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January 22, 2018, 12:34:15 PM |
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Just dealt for 10 usd wallet code +rep
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Cryptophobia (OP)
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January 22, 2018, 12:42:43 PM |
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I'm interested in your rate, I'm looking for crypto but don't really wanna overpay too much... I can buy you anything steam related...
I am sorry i just saw your reply pm me your skype for ratio please
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January 22, 2018, 03:01:46 PM |
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I might be able to supply you with skins of csgo, what rate do you offer?
and if possible send me your skype or any contact in PM, I can do escrow on localbitcoins if needed
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January 22, 2018, 09:31:22 PM |
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Send me pm about your stuff , or send your steam link for contacting you
I was hoping you would be able to just see my response to your thread so I could avoid having to repeat myself within a PM, however since I see you're replying to others while avoiding my item tells me that I haven't contacted you in the proper way; so I am attempting to play by your rules and I've sent you a PM with my Steam link to make contacting me as easy as I can possibly make it. Feel free to respond within this thread, which I will be watching and keeping up with (I do not mind negotiations being public). You can also reply to my PM or add me on Steam to discuss further; my knife is currently on OPSkins, so do not be alarmed if you do not see it in my inventory presently. I can get it back into my inventory if you would like proof of ownership, however OPSkins is also a sufficient escrow in my estimation. I'll be standing by, hoping you are ready to move further into this discussion; if you are not interested in my item specifically or if you are not interested in this kind of item then please make that known publicly to save myself and other users plenty of time, I won't mind if you aren't interested, but I would hate to continue waiting for a response when you have already given it all the thought you plan to.
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January 22, 2018, 09:54:24 PM |
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Send me pm about your stuff , or send your steam link for contacting you
I was hoping you would be able to just see my response to your thread so I could avoid having to repeat myself within a PM, however since I see you're replying to others while avoiding my item tells me that I haven't contacted you in the proper way; so I am attempting to play by your rules and I've sent you a PM with my Steam link to make contacting me as easy as I can possibly make it. Feel free to respond within this thread, which I will be watching and keeping up with (I do not mind negotiations being public). You can also reply to my PM or add me on Steam to discuss further; my knife is currently on OPSkins, so do not be alarmed if you do not see it in my inventory presently. I can get it back into my inventory if you would like proof of ownership, however OPSkins is also a sufficient escrow in my estimation. I'll be standing by, hoping you are ready to move further into this discussion; if you are not interested in my item specifically or if you are not interested in this kind of item then please make that known publicly to save myself and other users plenty of time, I won't mind if you aren't interested, but I would hate to continue waiting for a response when you have already given it all the thought you plan to. Sent a request on steam
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January 24, 2018, 05:35:00 PM |
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I might be able to supply you with skins of csgo, what rate do you offer? and if possible send me your skype or any contact in PM, I can do escrow on localbitcoins if needed ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif)
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Cryptophobia (OP)
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January 25, 2018, 05:04:38 PM |
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I might be able to supply you with skins of csgo, what rate do you offer? and if possible send me your skype or any contact in PM, I can do escrow on localbitcoins if needed ![Cheesy](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/cheesy.gif) Sorry no 3rd party sites only bitcointalk escrows Still looking for them
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January 26, 2018, 05:34:20 PM |
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Sent a request on steam
I'd like to say that while OP may not be a high-ranking member they are certainly not playing the same typical games or steam/bitcoin scammers. This user is extremely ready and willing to use escrow from this site, they are willing to use a trusted 3rd party (OPSkins) for the safe transfer of the item/goods. I had some tough negotiations with OP about my knife and while I don't feel like I'm getting the price I feel I deserve, I am considering trading it to OP because I need the money and I respect the hustle. Most people try to avoid escrow, steal your OPSkins API key or force you to send first under some strange circumstances. It seems that OP is genuinely trying to make an honest profit through negotiation and trade, which is extremely admirable and I would highly suggest anyone considering doing a deal to at least contact OP and see if you can come to an agreement. I'll be in touch with an Official escrow as soon as I get a few minutes to handle our deal. Thanks for being a stand-up user. Do not expect OP to pay you maximum price.
