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January 16, 2018, 06:05:30 PM
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I sent a transaction using my windows Electrum Wallet 2 weeks ago.
The transaction is still stuck on Replaceable since than !
Can anyone guide me what to do ?
cant afford to lose my coins !
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January 16, 2018, 08:13:23 PM
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Hello
I sent a transaction using my windows Electrum Wallet 2 weeks ago.
The transaction is still stuck on Replaceable since than !
Can anyone guide me what to do ?
cant afford to lose my coins !
Thanks

Right click the transaction --> press increase fee (or something similar) and input a new fee for the transaction to have as it's a replaceable one. Look at bitcoinfees.21.co to see what fee it suggests based on the size of your transaction (in bytes).
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January 16, 2018, 10:33:31 PM
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Thanks for your reply!
I already tried that many times but i am getting an error message.

http://prntscr.com/i1ff7w

this is the transaction ID
7e5dcd4eaf2ebe4cadc238cc890f7e9a1e1180c022e40e54ca56897bee132427
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January 16, 2018, 10:41:32 PM
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Hello
I sent a transaction using my windows Electrum Wallet 2 weeks ago.
The transaction is still stuck on Replaceable since than !
Can anyone guide me what to do ?
cant afford to lose my coins !
Thanks

Right click the transaction --> press increase fee (or something similar) and input a new fee for the transaction to have as it's a replaceable one. Look at bitcoinfees.21.co to see what fee it suggests based on the size of your transaction (in bytes).

Thanks for your reply ! but it did not work ... i tried that many times !
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January 16, 2018, 11:39:15 PM
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Did you tried to accelerate it or CPFP?
Try to push your transaction follow this method below
There are lots of ways to accelerate your transaction but if you are using electrum wallet this transaction should be rejected and you can start send again but need to increase the miners fee..  Try the CPFP(Child Pays For Parent) just send another bitcoin from your bitcoin address to other bitcoin address but make sure this time to increase the miners fee use the default fee here https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/ its enough to pay your new transaction and your old stuck transaction..
You can also try this method

1. First open go to blockchain.info copy paste your txid e055308422bdbbe0028151e238e0df4779f73679d1e749a6c3ced811225c6c8b
2. as you can see your transaction still not confirm now add ?format=hex to the url sample
https://blockchain.info/tx/e055308422bdbbe0028151e238e0df4779f73679d1e749a6c3ced811225c6c8b?format=hex
You can see the hex code.
3. copy the hex code and submit it to pushtx listed here https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_broadcasting

And hope that your transaction can be confirm..

Also try submit your transaction here https://pool.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/ and here https://www.antpool.com/user/prioritiseTransaction.htm?m=savePrioritiseTx
Make sure you login first in antpool before you use that link and submit your unconfirmed transaction..

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January 16, 2018, 11:52:04 PM
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Did you tried to accelerate it or CPFP?
Try to push your transaction follow this method below
There are lots of ways to accelerate your transaction but if you are using electrum wallet this transaction should be rejected and you can start send again but need to increase the miners fee..  Try the CPFP(Child Pays For Parent) just send another bitcoin from your bitcoin address to other bitcoin address but make sure this time to increase the miners fee use the default fee here https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/ its enough to pay your new transaction and your old stuck transaction..
You can also try this method

1. First open go to blockchain.info copy paste your txid e055308422bdbbe0028151e238e0df4779f73679d1e749a6c3ced811225c6c8b
2. as you can see your transaction still not confirm now add ?format=hex to the url sample
https://blockchain.info/tx/e055308422bdbbe0028151e238e0df4779f73679d1e749a6c3ced811225c6c8b?format=hex
You can see the hex code.
3. copy the hex code and submit it to pushtx listed here https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_broadcasting

And hope that your transaction can be confirm..

Also try submit your transaction here https://pool.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/ and here https://www.antpool.com/user/prioritiseTransaction.htm?m=savePrioritiseTx
Make sure you login first in antpool before you use that link and submit your unconfirmed transaction..

I heard the transaction should be rejected and back to my wallet !
But this is not happening after 11 days !
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January 17, 2018, 12:19:12 AM
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Thanks for your reply!
I already tried that many times but i am getting an error message.

http://prntscr.com/i1ff7w

this is the transaction ID
7e5dcd4eaf2ebe4cadc238cc890f7e9a1e1180c022e40e54ca56897bee132427

I'm not sure about that error message. Do you have enough funds avaliable from the sending address in order to do the RBF - double spend.

Did you tried to accelerate it or CPFP?
Try to push your transaction follow this method below
There are lots of ways to accelerate your transaction but if you are using electrum wallet this transaction should be rejected and you can start send again but need to increase the miners fee..  Try the CPFP(Child Pays For Parent) just send another bitcoin from your bitcoin address to other bitcoin address but make sure this time to increase the miners fee use the default fee here https://bitcoinfees.earn.com/ its enough to pay your new transaction and your old stuck transaction..
You can also try this method

1. First open go to blockchain.info copy paste your txid e055308422bdbbe0028151e238e0df4779f73679d1e749a6c3ced811225c6c8b
2. as you can see your transaction still not confirm now add ?format=hex to the url sample
https://blockchain.info/tx/e055308422bdbbe0028151e238e0df4779f73679d1e749a6c3ced811225c6c8b?format=hex
You can see the hex code.
3. copy the hex code and submit it to pushtx listed here https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Transaction_broadcasting

And hope that your transaction can be confirm..

