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January 15, 2018, 12:10:54 PM
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We have read a lot of stories about millions of new registrations on stock exchanges, people are moving to cryptocurrences and its January and almost the entire market is red. I understood some immersion, but it should encourage people to start shopping because the price was much higher than today, but not. Day after day we see the red color. Fall is maybe faster and faster. So I ask where all the new people and money are?! Everybody looking for the x1000 coin, but when no one buys, how you want to achieve that?
If the whole market is under whales and push the whole market down, it hurts everyone. Not just the media that loves to write negatively about cryptocurrency. It will not help anyone. People will be afraid to invest and cryptocurrency get into a recession.
When i will leave now, i will be still in profit, but im disgusted by this all. Maybe i will return to stocks. To may they ara normally rise.
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January 15, 2018, 12:19:47 PM
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People are just scared. Bitcoin transactions are super high and the market share of bitcoin compared to alt coins is pretty low. All these news from China wanting to end bitcoin mining and from South Korea and the supposed crypto trading ban created FUD and thats just reflecting on the market.

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January 15, 2018, 12:22:36 PM
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We have read a lot of stories about millions of new registrations on stock exchanges, people are moving to cryptocurrences and its January and almost the entire market is red. I understood some immersion, but it should encourage people to start shopping because the price was much higher than today, but not. Day after day we see the red color. Fall is maybe faster and faster. So I ask where all the new people and money are?! Everybody looking for the x1000 coin, but when no one buys, how you want to achieve that?
If the whole market is under whales and push the whole market down, it hurts everyone. Not just the media that loves to write negatively about cryptocurrency. It will not help anyone. People will be afraid to invest and cryptocurrency get into a recession.
When i will leave now, i will be still in profit, but im disgusted by this all. Maybe i will return to stocks. To may they ara normally rise.


To be honest, what have been your expectations when entering the crypto market? Making easy money in a few days as buying some random coins? Money is not made in a few days (except you bought into a rocket directly pumping x1000 after your investment...). Be patient, choose your coins wisely, invest time in research and buy at the right spots. The market will reward you in time (also the bunch of people entering the market now over the upcoming months).... Wait for 2018... We have 11/1/2 months left. It is not relevant whether your portfolio is "red" now. Trust the decisions you made in case you made them wisely.
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January 15, 2018, 12:31:29 PM
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JSterni, yes i made some good decisions, some bad ones. Most bad was investing in two coins during hype TRON and VIBE, but probably in the end, both coins could be ok, but now mainly TRON sadly looks like scam.

What is strange, and i dont understand why, how whole market is connected. When bitcoin falling, almost all falling, but when you trade pair BTC/any altcoin, selling altcoin when BTC falling dont make sense to me.

Yeah i enter to make some profilt of course, and its not pleasant, when all coins fall for several days. 
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January 15, 2018, 12:37:17 PM
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JSterni, yes i made some good decisions, some bad ones. Most bad was investing in two coins during hype TRON and VIBE, but probably in the end, both coins could be ok, but now mainly TRON sadly looks like scam.

What is strange, and i dont understand why, how whole market is connected. When bitcoin falling, almost all falling, but when you trade pair BTC/any altcoin, selling altcoin when BTC falling dont make sense to me.

Yeah i enter to make some profilt of course, and its not pleasant, when all coins fall for several days. 


The best advice is not to follow most of the advices made for instance here in the forum. Use everything as a hint you follow up to do your own research. It is your money, it is your decision in the end. Accumulating information where your investment is based on is no rocket science. There are some critical factors you should review, this will dramatically increase your outcome.

You are right, the whole market is connected and most coins show the same recurring patterns when BTC is moving. In most cases it does not make sense to sell your altcoins when BTC is falling (buy low --> sell high). Either buy "the blood" --> meaning coins dropping harder than the average market drop and gain some profits when markets recover OR hold your bags (especially if you made decisions for longterm coins).
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January 15, 2018, 12:38:08 PM
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We have read a lot of stories about millions of new registrations on stock exchanges, people are moving to cryptocurrences and its January and almost the entire market is red. I understood some immersion, but it should encourage people to start shopping because the price was much higher than today, but not. Day after day we see the red color. Fall is maybe faster and faster. So I ask where all the new people and money are?! Everybody looking for the x1000 coin, but when no one buys, how you want to achieve that?
If the whole market is under whales and push the whole market down, it hurts everyone. Not just the media that loves to write negatively about cryptocurrency. It will not help anyone. People will be afraid to invest and cryptocurrency get into a recession.
When i will leave now, i will be still in profit, but im disgusted by this all. Maybe i will return to stocks. To may they ara normally rise.


