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January 16, 2018, 04:57:53 PM
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I was asked to create and manage a thread of an upcoming ICO project. It looks legit to me, but the team members are not mentioned on the website (the only suspicious thing about it). I can't be 100% sure if the project is not going to scam people (including me) and I noticed that mainly the promoters of the project (=ones moderating the ann thread) are those who get negative trust in case something goes wrong. However, I would not be related to the project and not be the one who would scam people in case something goes wrong. Can I lead the thread and ensure not getting neg trust in that unpleasant case or it just doesn't work this way and I have to take full responsibility for the team's actions? I would really like to hear answers from trusted forum members who know how these things work on this forum.
Thanks in advance!

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January 16, 2018, 05:03:03 PM
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It sounds as if you are being set up as the patsy. Smiley

Why would you support it if they are ashamed to be associated with it?

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January 16, 2018, 05:18:43 PM
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You should be 100% transparent about your role in the project.  For example, if you receive a payment for making the ANN thread, you should be open about it.  You should also be cautious of the project and request to see their business plan as well as what they're doing to accomplish it.  I tend to look for signs like how much money the developers have put into the project out of their own pocket.  If the developers have no product, don't want to be listed as the developers, haven't put any money into the project besides fancy graphics, and you have no knowledge of any other successful projects, then you should probably not get involved.

Mostly though, be transparent.  Whether a project turns out to be a scam or not is largely beyond the control of paid 3rd parties.  If you are 100% transparent about your role, and their is no ill intent, it would be difficult for a reasonable person to blame you.

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January 16, 2018, 05:19:51 PM
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Problem is if you are going to moderate the topic it's obvious you are paid for it (doubt you're doing it for free) aka you can be considered as accomplice.
Might be good idea to put in some disclaimer note saying you are not invoved in this project  .... but nobody can say if it saves you from being redtagged.

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January 17, 2018, 05:19:49 PM
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It sounds as if you are being set up as the patsy. Smiley

Why would you support it if they are ashamed to be associated with it?
Very good point. At first I thought that maybe it was just a mistake and these people forgot to mention the team members in a project, as it's a new one, but now I see that it looks like they don't want to be known for some reasons. It doesn't necessarily mean they are scammers (for instance, the team might be from a country where icos are forbidden by the law), but it's suspicious anyway.
Might be good idea to put in some disclaimer note saying you are not invoved in this project  .... but nobody can say if it saves you from being redtagged.
That's what I tried to do and they told me that no statements of this kind are allowed.
You should be 100% transparent about your role in the project.  For example, if you receive a payment for making the ANN thread, you should be open about it.  You should also be cautious of the project and request to see their business plan as well as what they're doing to accomplish it.  I tend to look for signs like how much money the developers have put into the project out of their own pocket.  If the developers have no product, don't want to be listed as the developers, haven't put any money into the project besides fancy graphics, and you have no knowledge of any other successful projects, then you should probably not get involved.

Mostly though, be transparent.  Whether a project turns out to be a scam or not is largely beyond the control of paid 3rd parties.  If you are 100% transparent about your role, and their is no ill intent, it would be difficult for a reasonable person to blame you.
Thanks a lot for the advice! I am pleased that such an honorable member answered in my thread.
Even though the team offered good payment, I decided not to get involved, because I wasn't allowed to state that I am a hired person and the team is still not showing themselves, though in some other matters the project looks okay imho.

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January 17, 2018, 05:28:18 PM
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Might be good idea to put in some disclaimer note saying you are not invoved in this project  .... but nobody can say if it saves you from being redtagged.
That's what I tried to do and they told me that no statements of this kind are allowed.
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What? That sounds fishy. Seems like they want you to be their scapegoat. I would be careful.

EDIT: oh, I read the last paragraph. Good decision you made IMO.

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What i usually do is put a line break





And write something along the lines.

"I do not support any scam projects. Should this project be proven a scam or dishonest in any way, i will gladly delete this post"


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January 18, 2018, 05:40:54 AM
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And write something along the lines.

"I do not support any scam projects. Should this project be proven a scam or dishonest in any way, i will gladly delete this post"
Unfortunately by the time he already deleted his post, some people would have fallen for the scam project  Undecided

@OP
Better do research on the project before taking a lead on a project, if it smells fishy then don't take it
There are many ICOs project that turned out to be a scam, so I'd advise to be more vigilant when being offered a job like that
By refusing a potentially scam job you already helped newbies to not lose their money Smiley
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January 18, 2018, 05:44:43 AM
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Can I lead the thread and ensure not getting neg trust in that unpleasant case or it just doesn't work this way and I have to take full responsibility for the team's actions?

You are a Hero Member sir.

People respect you.  You have more responsibility than the average user to make sure you are not promoting a scam.

NO, you are not safe if you ANN a scam project.  Sad

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January 18, 2018, 09:49:34 AM
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Can I lead the thread and ensure not getting neg trust in that unpleasant case or it just doesn't work this way and I have to take full responsibility for the team's actions?

You are a Hero Member sir.

People respect you.  You have more responsibility than the average user to make sure you are not promoting a scam.

NO, you are not safe if you ANN a scam project.  Sad

But with all due respect Sir Vod, I have been following your footsteps and been able to catch a number of scammers here which I why I trust you and your decisions.