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January 26, 2018, 05:59:16 PM |
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Sent a request on steam
I'd like to say that while OP may not be a high-ranking member they are certainly not playing the same typical games or steam/bitcoin scammers. This user is extremely ready and willing to use escrow from this site, they are willing to use a trusted 3rd party (OPSkins) for the safe transfer of the item/goods. I had some tough negotiations with OP about my knife and while I don't feel like I'm getting the price I feel I deserve, I am considering trading it to OP because I need the money and I respect the hustle. Most people try to avoid escrow, steal your OPSkins API key or force you to send first under some strange circumstances. It seems that OP is genuinely trying to make an honest profit through negotiation and trade, which is extremely admirable and I would highly suggest anyone considering doing a deal to at least contact OP and see if you can come to an agreement. I'll be in touch with an Official escrow as soon as I get a few minutes to handle our deal. Thanks for being a stand-up user. Do not expect OP to pay you maximum price. You know your just giving +rep to a scammer. This is him: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1135704Do your own research on him. If you can't come to that conclusion, then your obviously blind, or just don't want to see it. They may "convince" you that they are trustworthy, and they may even do a honorable trade once or twice to try and build rep, but its still the same person. Why do I say this? Account created 2 days after I marked the scammer "WorknLearn" First trade done: With scammer "WorknLearn" for $75. This is when the user was at 1 activity. But they sent them $75 in ethereum up front with no escrow. SURE..LOL.. Same Thread Style: Both have the same thread with lots of similarities. View for yourself. I've done took my time to check them out. Each of their "Bump it up" is exactly the same. Capitolization, words, spacing, ect. What does this tell me? If you can't figure it out with what I've outlined, then your gonna get scammed. They are enough coincidental evidence to 100% convince me that they are the exact same person. So make your decision wisely. Or your gonna have another scam link to post. You've been WARNED
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bill gator
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January 26, 2018, 08:45:01 PM |
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You know your just giving +rep to a scammer. This is him: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1135704Do your own research on him. If you can't come to that conclusion, then your obviously blind, or just don't want to see it. Same Thread Style: Both have the same thread with lots of similarities. View for yourself. I've done took my time to check them out. Each of their "Bump it up" is exactly the same. Capitalization, words, spacing, ect. I just looked through both of their profiles, it seems to me that there is not enough information to conclude that they are the same person and you very well may be harming the reputation of a completely different person that had nothing to do with your deal. From what I can see their typing styles are different, their "Bump" posts are different, capitalization, words, etc. are ALL different. You are seeing what you want to see, because you are blinded by anger. From the scam thread you posted about the other guy, I'm not even positive you were scammed by him, let alone that user and OP being the same person. I have not given him +rep, I've given a review of the negotiations/process as I have experienced it so far. If you take the necessary precautions you will not be scammed, if you do not then there is a chance; I am not willing to take this chance, and therefore regardless of if they are the same person I will not be caught up by his scam. I protect myself and treat each deal as a separate instance. If you have further proof that they are the same person I would be willing to take a look and revise my statements, the same goes for the scam accusation. However, as I see it right now; OP has not acting in anyway that would be the warning signs of a scam. He insisted on Escrow, OPSkins and never even implied that he wanted me to send first or anything else that would put me at a security risk or put my items in jeopardy. Protect yourself as if everyone is a scammer and you won't have to worry about making those judgement calls or loose associations you are attempting to make.
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January 27, 2018, 04:27:44 AM |
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I can sell a few PUBG ingame items if you're still interested!
