Which coins are really privacy and anonymous?

[AlexeyB]

Verge is one of the best anonymous coin in crypto world. If someone wanna to transfer any amount without leaving any track that user can use this gergous system for this purpose.

You should know:
http://xvg.keff.org/electrum.php
http://xvg.keff.org/core.php
http://xvg.keff.org/

[theguvner]

How about deeponion? Big community and very active developers, anyone tested?

[Zandar]

As long as you don't turn it into fiat your wallet stays anonymous, after that that wallet address can get linked to you. Blockchain info is still in its early development, as soon as the government has enough programs to be able to run a search etc it will become easy to see who has what.

[AlexeyB]

It is proved that KimJungUn is an incompetent scammer trying to mislead people: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2788384.msg28644538#msg28644538

I don't trust you or anyone else to keep my coins from being fungible.

If you evaluate a coin by subjective trust to people, rather than by objective technical characteristics, then only very stupid people will listen to you KimJungUn. Stop wasting our time.

[obit33]

If you evaluate a coin by subjective trust to people, rather than by objective technical characteristics, then only very stupid people will listen to you KimJungUn. Stop wasting our time.

Lol, says the one trusting persons to create an anonymous coin without any white paper or technical details whatsoever... up until now XPSEC is still total vapourware...  stop wasting our time

btw, big LOL at optional stealth addresses, optional privacy = no/bad privacy, see here: https://z.cash/blog/new-research-on-shielded-ecosystem.html

good luck hiding in plain sight

[obit33]

If you evaluate a coin by subjective trust to people, rather than by objective technical characteristics, then only very stupid people will listen to you KimJungUn. Stop wasting our time.

Lol, says the one trusting persons to create an anonymous coin without any white paper or technical details whatsoever... up until now XPSEC is still total vapourware...  stop wasting our time

Any scam coin always has white paper, but often does not have an open source code, just think about it  

There is open source code: https://github.com/spectrecoin/spectre
All the general information that is usually found in white paper - there is: https://altcoinwiki.org/en/SpectreCoin
There is an objective technically comparison with a description of the advantages of other coins: https://altcoinwiki.org/en/SpectreCoin#Comparison_with_other_coins

no it's not, stop deflecting, their big gig is anonymous staking, for which they have delivered no proof whatsoever, thus vapourware at the moment... I can only hope they pull it off, but the way they're handling things now, making promises without delivering any proof has me worried, that's all...

anyway, best of luck,
best regards

[TheHas]

While my technical understanding of how coins achieve privacy may be a bit light on in some areas, from my own research I think Zencash is a real privacy coin (or is at least working to become a legitimate and complete privacy coin).

Have a look at their website and blog - very active developers, with a solid background and understanding of the issues. They also have some great youtube clips to explain what they are doing and why. I think they are ahead of many competitors.

[ggameon]

rich list only in public adresses. Spectrecoin has stealth adresses too. Could you tell me how many coins i have? you are scam bro.

post your address pls. I'd really like to see the outcome. I though spec was private before this thread...

lol this is a discussion of football hooligans throwing trash at echother.

All 3 are private to a great degree. i own verge and still have a little monero . spectre is still in review lol
why would you throw trash at other coins, specially when you know yourself that you are a liar?!!!

Verge has improved privacy to a great extent, by their wraith protocol, they has even hired 3rd party audits to prove its effectiveness. I like the idea, but it is done to make some people who have money in other coins shut up and stop the idiotic stuff they say about this protocol not working properly.
Verge is going to make more changes  ( changing the blockchain for wraith..) we'll see what happens

Spectre has been out of my radar for a few week, but last time i checked it seemd to be a good coin.

[ggameon]

How about deeponion? Big community and very active developers, anyone tested?

Yeah but i think we are a bit late to that party lol

[KimJungUn]

Holy crap.  I feel bad for people that CAN'T read.  But I guess that's what you get with people that speak broken english.

You never answered my question.

XSPEC IS A SCAM = NOT PRIVATE = HAS PUBLIC RICHLIST = HAS LARGEST WALLET = 99% OF COINS IS OWNED BY 1000 WALLETS THAT ARE VIEWABLE.


Richlist
https://chainz.cryptoid.info/xspec/#!rich

Seriously.  It's not private, it's a misrepresentation and a scam to call it "private"

[KimJungUn]

Firstly, I don't trust "hsto.org"  A quick google search shows that it's a shady Russian website.

Secondly.  The address you provided again, doesn't show the address is actaully to be a verified one. I honestly feel bad for you if you are on the spectrum.  Assuming and knowing you are, you didn't answer any of my concerns that the address you provided actually has any coins in it or if it is actually a legit address

Thirdly, having optional stealth address doesn't make the coin private.  Privacy by default is the key feature here.  I can see wallets, I mean lets be honest if you're going to scam people at least block the wallets eh?

The top address (looking at the rich list, and largest wallets) 99% of the coins are held by 1000 people.  If that doesn't concern you, you are only spreading this scam.