This happened before also in late third and fourth quarters of 2017, you can surely ask around and find people like me, who thought, wow, with all this red marks, surely it is a good time to buy up some alts. I did, many in fact, but then the alt market proceeded to just go redder and redder. Of course, in the past three weeks,,, things have changed. A few coins I was holding for almost six months finally turned to profit, so I sold enough to recover my Bitcoins. Now on overall BTC I am finally in profit, and if I remove my Elastic losses, I am highly in profit.

Do not worry, plenty of buyers like us still around. Dips are good.

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January 15, 2018, 12:41:37 PM
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JSterni, yes i made some good decisions, some bad ones. Most bad was investing in two coins during hype TRON and VIBE, but probably in the end, both coins could be ok, but now mainly TRON sadly looks like scam.

What is strange, and i dont understand why, how whole market is connected. When bitcoin falling, almost all falling, but when you trade pair BTC/any altcoin, selling altcoin when BTC falling dont make sense to me.

Yeah i enter to make some profilt of course, and its not pleasant, when all coins fall for several days. 


all crypto coins are connected the same way all eurozone coins are. It's the same people that use them, and they trade maily with BTC is the pair. The price goes up when people put more fiat into crypto and goes down when people take the money out. With all the problems today, some people are taking out their profits, hence the drops in the entire market.
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Ordinary people don't have that kind of money to shift market, well most of them.
Funds and large players are making big moves. Just some times many people all together can do something.
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January 15, 2018, 12:46:51 PM
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We have read a lot of stories about millions of new registrations on stock exchanges, people are moving to cryptocurrences
the keyword in that statement (which you overlooked) was newcomers aka newbies. and these people are currently losing money, panic selling and getting the hell out...

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and its January and almost the entire market is red.
that's what happens when you pump altcoins, they get dumped eventually and things become red!

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I understood some immersion, but it should encourage people to start shopping because the price was much higher than today, but not. Day after day we see the red color. Fall is maybe faster and faster.
terrible thing to do when there is a massive scale dumping is going on! you will 100% lose money and you have to become a bag holder and wait a long time with your fingers crossed to make what you lost back.

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So I ask where all the new people and money are?!
they are either newbies who got stuck in big altcoins like XRP and ETH and lots of others and are not losing money. some already panic sold and saved on further loss but others will hold on and panic sell when their losses became bigger.
or they are good traders which means they are either staying away from the market at the moment or moved to the coins that are getting pumped at the moment:

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January 15, 2018, 12:52:56 PM
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We have read a lot of stories about millions of new registrations on stock exchanges, people are moving to cryptocurrences and its January and almost the entire market is red. I understood some immersion, but it should encourage people to start shopping because the price was much higher than today, but not. Day after day we see the red color. Fall is maybe faster and faster. So I ask where all the new people and money are?! Everybody looking for the x1000 coin, but when no one buys, how you want to achieve that?
If the whole market is under whales and push the whole market down, it hurts everyone. Not just the media that loves to write negatively about cryptocurrency. It will not help anyone. People will be afraid to invest and cryptocurrency get into a recession.
When i will leave now, i will be still in profit, but im disgusted by this all. Maybe i will return to stocks. To may they ara normally rise.

bad time is also a good time.
the bottom is the bottom, that means a good chance to make great fortune
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January 15, 2018, 01:01:14 PM
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Well i think the recent huge pump was due to a lot of new money entering the market, i guess all those new investors are cashing out the profits at the moment, it is normal for any market, buyers will be back soon.

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January 15, 2018, 01:02:08 PM
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As you already stated cryptp markets are fundamentally different than stocks. Too much manipulation going on. New money doesn't always mean new money, most people are in for profits..

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January 15, 2018, 01:18:13 PM
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Yeah, i entered in november with some, money. My investment went 3x times up. Then i told myself !that is great. I will invest x more money, i will make xxx money!" And bang. Now all falls. I just made some calculation, invested in some good coins, which of course couldnt make x times in short, i know that. But almost all (shit)coins immediatelly from my investment started falling... And i made some really stupid buys, with TRX and VIBES for 2 dollars.
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January 15, 2018, 01:26:47 PM
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Yeah, i entered in november with some, money. My investment went 3x times up. Then i told myself !that is great. I will invest x more money, i will make xxx money!" And bang. Now all falls. I just made some calculation, invested in some good coins, which of course couldnt make x times in short, i know that. But almost all (shit)coins immediatelly from my investment started falling... And i made some really stupid buys, with TRX and VIBES for 2 dollars.

