their new business venture, Kodak has a name and they will never let that name be doomed because of a shit ICO, I am positive that they will take this seriously to change their image and their brand. If Kodak's ICO will succeed and continously stand on their ICO, I think Authorities may reconsider things about Cryptocurrency.
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January 12, 2018, 10:54:51 AM |
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I don't know what the goal of Kodak's 'coin' would be, but it surely makes my eyebrows do weird things...
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January 12, 2018, 01:00:03 PM |
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I am sure more companies, from large to medium, will do the same thing in a near future. Some will do with a strategy in mind while some will do with the purpose to increase their stock price only.
I don't know how this could end, it could be a popular crowdfunding solution where even the small startups will be able to use this as alternative finance, or if a lot of projects end with a dead shitcoin it could lead to bury the reputation of the ico's purpose and maybe the cryptocurrencies generally speaking, in the long run.
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January 12, 2018, 01:13:31 PM |
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The end for their executives maybe... https://www.marketwatch.com/story/kodak-stock-pulls-back-directors-disclose-acquisitions-prior-to-blockchain-rally-2018-01-11"On Jan. 8, the day before Kodak’s crypto announcement, no fewer than seven directors acquired derivative securities convertible to common stock, according to Form 4 filings with the Securities and Exchange Commission.
The securities are restricted stock units, or RSUs, which were granted under Kodak’s “2013 Omnibus Incentive Plan” (OIP) and vest on Jan. 8, 2019, except as otherwise provided in the award notice, and subject to continuous service as a member of the board of directors, according to the filings. Even with the timely acquisition, there’s no guarantee the RSU’s will be profitable when they are vested.
Some board members also sold derivative securities, convertible to common shares, on Jan. 9, the day the “blockchain” news was reported.
Kodak said the timing of the insider activity was a “coincidence.”
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January 12, 2018, 01:28:57 PM |
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Exactly.... a coincidence. Of course selling stocks just two days after showing a miner with a sticker on it with no actual business plan is indeed a mere coincidence. When you refer to the end of their executives... you mean as losing their positions? I am hoping for their heads (literally)!!!! And this is just the beginning if nobody takes measures. Forget the stocks, in two months we will have blockchain pretzels, bitmilk, satoshi sushi, block-cab, McCrypto...everybody will try to milk as much as they can from the hype as KFC just did it. The madness must be stopped!
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January 12, 2018, 02:50:52 PM |
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wow. this is some low stuff. if going 'blockchain' will be the quick fix of the future then that's gonna be squashed with extreme prejudice asap.
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January 12, 2018, 04:05:55 PM |
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Still no one knows if they are really going to create a cryptocurrency, and honestly, they do not need one, i mean, a bussiness of photo cameras is going to create a crypto? It makes no sense, maybe it will work to be a speculation coin, but nothing more than that.
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Still no one knows if they are really going to create a cryptocurrency, and honestly, they do not need one, i mean, a bussiness of photo cameras is going to create a crypto? It makes no sense, maybe it will work to be a speculation coin, but nothing more than that.
It was just a way to pump their stock. A lot of companies lately are claiming that "they are getting into crypto" and then they make a fancy press release about how they will innovate their business with an ICO. I've heard they want a token for photography or something, makes no sense to me. Looks like they are either doing it on purpose to pump their stock (which is working) and exit at a plus before closing, or they are clueless and think there is a case for all these tokens other than pumping them and dumping them for more bitcoin.
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January 12, 2018, 04:24:04 PM |
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It was just a way to pump their stock. A lot of companies lately are claiming that "they are getting into crypto" and then they make a fancy press release about how they will innovate their business with an ICO. I've heard they want a token for photography or something, makes no sense to me.
Looks like they are either doing it on purpose to pump their stock (which is working) and exit at a plus before closing, or they are clueless and think there is a case for all these tokens other than pumping them and dumping them for more bitcoin.
the thing is that a real company doing real business really could do something legitimate with crypto. almost all of the stuff swirling around coinmarketcap is put out by nobodies with no plans to do anything real. if an existing company identified a use for it and then started using it we might get rolling for real. i'm not convinced this is the real deal but it might happen soon.
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January 12, 2018, 04:27:39 PM |
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the thing is that a real company doing real business really could do something legitimate with crypto. almost all of the stuff swirling around coinmarketcap is put out by nobodies with no plans to do anything real.
if an existing company identified a use for it and then started using it we might get rolling for real. i'm not convinced this is the real deal but it might happen soon.
Bbut... but... when are these companies going to learn what a blockchain is actually good for?
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feel free to move but i don't think this belongs in the alt section as it applies to the market as a whole. i've been reading about kodak and its coin today http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42630136and it seems to me that this might be final straw ish for regulators. kodak have used crypto to cross infect their stock price and they're now doing an ico. i assume because it's kodak it'll be subject to some type of existing legislation but i'm wondering if this is gonna set off a domino effect or half dead companies using the crypto wave to revitalise themselves. i would guess that operations like the sec and others would remain hands off as long as crypto remained in its box, but now it isn't. if it's being used to boost stock prices and doing the usual ico trick of taking money and giving back a pointless piece of crap then they're not gonna sit back and let that happen. are we about to turn a corner where crypto enters big business or is shut out of it to the best of the authorities' ability? Kodakcoin is giving to open more doors for cryptocurrencies as this is the first coin that has attracted wide publication and many big personality in cryptocurrency world has make one statements or the other. I believe this is going to be a new era in cryptocurrency market as Kodak has a good name and it has been doing very well. I think this coin during ico will be all bought up and another great opportunities for cryptocurrencies investors.
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January 13, 2018, 07:39:01 PM |
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wow. this is some low stuff. if going 'blockchain' will be the quick fix of the future then that's gonna be squashed with extreme prejudice asap. We should blame banksters and economists for that, they all praise "blockchain technology" while they bash Bitcoin, so now we have a strong public opinion that blockchain is revolutionary new tech. They have tried to embrace, extend, extinguish cryptocurrencies, but instead have fueled the dotcom bubble 2.0. But Bitcoin should be fine, since the very same people have separated Bitcoin from blockchain in their comments, so investor won't automatically assume that they correlate, and when alts and blockchain companies will crash, they won't take Bitcoin with them.
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feel free to move but i don't think this belongs in the alt section as it applies to the market as a whole. i've been reading about kodak and its coin today http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-42630136and it seems to me that this might be final straw ish for regulators. kodak have used crypto to cross infect their stock price and they're now doing an ico. i assume because it's kodak it'll be subject to some type of existing legislation but i'm wondering if this is gonna set off a domino effect or half dead companies using the crypto wave to revitalise themselves. i would guess that operations like the sec and others would remain hands off as long as crypto remained in its box, but now it isn't. if it's being used to boost stock prices and doing the usual ico trick of taking money and giving back a pointless piece of crap then they're not gonna sit back and let that happen. are we about to turn a corner where crypto enters big business or is shut out of it to the best of the authorities' ability? No, I don't think so. Really, why would a profitable and successful company ever want to walk the ICO path? Are they short of money or what? Regarding Kodak in particular, it is a half-dead company as you say yourself. So they have nothing to lose. Anyway, they seem to be too late to the party now, and I highly doubt if their ICO would bring in serious money if any at all. They should have tried it a year or two ago.
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January 14, 2018, 07:20:43 AM |
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The beggining of the end, of course, but the end of them.
How the fuck are they going to create a coin? i still can not understand this, but how are they going to use it? No offense, but i do not know how are they going to implement it.
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They are going to tell their development team 'ok here is the requirement we already agreed on and now I want you to design and implement it, Go'
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