XSPEC IS A SCAM = NOT PRIVATE

Don't keep misrepresenting and telling people that it's private.  You're scamming people for your "get rich quick" scheme.

[vovannovig2]

Tell us about your privacy and anonymous coin:
1. Write your stealth-address of the coin you want to talk about (from the wallet, but not from the block-explorer) and ask us to say how much money there is.
2. Write what are the approaches of privacy used in your coins to hide TX sender and receiver: Zero-knowledge proof, Mixing, Ring-signatures, Stealth-addresses, ...
3. Write what are the approaches of anonymity used in your coins to hide users IP: Tor, I2P, OBFS4, ...
4. Using http://matchcoins.info - write what price and ROI (at how many times will the price rise) is expected from your coin if it had a market capitalization as Monero or Verge.
5. Do not use richlist to compare privacy. For example, in the real privacy coin Monero is public blockchain:
 https://moneroexplorer.com/tx/84ea5936b2864709fe21ece3be8cb683d356f1f83cb5851ecbd4ee104012c583

stealth address: b5ada231ffb6e1a83430e038847e91e6d734d6bc58287b4e693f12823732f947   
amount: 5.532506139280 XMR

and if you create a richlist by ordering these addresses by the amounts - it's useless list, because richlist doesn't mean anything at all - addresses in the blockexplorer do not match the stealth-addresses in the wallets - therefore it is impossible to find Monero address from wallet in the block-explorer, you can't find in the blockexplorer this Monero address from the wallet: 4AYhVqhdEdkNSXT8UFjzAALAg4NMYURUjWdiNZCEzBTbWwkNXo1BTRCZzTcjYYDpdivhSUwG3kPV8hb T7vEzBgKRg4UW2b8z
Why is this happening: https://www.reddit.com/r/Monero/comments/70v9d7/if_monero_is_private_then_what_is_this_someone/


Bitcoin
You will write your Bitcoin-address here and I will tell you how much money is on it, because Bitcoin is not a privacy. It never hide the IP addresses of their nodes - Bitcoin is not a anonymous: https://bitnodes.earn.com/nodes/

Verge
Verge is allegedly privacy and anonymous coin - IP addresses, Verge-addresses, amounts - not privacy and not anonymous:
http://xvg.keff.org/electrum.php
http://xvg.keff.org/core.php
http://xvg.keff.org/

Monero
Have a public blockchain: https://moneroexplorer.com/tx/84ea5936b2864709fe21ece3be8cb683d356f1f83cb5851ecbd4ee104012c583

stealth address: b5ada231ffb6e1a83430e038847e91e6d734d6bc58287b4e693f12823732f947   
amount: 5.532506139280 XMR

To ensure that uneducated people are not called Monero "isn't privacy coin", its authors have removed a richlist that can exist (these addresses ordered by amounts), because this richlist does not mean anything at all.
Here is the Monero address: 4AYhVqhdEdkNSXT8UFjzAALAg4NMYURUjWdiNZCEzBTbWwkNXo1BTRCZzTcjYYDpdivhSUwG3kPV8hb T7vEzBgKRg4UW2b8z
How much money is there? Can not answer - means Monero is privacy (due stealth addresses).
Also Monero uses Ring-signatures to hide TX-sender - it makes transactions untraceable.
Run the script: https://github.com/DotNetRussell/MoneroUserScraper to obtain the IP addresses "213.114.82.127", "82.161.134.181", "73.150.225.122", ... the Monero wallets and nodes. Those that are constantly located are servers/pools/miners, which occasionally are wallets: https://dotnetrussell.com/index.php/2017/10/21/locating-monero-users-via-transaction-broadcasts/
Found the IP-addresses of members of the network Monero - is not anonymous.

Spectrecoin
Here is my Spectrecoin (XSPEC) Stealth-Address: smYoRN5Kna3jo3eeAnrqoDECzG59WDajtsNZHMGZEaA9sxEYwtQDZUnGBCKM5BmXBVU4K6vKH7b6s4X oNiV7yJB8vDkhzq6HjsfMbp
How much money is there? Can not answer - means that Spectrecion is privacy (due stealth addresses).
What IPs are used by people who use this coin? Can not answer - means that Spectrecion is anonymous (due Tor+OBFS4).
Spectrecoin uses Ring-signatures to hide TX-sender in the same way as Monero - it makes transactions untraceable.