However I do not agree to your second point. Being a Hero Member here does not make any of us "responsible" - anybody can run a scam project or do something illegal - its their choice. And definitely people never respect us or any legendary member. Let alone DT members - they see most of the butthurt feedback and trolling. It is the responsibility of the person undertaking this but still "respect" is not that easily gained by people here - most of us seem like douchbags when we protest against a scam  Cry

Even then we dont care and we enjoy the mountain of butthurt feedback!  Grin

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January 18, 2018, 09:58:05 AM
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I was asked to create and manage a thread of an upcoming ICO project. It looks legit to me, but the team members are not mentioned on the website (the only suspicious thing about it). I can't be 100% sure if the project is not going to scam people (including me) and I noticed that mainly the promoters of the project (=ones moderating the ann thread) are those who get negative trust in case something goes wrong. However, I would not be related to the project and not be the one who would scam people in case something goes wrong. Can I lead the thread and ensure not getting neg trust in that unpleasant case or it just doesn't work this way and I have to take full responsibility for the team's actions? I would really like to hear answers from trusted forum members who know how these things work on this forum.
Thanks in advance!

If you have this concern already, then it means that this platform may be shady in the first place to even initiate your suspicions that it may go to scam. And that would be enough for you to stop and go no further with the project.

Unless you make it very clear that you do not endorse the project and it may be a scam, and invest at your own risk, blah blah blah, then you *may* be safe from negative ratings. It's what some people do with their signatures.

Otherwise, if the platform goes scam, you as the main promoter/ANN poster is probably going to be negged as well.

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But with all due respect Sir Vod, I have been following your footsteps and been able to catch a number of scammers here which I why I trust you and your decisions.

However I do not agree to your second point. Being a Hero Member here does not make any of us "responsible" - anybody can run a scam project or do something illegal - its their choice. And definitely people never respect us or any legendary member. Let alone DT members - they see most of the butthurt feedback and trolling. It is the responsibility of the person undertaking this but still "respect" is not that easily gained by people here - most of us seem like douchbags when we protest against a scam  Cry

Even then we dont care and we enjoy the mountain of butthurt feedback!  Grin
When you are a Hero member, it means you have joined the community for at least a year, by that time we should at least felt a sense of belonging to the community. We've bonded with it and wanted to protect the community, I'm sure that is one of the reason why you spent your time catching scammers all around the forum.

Anybody can run scam project, yes, but that is why we, "Seniors",  have to warn other people of potential scam ahead of us. Don't let words stops you from fighting against scams, Vod receives a lot negative feedbacks and yet it did not deters him from flagging potential scam, he loves the community as a whole.
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January 18, 2018, 05:46:12 PM
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I was asked to create and manage a thread of an upcoming ICO project. It looks legit to me, but the team members are not mentioned on the website (the only suspicious thing about it). I can't be 100% sure if the project is not going to scam people (including me)
Why would you want to promote a project you're not sure about ? Secondly,why do you think the project members are not willing to announce the ANN themselves ? Copper membership really solves their image restrictions.

and I noticed that mainly the promoters of the project (=ones moderating the ann thread) are those who get negative trust in case something goes wrong. However, I would not be related to the project and not be the one who would scam people in case something goes wrong. Can I lead the thread and ensure not getting neg trust in that unpleasant case or it just doesn't work this way and I have to take full responsibility for the team's actions? I would really like to hear answers from trusted forum members who know how these things work on this forum.
Thanks in advance!
Yes you will be partially held responsible since you took a risk even after knowing the team could be a scam project.Moreover,most of the newbies here take words of hero members seriously and consider them as a 'reputable figure'.According to this logic ,newbies usually think of it as 'Oh the project must be legit since they are announced by a Hero member' which is flawed.


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January 18, 2018, 09:24:02 PM
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I was asked to create and manage a thread of an upcoming ICO project. It looks legit to me, but the team members are not mentioned on the website (the only suspicious thing about it). I can't be 100% sure if the project is not going to scam people (including me) and I noticed that mainly the promoters of the project (=ones moderating the ann thread) are those who get negative trust in case something goes wrong. However, I would not be related to the project and not be the one who would scam people in case something goes wrong. Can I lead the thread and ensure not getting neg trust in that unpleasant case or it just doesn't work this way and I have to take full responsibility for the team's actions? I would really like to hear answers from trusted forum members who know how these things work on this forum.
Thanks in advance!
Since you have noticed that something is not right and you came forward with it i think that you have made the first step to be pardon. Everything is about reputation when it comes to the management of a campaign.

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January 19, 2018, 08:25:42 AM
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I was asked to create and manage a thread of an upcoming ICO project. It looks legit to me, but the team members are not mentioned on the website (the only suspicious thing about it). I can't be 100% sure if the project is not going to scam people (including me) and I noticed that mainly the promoters of the project (=ones moderating the ann thread) are those who get negative trust in case something goes wrong. However, I would not be related to the project and not be the one who would scam people in case something goes wrong. Can I lead the thread and ensure not getting neg trust in that unpleasant case or it just doesn't work this way and I have to take full responsibility for the team's actions? I would really like to hear answers from trusted forum members who know how these things work on this forum.
Thanks in advance!

If you have even 1% doubt, just pass the project, if team can't show their face and prove their identity means they have something to hide so best way avoid it.

Why taking risk because of them who don't trust their own project.
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January 19, 2018, 10:08:35 AM
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Which ICO was this?

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