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January 27, 2018, 06:33:20 AM |
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I just looked through both of their profiles, it seems to me that there is not enough information to conclude that they are the same person and you very well may be harming the reputation of a completely different person that had nothing to do with your deal I'm not harming a innocent person. Its the same person. What your failing to realize is, they done the same thing with me, I just quit trying to find a escrow for such a low trade. I watched the trust, comments, activity of the account unwittingly so once I seen that this new thread popped up, just coincidently at the same time they did their in public transaction Thread Opened: January 14, 2018, 05:18:10 AM First Comment: 05:51:43 AM by https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1135704You have neg trust bro set a escrow from forum or you have to go first how much you have ? I sent the 50$ Steam code 15 min ago still no answer Now at that time the OP had a activity of less than 5 and commented in a matter to aid in the sell, benefit, +rep of the OP, was the first one to "Sell, Barter, Exchange" something with OP and then again commented in a manner that would try to convince other people that "No Escrow was Needed" Look through the history of posts and what do I find? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2243557.msg22656883#msg22656883Just a Turkish post thats been deleted. Heres a comment by the OP in the Turkish section of bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2805510.msg28810208#msg28810208Just so happens they both speak Turkish. Was the first one to comment on the new thread within 33 minutes. Made public a successful exchange without the need for escrow. From what I can see their typing styles are different, their "Bump" posts are different, capitalization, words, etc. are ALL different. You are seeing what you want to see, because you are blinded by anger. Now that I've taken the time to illustrate most for you to see. Do you not see my original point when I made the post. he may "convince" you that they are trustworthy, and they may even do a honorable trade once or twice to try and build rep, but its still the same person. You did get that right. Protect yourself as if everyone is a scammer and you won't have to worry about making those judgement calls or loose associations you are attempting to make.
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January 28, 2018, 07:57:24 AM |
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I just looked through both of their profiles, it seems to me that there is not enough information to conclude that they are the same person and you very well may be harming the reputation of a completely different person that had nothing to do with your deal I'm not harming a innocent person. Its the same person. What your failing to realize is, they done the same thing with me, I just quit trying to find a escrow for such a low trade. I watched the trust, comments, activity of the account unwittingly so once I seen that this new thread popped up, just coincidently at the same time they did their in public transaction Thread Opened: January 14, 2018, 05:18:10 AM First Comment: 05:51:43 AM by https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1135704You have neg trust bro set a escrow from forum or you have to go first how much you have ? I sent the 50$ Steam code 15 min ago still no answer Now at that time the OP had a activity of less than 5 and commented in a matter to aid in the sell, benefit, +rep of the OP, was the first one to "Sell, Barter, Exchange" something with OP and then again commented in a manner that would try to convince other people that "No Escrow was Needed" Look through the history of posts and what do I find? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2243557.msg22656883#msg22656883Just a Turkish post thats been deleted. Heres a comment by the OP in the Turkish section of bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2805510.msg28810208#msg28810208Just so happens they both speak Turkish. Was the first one to comment on the new thread within 33 minutes. Made public a successful exchange without the need for escrow. From what I can see their typing styles are different, their "Bump" posts are different, capitalization, words, etc. are ALL different. You are seeing what you want to see, because you are blinded by anger. Now that I've taken the time to illustrate most for you to see. Do you not see my original point when I made the post. he may "convince" you that they are trustworthy, and they may even do a honorable trade once or twice to try and build rep, but its still the same person. You did get that right. Protect yourself as if everyone is a scammer and you won't have to worry about making those judgement calls or loose associations you are attempting to make.