Also try submit your transaction here https://pool.viabtc.com/tools/txaccelerator/ and here https://www.antpool.com/user/prioritiseTransaction.htm?m=savePrioritiseTx
Make sure you login first in antpool before you use that link and submit your unconfirmed transaction..

I heard the transaction should be rejected and back to my wallet !
But this is not happening after 11 days !

Under standard rules, it should be rejected after 21 days, however, sometimes it isn't.

If someone configures their mempool differently in their node then it may never stop being broadcast and you can still lose money doing it that way as your transaction can be re-broadcast by someone else if you don't spend the inputs for it.
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January 17, 2018, 05:39:57 AM
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You can not bump the fee because your "change address" which is the first output is only 4500 satoshi and that can not go any lower than that because it is close to the dust limit. that is what the error message in your screenshot is saying.

besides even if you decrease it to 0 it still wouldn't matter in your transaction! 4500 satoshi increases your fee by 0.12 satoshi/byte since your transction size is 34868 bytes.

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January 17, 2018, 08:18:37 AM
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See 1 bump fee here. AFAICT you have CPFP and manual CPFP as options if you want to bump the fee. Both are covered in that link.
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January 17, 2018, 08:55:48 AM
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I'm not sure about that error message. Do you have enough funds avaliable from the sending address in order to do the RBF - double spend.



Under standard rules, it should be rejected after 21 days, however, sometimes it isn't.

If someone configures their mempool differently in their node then it may never stop being broadcast and you can still lose money doing it that way as your transaction can be re-broadcast by someone else if you don't spend the inputs for it.

Yes, I have enough balance in my wallet !

What do you suggest to do in that case ?
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January 17, 2018, 09:15:23 PM
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I'm not sure about that error message. Do you have enough funds avaliable from the sending address in order to do the RBF - double spend.



Under standard rules, it should be rejected after 21 days, however, sometimes it isn't.

If someone configures their mempool differently in their node then it may never stop being broadcast and you can still lose money doing it that way as your transaction can be re-broadcast by someone else if you don't spend the inputs for it.

Yes, I have enough balance in my wallet !

What do you suggest to do in that case ?

This is probably right:
You can not bump the fee because your "change address" which is the first output is only 4500 satoshi and that can not go any lower than that because it is close to the dust limit. that is what the error message in your screenshot is saying.

besides even if you decrease it to 0 it still wouldn't matter in your transaction! 4500 satoshi increases your fee by 0.12 satoshi/byte since your transction size is 34868 bytes.

Try looking at doing a CPFP transaction or try to do a literal double spend with it using the same inputs. If you send my your master public key I'll try to fashon a transaction from my wallet that uses the same inputs (and then give the transaction file back to you to broadcast) but it will be a very high fee that you'll need to use for a transaction that size as you're after priority due to how much of a block it'll fill. 
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January 18, 2018, 01:05:00 PM
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I have a similar problem with this 3-weeks old transaction sent from Electrum: https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/a7050759f3429363005f370c77814ce4a396f34faa6e081d7289f58ac89d834b

Some explorers can not even find that transaction now, so i guess the network is slowly discarding it.
But it is still stuck on Electrum.

Maybe the only way to clean this TX from my wallet is to export the private keys to a different wallet, like Multibit.

Will let you know if i'm successful or i still have the stuck transaction in the other wallet too.

What do you guys suggest? Are these bugs with Electrum?
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January 18, 2018, 07:28:12 PM
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I have a similar problem with this 3-weeks old transaction sent from Electrum: https://www.blocktrail.com/BTC/tx/a7050759f3429363005f370c77814ce4a396f34faa6e081d7289f58ac89d834b

Some explorers can not even find that transaction now, so i guess the network is slowly discarding it.
But it is still stuck on Electrum.

Maybe the only way to clean this TX from my wallet is to export the private keys to a different wallet, like Multibit.

Will let you know if i'm successful or i still have the stuck transaction in the other wallet too.

What do you guys suggest? Are these bugs with Electrum?

No they're "bugs" with bitcoin in general
As it's decentralised, there's no easy way to remove a transaction. You can either keep rebroadcasting it through the network, re-sign a transaction with a higher fee (using the SAME INPUTS) or pay and "sweep" the coins into a new wallet.
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January 18, 2018, 08:58:43 PM
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No they're "bugs" with bitcoin in general
As it's decentralised, there's no easy way to remove a transaction. You can either keep rebroadcasting it through the network, re-sign a transaction with a higher fee (using the SAME INPUTS) or pay and "sweep" the coins into a new wallet.

Is it not best to import and not sweep?
e.g. get the private key from Electrum and import into Multibit

So that no additional transaction is needed
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January 19, 2018, 12:20:36 AM
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No they're "bugs" with bitcoin in general
As it's decentralised, there's no easy way to remove a transaction. You can either keep rebroadcasting it through the network, re-sign a transaction with a higher fee (using the SAME INPUTS) or pay and "sweep" the coins into a new wallet.

Is it not best to import and not sweep?
e.g. get the private key from Electrum and import into Multibit

So that no additional transaction is needed

Your unconfirmed transaction will still appear if you import the keys so importing it just gives you a duplicate of the issue but in a different wallet.
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