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August 17, 2013, 12:26:55 PM
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Three people ignoring you is more than you ignoring three people

Appears you and stbgefltc are the same person. Typical modus operandi of a troll playing politics. You've been added to ignore too.

lol, same person? haha, yeah, we're from the goverment who are after you. LOL, i actually know him and seen his code. But haven't seen anything of yours appart from pretty pages.






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August 17, 2013, 12:29:08 PM
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Yeah, we have identity problems. But oh wait, he can't read us anymore.

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August 17, 2013, 12:40:24 PM
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Brainfuck is code too. Everybody and his half-brother is jealous because everyone wants to make the next Bitcoin and get rich.

I can easily create demand for my new coin (if I complete it) without announcing it on this forum.

Don't forget I've had a million user social network (CoolPage.com). I know how to generate widescale adoption.

You are not in my league. I am here to discuss to make sure I get the design correct, share intellect with those who are worthy, and see if there is anyone talented who wants to work with me and get in on my action.

I don't need YOU.

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August 17, 2013, 12:43:31 PM
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After reading the links that Anonymint supplied, and seeing the discussion here. The group has decided to your input is no longer desirable, we cannot locate any code that would imply that his work is either original or helpful to this project. I was polite in the beginning, but while I slept the amount of hubris utilized in the follow up posts to reply to people who are helping instead of hindering this project was staggering. You do not want to hear people pontificating? That is quite a contradiction considering all the posts you have placed on this thread, and replying to yourself on just about all of them. Take this for what it is, a polite and nowhere near as rude reply asking you to simply go away. We do not want your help.
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August 17, 2013, 12:44:38 PM
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Neither do we need your arrogance... Wait, but then... did you really ignore us ?

You ought to ponder on another fact... I could be kalgecin.. I could also be digitalindustry... and who knows who ?

And of course we're not in your league, I told you already, we're too stupid.

PS. You surely do know how to generate wide-spread crap websites.

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August 17, 2013, 12:50:11 PM
Last edit: August 17, 2013, 01:02:04 PM by AnonyMint
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As I expected, he will not reveal his hash nor demonstrate any technical information. Thus I am leaving this thread, because you offer nothing. Another waste of my time.

What group? I only see you here, pretending to be a "group" with no evidence presented of your ability or your "group".  Roll Eyes

There was no hubris applied to those who asked me intelligent questions. They got polite and informed answers from me. Much more than any technical information you have offered so far.

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August 17, 2013, 12:51:06 PM
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Cool Pages thanks you for leaving.

http://carolandkids.tripod.com/Carol-and-Kids-Web-Page.html

Thank god you don't maintain that crap anymore.

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August 17, 2013, 01:07:43 PM
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Now that the troll spray was successfully deployed on Anonymint. Lets get back to a useful train of thought.

For real world use it looks like the only way we can integrate it is with a side hashing plugin. This will at least get the project some recognition and a simple method to add hashing to its network.

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August 17, 2013, 01:15:34 PM
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Hello all, I'm following this
thread and is see lot of arguing over nothing
lot of bla bla.
It seem that some people don't understand that technology by itself can't
save us form ourselves.

In my opinion there is no anonymity
like there is no democracy,
like there is no free market,
like there was never communism etc..

this all are man made inventions which never worked.

To be truly anonymous you should exclude yourself from society
live somewhere outlaw grow your own food produce your own electricity
not buying food in stores and use energy from distribution line
otherwise there is always a record somewhere of your existence.

If the government wants to find you they will find you actually if they want
they can put on a law on that everybody using bitcoin are terrorists and
that they are threat to national security and for that reason
should this people be all locked up in jail like guantanamo.

Then some of you will say but I would be able to use bitcoin (alt-coin) anonymously by using i2p tor
or other technology but I would say to you that they can also fake to be bitcoin or (crypto currercy) users
an put up false merchant pages false announcements false profile on forums and other pages
to catch people that uses cryptocoins like they do now to catch pedophiles or like
they catch prostitution clients on the streets by putting fake whores (female police officers)
and wait for people to hook up.

So bottom line technology can't resolve this issues that are mentioned here
instead only the "majority" can make the change by change I mean real political change.
As somebody mentioned "No Money Exists Without the Majority" i say
"No Change Exists Without the Majority" and to change all this things
the Majority should become aware of the the situation but currently as I see the Majority
doesn't care to much right now.

Cheers.

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August 17, 2013, 01:28:46 PM
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Brainfuck is code too. Everybody and his half-brother is jealous because everyone wants to make the next Bitcoin and get rich.

I can easily create demand for my new coin (if I complete it) without announcing it on this forum.

Don't forget I've had a million user social network (CoolPage.com). I know how to generate widescale adoption.

You are not in my league. I am here to discuss to make sure I get the design correct, share intellect with those who are worthy, and see if there is anyone talented who wants to work with me and get in on my action.