In which altcoins did you invest in addition to TRX and VIBES?
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January 15, 2018, 01:52:30 PM
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We have read a lot of stories about millions of new registrations on stock exchanges, people are moving to cryptocurrences and its January and almost the entire market is red. I understood some immersion, but it should encourage people to start shopping because the price was much higher than today, but not. Day after day we see the red color. Fall is maybe faster and faster. So I ask where all the new people and money are?! Everybody looking for the x1000 coin, but when no one buys, how you want to achieve that?
If the whole market is under whales and push the whole market down, it hurts everyone. Not just the media that loves to write negatively about cryptocurrency. It will not help anyone. People will be afraid to invest and cryptocurrency get into a recession.
When i will leave now, i will be still in profit, but im disgusted by this all. Maybe i will return to stocks. To may they ara normally rise.

This is crypto if you are feeling worry about the market goes wild and then you can try back to the stock market. Crypto based in the supply and demand and that can't be manipulated.
Profit tanking will always be hurting the crypto, for those are new to entering the crypto currency and they must learn a before try to do anything.

 
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January 15, 2018, 02:18:53 PM
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We have read a lot of stories about millions of new registrations on stock exchanges, people are moving to cryptocurrences and its January and almost the entire market is red. I understood some immersion, but it should encourage people to start shopping because the price was much higher than today, but not. Day after day we see the red color. Fall is maybe faster and faster. So I ask where all the new people and money are?! Everybody looking for the x1000 coin, but when no one buys, how you want to achieve that?
If the whole market is under whales and push the whole market down, it hurts everyone. Not just the media that loves to write negatively about cryptocurrency. It will not help anyone. People will be afraid to invest and cryptocurrency get into a recession.
When i will leave now, i will be still in profit, but im disgusted by this all. Maybe i will return to stocks. To may they ara normally rise.

where did all the buyers go?
maybe they are, participate in the ICO, and buy tokens.
some of them buy IZX TOKENS. Izetex Encourages Everyone to Collect Cryptocurrency Just by Walking.
who knows?  Smiley
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We have read a lot of stories about millions of new registrations on stock exchanges, people are moving to cryptocurrences and its January and almost the entire market is red. I understood some immersion, but it should encourage people to start shopping because the price was much higher than today, but not. Day after day we see the red color. Fall is maybe faster and faster. So I ask where all the new people and money are?! Everybody looking for the x1000 coin, but when no one buys, how you want to achieve that?
If the whole market is under whales and push the whole market down, it hurts everyone. Not just the media that loves to write negatively about cryptocurrency. It will not help anyone. People will be afraid to invest and cryptocurrency get into a recession.
When i will leave now, i will be still in profit, but im disgusted by this all. Maybe i will return to stocks. To may they ara normally rise.



History just repeats. after ever bubble people left Bitcoin, just to return at peak of another.  On average you need to be part of 2 bubbles to realize what crypto is.

I will leave here yearly gains of Bitcoin:

2010 $0.003  +10000%
2011 $0.3        +1566%
2012 $5            +160%
2013 $13         +5823%
2014 $770           -59%
2015 $316          +36%
2016 $430        +128%
2017 $980      +1286%
2018 $13585




For me personally if 2017 trend would just continue and we would be at $40k I would be worried.  What we have now is totally natural. Consolidation.  It can go much lower then this. In worse scenarios even close to $5000. But not for long.   But sooner or latter we will see new  x5 or x10 spike.   It is up to you what you want. It is nothing hard really.  all you have to do is buy some Bitcoin and store it safely and you dont have to do anything else. Nothing. You just wait.


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January 15, 2018, 02:31:57 PM
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Can't really believe this kind of post. You can practically buy ANY shitcoins, and double up your money in a less than a couple of month. You made 3x in 2 months !!! Are you really complaining about not making enough profit ?

It is an incredible time to profit from this crypto world, and people still manage to complain. How can they even loose money ? What the fuck do you expect: 1000x in 10mn ? Do you even have a little clue about the world we are living in ?

Don't try to be smart trading against bots and whales. Just Hodl for a few months, a couple of years if you can, and enjoy. That's right, you have to wait a little bit first. When speaking about investment, 1 year is a VERY short time. You speak about less than 2 months, and for your last investments, a couple of weeks ?

And there isn't millions of newcomers as many exchanges closed their registration. Also Kraken was down for 2 days.

Or maybe go back to stock to make a few % a year before the biggest bubble of all time burst...
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January 15, 2018, 02:52:10 PM
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I understand you but this should not change your ideas, you are not responsible for this. Those people wanting 100x returns don't know what danger they are in. I think one big crash will be enough to sweep them away.

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