Bro i dont really want to waste time with you , escrow is okay everytime for me i can speak Turkish because my parents from Turkey they are immigrated to Germany so i can speak German too There is lots of user speaking turkish is that makes all of them guilty ? hell no
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January 28, 2018, 12:35:07 PM |
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Bro i dont really want to waste time with you , escrow is okay everytime for me
Scammer, do not deal with this user.They will tell you that escrow is ok, but they are lying; User explained to me that Lutpin is not a trustworthy Escrow and that they would attempt to contact their own escrow. Tried to change the terms we had already agreed on for days; the second I got an official escrow to agree to handle the trade safely, the price was suddenly unreasonable (even though it was what they offered me), I merely accepted their offer. Then they claim it's not worth it after they realize you won't do a deal with their sketchy escrow, accept their unsafe escrow terms, or accept a price they know will make you run away from the deal once it becomes too hard to scam. I agree with xBox, OPs trusts are sketchy, his actions scream "Scammer!", they do not hold their word, they lie and manipulate in an attempt to steal your items/codes. Do not deal with this user, I have forwarded this information to a few DT members and I'll be making a thread in Reputation to see if this kind of behavior can be exhumed.
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January 28, 2018, 02:32:21 PM Merited by bill gator (1) |
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Bro i dont really want to waste time with you , escrow is okay everytime for me
Scammer, do not deal with this user.They will tell you that escrow is ok, but they are lying; User explained to me that Lutpin is not a trustworthy Escrow and that they would attempt to contact their own escrow. Tried to change the terms we had already agreed on for days; the second I got an official escrow to agree to handle the trade safely, the price was suddenly unreasonable (even though it was what they offered me), I merely accepted their offer. Then they claim it's not worth it after they realize you won't do a deal with their sketchy escrow, accept their unsafe escrow terms, or accept a price they know will make you run away from the deal once it becomes too hard to scam. I agree with xBox, OPs trusts are sketchy, his actions scream "Scammer!", they do not hold their word, they lie and manipulate in an attempt to steal your items/codes. Do not deal with this user, I have forwarded this information to a few DT members and I'll be making a thread in Reputation to see if this kind of behavior can be exhumed. I am glad that you didn't get scammed. I knew you had a high value item, and I didn't want you to lose it. I just lost a $20 steam card. Not a big deal to me, because I can reverse the charges the 1st of the month when I get my credit card bill. No biggie. But your knife would have been gone forever. Glad that its not.
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January 28, 2018, 03:15:57 PM |
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I just looked through both of their profiles, it seems to me that there is not enough information to conclude that they are the same person and you very well may be harming the reputation of a completely different person that had nothing to do with your deal I'm not harming a innocent person. Its the same person. What your failing to realize is, they done the same thing with me, I just quit trying to find a escrow for such a low trade. I watched the trust, comments, activity of the account unwittingly so once I seen that this new thread popped up, just coincidently at the same time they did their in public transaction Thread Opened: January 14, 2018, 05:18:10 AM First Comment: 05:51:43 AM by https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1135704You have neg trust bro set a escrow from forum or you have to go first how much you have ? I sent the 50$ Steam code 15 min ago still no answer Now at that time the OP had a activity of less than 5 and commented in a matter to aid in the sell, benefit, +rep of the OP, was the first one to "Sell, Barter, Exchange" something with OP and then again commented in a manner that would try to convince other people that "No Escrow was Needed" Look through the history of posts and what do I find? https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2243557.msg22656883#msg22656883Just a Turkish post thats been deleted. Heres a comment by the OP in the Turkish section of bitcointalk: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2805510.msg28810208#msg28810208Just so happens they both speak Turkish. Was the first one to comment on the new thread within 33 minutes. Made public a successful exchange without the need for escrow. From what I can see their typing styles are different, their "Bump" posts are different, capitalization, words, etc. are ALL different. You are seeing what you want to see, because you are blinded by anger. Now that I've taken the time to illustrate most for you to see. Do you not see my original point when I made the post. he may "convince" you that they are trustworthy, and they may even do a honorable trade once or twice to try and build rep, but its still the same person. You did get that right. Protect yourself as if everyone is a scammer and you won't have to worry about making those judgement calls or loose associations you are attempting to make.
