Human Hash

[a.denis1]

There is a great development that can solve a lot of problems and can open the door to new features, I am trying to figure out if there is a way to build this feature.
The idea is to build an "hash" to identify a real person. There must be 3 property.

1) for every human must be a unique hash id
2) it is not possible to build this hash id without the real person ( it is not possible to build in an automatic way these id)
3) decentralized , without a certifier authority

For example a not working solution can be something related to the dna code , build an hash from the dna but violate the point 2 because is possible to build in automatic false hash id ...

Any idea for a solution?

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[Turkish88]

Yes i have some idea's for this.
What if we hash fingerprints of peoples, its unique for every person on earth, and databases already collcted 

[a.denis1]

Yes i have some idea's for this.
What if we hash fingerprints of peoples, its unique for every person on earth, and databases already collcted 

Yes but it is not decentralized you need an authority to certificate the database.
There are a lot of  centralized solutions like id-card etc using the nation as the authority of certification.

Yes I forget to specify a point 3) decentralized

[temdevs]

Civic token is looking like what you are saying even if it's not exactly the same: https://www.civic.com/

[tententen]

There is a great development that can solve a lot of problems and can open the door to new features, I am trying to figure out if there is a way to build this feature.
The idea is to build an "hash" to identify a real person. There must be 3 property.

1) for every human must be a unique hash id
2) it is not possible to build this hash id without the real person ( it is not possible to build in an automatic way these id)
3) decentralized , without a certifier authority

For example a not working solution can be something related to the dna code , build an hash from the dna but violate the point 2 because is possible to build in automatic false hash id ...

Any idea for a solution?

yeah mate...ive got something. try a thumbprint

[a.denis1]

yeah mate...ive got something. try a thumbprint

it is possible to construct fake thumbprint by programs 

[a.denis1]

Civic token is looking like what you are saying even if it's not exactly the same: https://www.civic.com/

interesting anyway it is using a third party authority for certification so it is not really decentralized

[J-N]

For example a not working solution can be something related to the dna code , build an hash from the dna but violate the point 2 because is possible to build in automatic false hash id ...

Any idea for a solution?

I think the solution related to the DNA code might be combined with some unique information known by this human only.

[roger109]

DNA is the thing which is unique,we can use it to identify but how about accessing ,if someone can use our hair to use that DNA to unlock

[Heli42]

Hm, is not easy with the DNA

[ChazSchmidt]

This is an interesting concept but I can't think of a single truly unique quality that each human has that couldn't be faked. Fingerprints change, DNA is easily acquired, and recognition software can be tricked. Information is the only thing I can think of.

[bakerlisa510]

The idea is brilliant, you could use facial recognition function and biometric locks for unique I.D.

[Andre_Goldman]

We exist in a 4D space-time, I would go for something related to quasi-crystals ( a pattern that is periodic ) ...


quasi-crystals


El-Batanouny, M., & Wooten, F. (2008). Symmetry and condensed matter physics : A computational approach. Cambridge, UK ; New York: Cambridge University Press.

[a.denis1]

Thank you everybody for the effort.
I think it is a very powerful idea and we need to investigate trying to find a way, it is not easy.
I though about dna many times and a problem is that it is possible to contruct an algorithm to build fake dna ...
Another way of investigation can be a graph of social relations something like that but it seem not so promising ...
All ideas are welcome

[a.denis1]

We exist in a 4D space-time, I would go for something related to quasi-crystals ( a pattern that is periodic ) ...


quasi-crystals


El-Batanouny, M., & Wooten, F. (2008). Symmetry and condensed matter physics : A computational approach. Cambridge, UK ; New York: Cambridge University Press.

interesting can you shortly explain the main idea ? ( before reading the entire book )

[Andre_Goldman]

We exist in a 4D space-time, I would go for something related to quasi-crystals ( a pattern that is periodic ) ...


quasi-crystals


El-Batanouny, M., & Wooten, F. (2008). Symmetry and condensed matter physics : A computational approach. Cambridge, UK ; New York: Cambridge University Press.

interesting can you shortly explain the main idea ? ( before reading the entire book )

Well the general idea came from the movie, Interstellar - Quantifiable Connection Scene (please beware of **Spoiler Alert!**)

[sjyi]

There is a great development that can solve a lot of problems and can open the door to new features, I am trying to figure out if there is a way to build this feature.
The idea is to build an "hash" to identify a real person. There must be 3 property.
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What development, what problems and what benefits are you talking about?

I don't like the concept because it makes everyone traceable.  And then everything else about a person be traceable.  Financial transactions, events participation, traffic tickets, ...

You can make an argument for the unknown benefits of this concept, but the potential harm could be tremendous if the system allows its database (blocks) to be linked with other databases (many altcoins describe different features).  I'm sure there will be hacks/governments/merchants who want to take advantage of such information.

[AGD]

Since people need to prove, they are alive, this system will only be possible with a trusted third party to confirm without a doubt, that this DNA belongs to this very person, which always conflicts with point "3) decentralized , without a certifier authority"
There is no way out of this.

The rest is easy to achieve.

[Andre_Goldman]

Since people need to prove, they are alive, this system will only be possible with a trusted third party to confirm without a doubt, that this DNA belongs to this very person, which always conflicts with point "3) decentralized , without a certifier authority"
There is no way out of this.

The rest is easy to achieve.

Birthday Paradox isn't it ? well at the present moment this <-?> reminds me that loads of 80's snooze alarms clock had 10 minutes default thing ...

hash target net convergence ;-)

[monsterer2]

You need a self contained problem that only humans can solve, but that a computer can easily verify.