[4ETH bounty] to track down a Telegram scammer and retrieve stolen funds

[KazWog]

Hey guys,

I and another person have just been scammed by a Telegram user. We both have sent ETH to his/her address.
While we do not have too much information about this person/entity, we do have the ETH address, and still have the Telegram username (the username has been changed a few times now).

I was scammed by 1500 USD, and a fellow Telegram user was scammed out of 9000 USD by the same perpetrator.

Any suggestions on tracking the scammer down?
Our plan is to reward anyone who could:

1) get more incriminating details of the scammer
AND
2) retrieve the ETH stolen from us
AND
3) obtain a real name, address, location, anything that is useful for us.

As we are still working out on how to reward the bounty, how much is fair, and how to validate if a piece of information is legit, please feel free to chip in your advise.

Update: the scammer's Telegram ID is redwings13, his name now changed to (Jake)
His previous Telegram ID was jwalks55 (J Money)

Another scammer, believed to be of the same person, with telegram ID NickCryptoC

Scammer's ETH address:
0x489d733e8a471A6fb1870524f3e8D929550208a7

Screenshots of the telegram conversation with scammer below:

https://ibb.co/c0rJRm
https://ibb.co/bLoXmm
https://ibb.co/iSMJRm
https://ibb.co/fnWUXR
https://ibb.co/eEe56m
https://ibb.co/nqW7K6
https://ibb.co/mC5Zz6
https://ibb.co/h8ajz6

More screenshots of ICO admin warning group members of this scammer:
https://ibb.co/dqNNK6
https://ibb.co/euef6m

TL:DR: scammer selling us an ICO coin (SALpay ICO concluded recently) that has been recently "minted"/distributed to ICO contributors. If the scammer has SALpay, and inherited the SALpay coins directly from the ICO, then SALpay should be able to report the scammer to the authority, as it was a KYC ICO.

Even if the scammer did not inherit the SALpay coins directly from the ICO, the transactions might be traceable back to the original contributor of the ICO?

[Parodium]

So you two were scammed around 10 ETH total, and now you're offering 10 ETH reward?

Are you willing to hold the 10 ETH in escrow until the scammer has been found, as this level of reward seems unrealistic considering how much was stolen in the first place.

[examplens]

Hey guys,

I and another person have just been scammed by a Telegram user. We both have sent ETH to his/her address.
While we do not have too much information about this person/entity, we do have the ETH address, and still have the Telegram username (the username has been changed a few times now).

I was scammed by 1500 USD, and a fellow Telegram user was scammed out of 9000 USD by the same perpetrator.

Any suggestions on tracking the scammer down?
Our plan is to reward anyone who could:


1) get more incriminating details of the scammer
2) retrieve the ETH stolen from us
3) obtain a real name, address, location, anything that is useful for us.

As we are still working out on how to reward the bounty, how much is fair, and how to validate if a piece of information is legit, please feel free to chip in your advise.

I will update this post with  more details when I get home.

Can you explain what heapens exactly? Why you are send 10eth to someone whom you do not know? I guess he promised big profit to you.

[Text]

Can you explain what heapens exactly? Why you are send 10eth to someone whom you do not know? I guess he promised big profit to you.

You may be right, it could be investments. I think, one more thing is because of donation for a project or token.
To the victim, please be specific on what exactly happened. Why it turned out on scamming you and the other.
If it is about newly created tokens and projects, they have been scammed by a poser, who made them beleive that he is part of the team or developer.

[Lone Shark]

Hey guys,

I and another person have just been scammed by a Telegram user. We both have sent ETH to his/her address.
While we do not have too much information about this person/entity, we do have the ETH address, and still have the Telegram username (the username has been changed a few times now).

I was scammed by 1500 USD, and a fellow Telegram user was scammed out of 9000 USD by the same perpetrator.

Any suggestions on tracking the scammer down?
Our plan is to reward anyone who could:


1) get more incriminating details of the scammer
2) retrieve the ETH stolen from us
3) obtain a real name, address, location, anything that is useful for us.