Bro i dont really want to waste time with you , escrow is okay everytime for me i can speak Turkish because my parents from Turkey they are immigrated to Germany so i can speak German too There is lots of user speaking turkish is that makes all of them guilty ? hell no Now your busted WHORE... HAHA.. Goes to show how smart you are. NONE.. You better enroll in a bilingual work program because you sure as hell aren't smart enough to do anything else. And when another thread comes up for Steam. You can bet I'll be there watching. Cause I've got nothing else to do on the weekends but scambust pieces of shit like you.
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January 28, 2018, 09:27:52 PM |
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Bro i dont really want to waste time with you , escrow is okay everytime for me
Scammer, do not deal with this user.They will tell you that escrow is ok, but they are lying; User explained to me that Lutpin is not a trustworthy Escrow and that they would attempt to contact their own escrow. Tried to change the terms we had already agreed on for days; the second I got an official escrow to agree to handle the trade safely, the price was suddenly unreasonable (even though it was what they offered me), I merely accepted their offer. Then they claim it's not worth it after they realize you won't do a deal with their sketchy escrow, accept their unsafe escrow terms, or accept a price they know will make you run away from the deal once it becomes too hard to scam. I agree with xBox, OPs trusts are sketchy, his actions scream "Scammer!", they do not hold their word, they lie and manipulate in an attempt to steal your items/codes. Do not deal with this user, I have forwarded this information to a few DT members and I'll be making a thread in Reputation to see if this kind of behavior can be exhumed. He told me his knife worth about 600$worth and i accepted 400$ but when i asked my trader friends they says that is not a good price for selling it thats why i dont buy i am everytime okay with escrow , but i cannot waste my money i am sorry for wasting your time ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif)
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January 29, 2018, 01:52:27 AM |
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He told me his knife worth about 600$worth and i accepted 400$ but when i asked my trader friends they says that is not a good price for selling it thats why i dont buy i am everytime okay with escrow , but i cannot waste my money i am sorry for wasting your time ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) The knife is worth about $600, yes; then you offered me $400 (The price of a below-average Butterfly Knife) and I accepted reluctantly because I just wanted to get the deal over with and have the cash in-hand without going through the verification process on OPSkins or some other similar site. You were perfectly fine with this price for multiple days, I asked you on 4-different days that this price was still ok, so that I did not have to waste escrow's time. You waited until the escrow is standing-by and ready to make the deal go through to start changing your terms and everything else. I don't care if you waste my time, I care that it seems like you are trying to scam me or at least run away when you think it is too difficult or public to do so. I'll make you another offer and see if this is more to your liking. I have a StatTrak Desert Eagle Crimson Web Factory New. Worth at least $300, but you could get $450 for it. http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/730/StatTrak%E2%84%A2%20Desert%20Eagle%20%7C%20Crimson%20Web%20(Factory%20New) https://opskins.com/?app=730_2&exterior=fn&loc=shop_search&search_item=crimson+web+desert&sort=lh&stat=1These are the links to Steam Market and OPSkins for this exact item, you can see that I am not lying about price. I also have a StatTrak M4A1-S Hyper Beast Factory New, which is at least $140 and you could easily get about $200 for it. http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/730/StatTrak%E2%84%A2%20M4A1-S%20%7C%20Hyper%20Beast%20(Factory%20New) https://opskins.com/?app=730_2&exterior=fn&loc=shop_search&search_item=M4A1-S+%7C+Hyper+Beast&sort=lh&stat=1These two items combined would catch a minimum of $440 if they were instantly sold to the lowest bidder; it you actually tried to sell them for a decent price you could fetch somewhere near $650. What are you willing to offer me for these two items combined? These items aren't rare patterns or anything else subjective, they are firm, objective market prices and there should be no reason for all the nonsense of last-time. I will pay escrow fees, I have already found a willing official and trusted escrow. I'm willing to work with you, and I'm willing to adjust my statement, but I just haven't seen cooperation on your part whatsoever.