What price and ROI (at how many times will the price rise) is expected if it had a market capitalization as Monero or Verge.
Monero - XSPEC = http://matchcoins.info/?c1=monero&c2=spectrecoin

Price of XSPEC, when XSPEC market cap reaches XMR market cap
(XMR Market Cap / XSPEC Market Cap * XSPEC price)
XSPEC = $ 257.60 (83.91x of actual XSPEC price)
0.0216251 BTC

Verge - XSPEC = http://matchcoins.info/?c1=verge&c2=spectrecoin

Price of XSPEC, when XSPEC market cap reaches XVG market cap
(XVG Market Cap / XSPEC Market Cap * XSPEC price)
XSPEC = $ 86.74 (28.25x of actual XSPEC price)
0.0072817 BTC

Other coins: https://hsto.org/webt/ff/fd/c5/fffdc5rsimcwozv65u9v21wwhyo.png

KimJungUn - I looked through the history of your messages. You write all about XSPEC and are always negative, I think that you want to buy a lot of coins at a low price - this is the reason for the flood that you are doing. But without realizing it, you are advertising the project, because everyone understands that the project is anonymous and dynamically developing, and all your claims are an insignificant attempt to manipulate the market. I want to wish you to become an honest person, all the best to you!

Thank you for your analysis.
Indeed the XSPEC looks like the most good investment project existing today.

[EinaiOraCoinDev]

GUYS, DO NOT LISTEN TO THIS THREAD.

He is only being paid in order to shill that shit of SPECTRECOIN.

the only replies that it got are about features of this coin that is being shilled in the entire forum. be careful.

[therulemaster]

I think anonymous is already enough for a coin, it's hard for a coin to be privacy when it was made with blockchain system. Everything shows up (except private key) is how the blockchain works.

[iwishicouldfly]

Firstly, I don't trust "hsto.org"  A quick google search shows that it's a shady Russian website.

Secondly.  The address you provided again, doesn't show the address is actaully to be a verified one. I honestly feel bad for you if you are on the spectrum.  Assuming and knowing you are, you didn't answer any of my concerns that the address you provided actually has any coins in it or if it is actually a legit address

Thirdly, having optional stealth address doesn't make the coin private.  Privacy by default is the key feature here.  I can see wallets, I mean lets be honest if you're going to scam people at least block the wallets eh?

The top address (looking at the rich list, and largest wallets) 99% of the coins are held by 1000 people.  If that doesn't concern you, you are only spreading this scam.

XSPEC IS A SCAM = NOT PRIVATE

Don't keep misrepresenting and telling people that it's private.  You're scamming people for your "get rich quick" scheme.

The public rich list and the fact that 99% of coins are held by the top 1000 (which is insane even by other crypto standards) are the reasons I sold my 1k xSpec when it dipped under 5 usd (to 4.5).  Won't be buying back in either unless some serious redistribution occurs.

[vovannovig2]

What are you talking about?
The author wrote the truth and it is easy to verify.
The fact that he writes KimJungUn, of course, is a lie. Everyone understands this.

[vovannovig2]

The public rich list and the fact that 99% of coins are held by the top 1000 (which is insane even by other crypto standards) are the reasons I sold my 1k xSpec when it dipped under 5 usd (to 4.5).  Won't be buying back in either unless some serious redistribution occurs.

Here's a look:
BitCloud

Code:

Top 1000	17,793,525 BTDX	99.97 %

   

BitSend

Code:

Top 1000	17,694,339 BSD	98.68 %

VeriCoin

Code:

Top 1000	30,210,364 VRC	98.25 %

Diamond

Code:

Top 1000	2,553,961 DMD	97.71 %

ColossusCoinXT

Code:

Top 1000	10,274,349,647 COLX  95.46 %

Groestlcoin

Code:

Top 1000	65,925,525 GRS	95.17 %

Particl

Code:

Top 1000	6,307,307 PART	94.52 %

BlackCoin

Code:

Top 1000	68,873,192 BLK	89.89 %

Stratis

Code:

Top 1000	87,350,923 STRAT	88.49 %

DigiByte

Code:

Top 1000	8,036,828,910 DGB	82.58 %

PURA

Code:

Top 1000	144,559,209 PURA	80.62 %

Litecoin - First edition = October 12, 2011 (The project is more than 6 years old !!!)

Code:

Top 1000	36,097,870 LTC	65.79 %

In general, it is necessary to understand that PoW projects - miners create new wallets during extraction.
PoS projects - store all your money in one purse to get more booty !!
Therefore, all POS-projects have a small number of wallets.


Now XSPEC  is the most attractive investment.

[AlexeyB]

Guys, please, write about other privacy and anonymous coins.
Show your addresses and tell us more about technologies of your favorite coins.

[Inkognito222]

Spectrecoin (XSPEC) really best privacy coin they give you full anonymous

[KimJungUn]

vovannovig2  and I read through your history.  You are shilling this shitcoin (SCAM) in multiple foreign languages.  All you do is shill this scam coin, and the only people that are actually shilling it, again, are people with the post history that contain broken English and only post about it.

This is not private, the stupidity and the misrepresentation and to call it a "privacy" coin is a lie.  The rich list shows that the top 1000 people own 99% of the coins.  How fucking absurd is that?  It's a blatant scam and a cash-grab by the devs to scam people. The fact that it even has a rich list basically proves that it's not a private coin.

XSPEC = SCAM