As we are still working out on how to reward the bounty, how much is fair, and how to validate if a piece of information is legit, please feel free to chip in your advise.

I will update this post with  more details when I get home.

So you are paying $10,000 just to find out who scammed you?

Just to be clear, right now the price of each ETH is about $1,000.

[KazWog]

So you two were scammed around 10 ETH total, and now you're offering 10 ETH reward?

Are you willing to hold the 10 ETH in escrow until the scammer has been found, as this level of reward seems unrealistic considering how much was stolen in the first place.

I think 10ETH is a large sum too, as this is the first time I'm handling a scam issue, I don't know what justify it as fair. I guess the absolute most we're willing to pay, is the amount we've lost. I don't know how complex/complicated will it be, to engage with the scammer, extract important details, enough to get him reported to the authority.

In view of this, I'll reduce the bounty to 4ETH, and will revise as we progress?

[LuanX3]

What's the point of paying what you lost?

Example:

Retrieve 10 ETH
Pay 10 ETH
You receive 0 ETH.

Just a wasted effort.

To be honest with you, this is already a lost cause. Even if you find out who scammed you and paid less than what you lost, what's the point? Either you break their legs (cheapest option) or file a case (will probably cost more than what you lost, not to mention the high likelihood that the scammer is not within your jurisdiction).

The chances are, the scammer is good at relatively hiding and covering his tracks and will take a lot more money to really find out who he is. We're talking about FBI level shit here.

[UCHCHILD]

There is no other solution mate,  unless you have his or her ID but it is really difficult to figure out someones's identity here,  we do not know about the people behind that name.  This is the most poor case in this world and we can not even have a justice for this. Some just learned their lessons from this issue because it is really really hard to track people in the web because it WORLD wide coverage.

[cowkiller3766]

I can track him. Message me on Wickr "cowkiller" we can talk there.

[aTriz]

So you two were scammed around 10 ETH total, and now you're offering 10 ETH reward?

Are you willing to hold the 10 ETH in escrow until the scammer has been found, as this level of reward seems unrealistic considering how much was stolen in the first place.

I think 10ETH is a large sum too, as this is the first time I'm handling a scam issue, I don't know what justify it as fair. I guess the absolute most we're willing to pay, is the amount we've lost. I don't know how complex/complicated will it be, to engage with the scammer, extract important details, enough to get him reported to the authority.

In view of this, I'll reduce the bounty to 4ETH, and will revise as we progress?

Put the 4 eth in escrow or no one will do it.

[KazWog]

I can track him. Message me on Wickr "cowkiller" we can talk there.

Hi there,
I can't seem to add "cowkiller" on Wickr.
Could you add me "KazWog" instead?

[btcton]

I can track him. Message me on Wickr "cowkiller" we can talk there.

Hi there,
I can't seem to add "cowkiller" on Wickr.
Could you add me "KazWog" instead?

Careful with whom you are dealing with. The user you are currently replying to is pretty new to the forums and might just be looking to scam you. After having posted all that you have posted here, you have exposed yourself as an easy-to-scam, gullible user. This user might simply be trying to get you to pay him for services that he might not be able to actually render. As mentioned above, the chances of you getting your money back or obtaining any "justice" from this are pretty much zero. You should honestly just move on; there is no way to track someone down through Telegram and even if you managed to identify the culprit, you would have a hard time having the evidence for "authorities" to deal with him.

[justine11]

I'll just help you out with this but i don't think this can contribute a lot since you are finding his real identity and details anyways here it goes:
I searched the google with your address provided on your post, and i found this he is also user here in this forum and he is a serial scammer

User link: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1008125
Name: ProspectorsPR
Address linked to his profile and OP's post: 0x489d733e8a471A6fb1870524f3e8D929550208a7

For now i suggest that you should post a scam accussation against this user here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?board=83.0