I don't need YOU.

this is straight i'm afraid out of the psychology of a damaged person Anony, the point of "Open source" is that, (you may learn , or alternatively fail too..)  open systems generate open innovation , there is another aspect , but i don't want to talk about it for you as per my "letting you stew in your genius" comment "up thread"   .

when you say "share intellect with those who are worthy" you are admitting failure or at least "non success" .

you just don't get it , and i don't doubt that you have talent for the things you aim to achieve , but you just don't get the point.

later I'm going to show you the point.

for now run off an redesign Communism from the top down.

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August 17, 2013, 01:41:17 PM
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For real world use it looks like the only way we can integrate it is with a side hashing plugin.

Notice how he does not address the technical challenge that I explained about this. Instead he offers no technical explanation at all and uses a phrase "side hashing" to give the impression that he said something technical.

This is a marketing thread.

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August 17, 2013, 01:47:50 PM
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Defeatist. Technology has provided all human progress. And asymmetric advances have altered the landscape throughout history.

In fact, we can be anonymous with technology. And we will need to be, because the current socialism is intent on surviving even though it is bankrupt.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/03/27/are-we-head-to-a-mad-max-scenario/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/05/08/the-mad-max-outcome/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/693-2/2012-2/where-do-empires-go-to-die-and-when-they-do-die-how-do-empires-die/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/08/05/how-empires-collapse-a-orderly-path-to-conclusion/

Hello all, I'm following this
thread and is see lot of arguing over nothing
lot of bla bla.
It seem that some people don't understand that technology by itself can't
save us form ourselves.

In my opinion there is no anonymity
like there is no democracy,
like there is no free market,
like there was never communism etc..

this all are man made inventions which never worked.

To be truly anonymous you should exclude yourself from society
live somewhere outlaw grow your own food produce your own electricity
not buying food in stores and use energy from distribution line
otherwise there is always a record somewhere of your existence.

If the government wants to find you they will find you actually if they want
they can put on a law on that everybody using bitcoin are terrorists and
that they are threat to national security and for that reason
should this people be all locked up in jail like guantanamo.

Then some of you will say but I would be able to use bitcoin (alt-coin) anonymously by using i2p tor
or other technology but I would say to you that they can also fake to be bitcoin or (crypto currercy) users
an put up false merchant pages false announcements false profile on forums and other pages
to catch people that uses cryptocoins like they do now to catch pedophiles or like
they catch prostitution clients on the streets by putting fake whores (female police officers)
and wait for people to hook up.

So bottom line technology can't resolve this issues that are mentioned here
instead only the "majority" can make the change by change I mean real political change.
As somebody mentioned "No Money Exists Without the Majority" i say
"No Change Exists Without the Majority" and to change all this things
the Majority should become aware of the the situation but currently as I see the Majority
doesn't care to much right now.

Cheers.


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August 17, 2013, 01:54:57 PM
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For real world use it looks like the only way we can integrate it is with a side hashing plugin.

Notice how he does not address the technical challenge that I explained about this. Instead he offers no technical explanation at all and uses a phrase "side hashing" to give the impression that he said something technical.

This is a marketing thread.

just to clear up your confusion Anony .

I stated back in the skinnable QT topic about the option to both "plug-in" and "theme" a QT , i was not , and did not specifically talk about core function in fact i said that would obviously exclude core function .

now, again this seem that you have confused things here , i have taken "side hashing" (oh i could be wrong oh great Anony) to basically mean the same thing , to spell that out for you..

The core meaningful hash function is achieved and written to the blockchain , then a possible other non-essential but also meaningful derivative is side hashed with it.

now a great mind like yours Anony would say "why use work to do something that is non-essential" and the answer is...wait for it...

because humans vary, and like different things and it could add intangible "value" to the currency.

clear ?

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having said that it may not either , I'm neutral on the matter,  i only referred to "plugins" to add features , not related to the hash.

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August 17, 2013, 01:56:52 PM
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Defeatist. Technology has provided all human progress. And asymmetric advances have altered the landscape throughout history.

In fact, we can be anonymous with technology. And we will need to be, because the current socialism is intent on surviving even though it is bankrupt.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/03/27/are-we-head-to-a-mad-max-scenario/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/05/08/the-mad-max-outcome/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/693-2/2012-2/where-do-empires-go-to-die-and-when-they-do-die-how-do-empires-die/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/08/05/how-empires-collapse-a-orderly-path-to-conclusion/

Hello all, I'm following this
thread and is see lot of arguing over nothing
lot of bla bla.
It seem that some people don't understand that technology by itself can't
save us form ourselves.

In my opinion there is no anonymity
like there is no democracy,
like there is no free market,
like there was never communism etc..

this all are man made inventions which never worked.

To be truly anonymous you should exclude yourself from society
live somewhere outlaw grow your own food produce your own electricity
not buying food in stores and use energy from distribution line
otherwise there is always a record somewhere of your existence.