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January 29, 2018, 07:19:51 AM |
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He told me his knife worth about 600$worth and i accepted 400$ but when i asked my trader friends they says that is not a good price for selling it thats why i dont buy i am everytime okay with escrow , but i cannot waste my money i am sorry for wasting your time ![Sad](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/sad.gif) The knife is worth about $600, yes; then you offered me $400 (The price of a below-average Butterfly Knife) and I accepted reluctantly because I just wanted to get the deal over with and have the cash in-hand without going through the verification process on OPSkins or some other similar site. You were perfectly fine with this price for multiple days, I asked you on 4-different days that this price was still ok, so that I did not have to waste escrow's time. You waited until the escrow is standing-by and ready to make the deal go through to start changing your terms and everything else. I don't care if you waste my time, I care that it seems like you are trying to scam me or at least run away when you think it is too difficult or public to do so. I'll make you another offer and see if this is more to your liking. I have a StatTrak Desert Eagle Crimson Web Factory New. Worth at least $300, but you could get $450 for it. http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/730/StatTrak%E2%84%A2%20Desert%20Eagle%20%7C%20Crimson%20Web%20(Factory%20New) https://opskins.com/?app=730_2&exterior=fn&loc=shop_search&search_item=crimson+web+desert&sort=lh&stat=1These are the links to Steam Market and OPSkins for this exact item, you can see that I am not lying about price. I also have a StatTrak M4A1-S Hyper Beast Factory New, which is at least $140 and you could easily get about $200 for it. http://steamcommunity.com/market/listings/730/StatTrak%E2%84%A2%20M4A1-S%20%7C%20Hyper%20Beast%20(Factory%20New) https://opskins.com/?app=730_2&exterior=fn&loc=shop_search&search_item=M4A1-S+%7C+Hyper+Beast&sort=lh&stat=1These two items combined would catch a minimum of $440 if they were instantly sold to the lowest bidder; it you actually tried to sell them for a decent price you could fetch somewhere near $650. What are you willing to offer me for these two items combined? These items aren't rare patterns or anything else subjective, they are firm, objective market prices and there should be no reason for all the nonsense of last-time. I will pay escrow fees, I have already found a willing official and trusted escrow. I'm willing to work with you, and I'm willing to adjust my statement, but I just haven't seen cooperation on your part whatsoever. Can you tell me why you flagged as scammer ? i never want your knife first like i told first time i am everytime okay with opskns,bitskins and escrow am i asked you for giving your stuff to me without getting any money this is wrong mate
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bill gator
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January 29, 2018, 12:03:11 PM |
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Can you tell me why you flagged as scammer ? i never want your knife first like i told first time i am everytime okay with opskns,bitskins and escrow am i asked you for giving your stuff to me without getting any money this is wrong mate
I just explained it in the last post; You are still lying, because you told me OPSkins wasn't ok with you and you said that Lutpin was not a trusted escrow. I marked you as a scammer, because you are acting like one; You are playing sleight of hand, lying, changing terms, saying official escrows are not trusted, lying about prices, etc. I have done many deals around the forum, I have had many deals fall through because of tough negotiation; This is one of the only times I have ever had a problem, do you think that is coincidence? Until you show me that you will act in good-faith then in my opinion you're attempting to scam. Even now, instead of moving forward and negotiating like a real person; you are crying about your rating that does not matter. If this was really something you were trying to operate professionally you would have read my last post and tried to make me an offer. Obviously if we have a good deal I know you haven't scammed me; I will not change my rating to positive, but I will remove it or change it to neutral once you have proven to me that you aren't a scammer. Right now though, you are just crying about a rating instead of trying to move forward and this is still a bad sign. You are lying about OPSkins and Escrow, the only reason I contacted an escrow was because you (at the last second) changed your mind about OPSkins saying "It take too long", even though it is instant. Are you going to make an offer, attempt to negotiate (AND STICK TO YOUR WORD) or just keep acting like a scammer? Also, stop quoting the entire post; just what you are responding to, it looks very ugly.
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