If the government wants to find you they will find you actually if they want
they can put on a law on that everybody using bitcoin are terrorists and
that they are threat to national security and for that reason
should this people be all locked up in jail like guantanamo.

Then some of you will say but I would be able to use bitcoin (alt-coin) anonymously by using i2p tor
or other technology but I would say to you that they can also fake to be bitcoin or (crypto currercy) users
an put up false merchant pages false announcements false profile on forums and other pages
to catch people that uses cryptocoins like they do now to catch pedophiles or like
they catch prostitution clients on the streets by putting fake whores (female police officers)
and wait for people to hook up.

So bottom line technology can't resolve this issues that are mentioned here
instead only the "majority" can make the change by change I mean real political change.
As somebody mentioned "No Money Exists Without the Majority" i say
"No Change Exists Without the Majority" and to change all this things
the Majority should become aware of the the situation but currently as I see the Majority
doesn't care to much right now.

Cheers.


uh oh its started....

lets get back on topic here ,

ubercoin - sounds uber great , lets talk about it...

** Anonymint if you spam this topic with long winded economic theory i really will put you on ignore , i never ignore anyone i'll only do it to save space on the page, then when this is released i'll un-ignore you .

it will be only because you are literally spamming. 

** everyone who is anyone already knows the music has stopped , that's not new news Anony , its NOT NEW NEWS.

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August 17, 2013, 02:03:12 PM
Last edit: August 17, 2013, 02:35:10 PM by AnonyMint
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However, I just realized there is another problem which I think can't be overcome. PoW relies on the fact that no one can start working on the next hash, until the current hash computation is found by a miner, because the next hash relies on the solution to the current one.

The problem with user supplied work (e.g. matrices) is that someone will know in advance the work that needs to be done. And we can't use transactions to salt the entropy of the work, because the miner has control over which transactions to include.

Perhaps we can salt the computation of the SHA256 with the result of orthogonal work. In this way, we still have to wait for the hash of the prior block before starting any work on the next block, in spite of knowing the orthogonal work a priori. So that invalidates my quoted objection above.

My original point still applies about the work needs to be uniform form so it's uniform in difficulty. If we plugin different work of greatly varying difficulties, the difficulty changes with more volatility than the hashing power of the network does so it is impossible to converge the difficulty on the desired block rate.

To resolve which works comes next, first received is first served. The miner choses, since the choice gives him no advantage since difficulty of the work is uniform.

So maybe we can bring back the idea for solving matrices.

EDIT:

The problem remains that we can do the orthogonal work before the prior block completes, unless we can salt the orthogonal work by the hash. But if we salt the orthogonal work, then it isn't computing the work that was needed but then some random matrices.

So I think my objection is still valid. Unfortunately.

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August 17, 2013, 02:03:47 PM
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This Martin Armstrong ? http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Martin_A._Armstrong

PS. Weren't you supposed to take your genius intellect elsewhere ?

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August 17, 2013, 02:23:23 PM
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Not the Wikipedia lies, but truth:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/1113-2/

I hope they throw you in jail without a trial for 7 years on a bogus contempt charge:

http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/02/09/indefinite-detention/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/05/30/11910/

Quote from: Armstrong
So the New York Press will NEVER report the truth about the courts, the banks, or what Alan Cohen did no less the fact that all the evidence we gathered that would have put all the bankers in prison for life, magically disappeared in the collapse of the SEC Building that amazingly was not even hit by an plane in the 911 attack.

http://armstrongeconomics.com/693-2/2012-2/we-are-on-the-verge-of-a-very-profound-systemic-global-meltdown/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/07/12/so-who-really-tried-to-blackmail-yeltsin-takeover-russia-nsa-cia-or-investment-bankers/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/2013/08/12/whistle-blowers-use-to-be-american-patriots/
http://armstrongeconomics.com/693-2/2012-2/manipulating-the-world-economy-or-just-understanding-how-it-really-functions/

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August 17, 2013, 02:31:28 PM
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Politics have their own subforum. Please attempt to act as if you are an adult and do not have much time to waste (so you claim) and quit trolling and bringing up subjects that do not relate to development. Everyone's time is precious, please stop wasting ours with your "pontificating".
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August 17, 2013, 02:32:12 PM
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Oh noes ! It's a conspiracy !

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August 17, 2013, 02:38:24 PM
Last edit: August 17, 2013, 03:00:52 PM by AnonyMint
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Politics have their own subforum. Please attempt to act as if you are an adult and do not have much time to waste (so you claim) and quit trolling and bringing up subjects that do not relate to development. Everyone's time is precious, please stop wasting ours with your "pontificating".

I am replying to his citation of Wikipedia in his attempt to discredit Armstrong, who I brought up to enforce the importance of the anonymity feature. You asked for features and I assume also the ranking of priorities of features.

You are clearly playing a game to try to discredit, rather than offer any technical details. I'm guessing you are a fraud and have no technical abilities.

Note I edited my prior post about your "side hashing". Sorry it won't work! My technical objection remains valid.

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