Which is more important to the government?

[TippingPoint]

The Obama administration earlier this month petitioned the Supreme Court in support of a federal court ruling that allowed police searches of cell phones records without a warrant.

They discovered that the Apple iPhone and iPad were recording user locations in a hidden file, detailing every step of their whereabouts and keeping a history of it for nearly a year.  Apple has since changed that policy.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/21/cell-phone-data-latest-threat-to-privacy/

Which is more important to the federal government?  Where you have been, or your Bitcoin transactions?

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[solex]

Both. It wants to know everything.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Whatever information they can get the more the better
Perhaps the next generation of Windows will come with Prism installed

[Ephebus]

Perhaps the next generation of Windows will come with Prism installed

It seems Big Brother beat you to it:

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279262.0

[Swordsoffreedom]

Perhaps the next generation of Windows will come with Prism installed

It seems Big Brother beat you to it:

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279262.0

Too bad people don't like Windows 8 and still use 7 then
And that sucks wonder how to delete the NSA virus

[AKCoins]

The Obama administration earlier this month petitioned the Supreme Court in support of a federal court ruling that allowed police searches of cell phones records without a warrant.

They discovered that the Apple iPhone and iPad were recording user locations in a hidden file, detailing every step of their whereabouts and keeping a history of it for nearly a year.  Apple has since changed that policy.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/08/21/cell-phone-data-latest-threat-to-privacy/

Which is more important to the federal government?  Where you have been, or your Bitcoin transactions?

Bitcoin is more important to the government. TAXES are the only thing the government cares about. You can't tax someone's location (although I wouldn't put it past the IRS), but you can most certainly try to tax their Bitcoin transactions.

[illpoet]

here in maryland they tax grocery bags and how much rain falls on your property.  they frickin love taxes!

[Carlton Banks]

Perhaps the next generation of Windows will come with Prism installed

It seems Big Brother beat you to it:

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279262.0

Too bad people don't like Windows 8 and still use 7 then
And that sucks wonder how to delete the NSA virus

Hyperboria or whatever else meshnet style tech. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274018.0

[bytemaster]

They most certainly tax your location... property taxes.   Most taxes are dependent upon your location ie: where you live.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Perhaps the next generation of Windows will come with Prism installed

It seems Big Brother beat you to it:

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279262.0

Too bad people don't like Windows 8 and still use 7 then
And that sucks wonder how to delete the NSA virus

Hyperboria or whatever else meshnet style tech. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274018.0

I'm not sure I completely understand how it works but if it works to prevent PRISM from working effectively in Windows then that's fine with me.
Thanks for the idea.

[Carlton Banks]

Perhaps the next generation of Windows will come with Prism installed

It seems Big Brother beat you to it:

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279262.0

Too bad people don't like Windows 8 and still use 7 then
And that sucks wonder how to delete the NSA virus

Hyperboria or whatever else meshnet style tech. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274018.0

I'm not sure I completely understand how it works but if it works to prevent PRISM from working effectively in Windows then that's fine with me.
Thanks for the idea.

You're facing other security issues with Windows, and it's worse than you can imagine. Don't delay, if you value your privacy, at the least get yourself onto noob-friendly Linux and don't look back. If you MUST use Windows for software package x, then use it offline. Windows, the internet and your privacy are not a reliable mix.

[Swordsoffreedom]

Perhaps the next generation of Windows will come with Prism installed

It seems Big Brother beat you to it:

http://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=279262.0

Too bad people don't like Windows 8 and still use 7 then
And that sucks wonder how to delete the NSA virus

Hyperboria or whatever else meshnet style tech. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=274018.0

I'm not sure I completely understand how it works but if it works to prevent PRISM from working effectively in Windows then that's fine with me.
Thanks for the idea.

You're facing other security issues with Windows, and it's worse than you can imagine. Don't delay, if you value your privacy, at the least get yourself onto noob-friendly Linux and don't look back. If you MUST use Windows for software package x, then use it offline. Windows, the internet and your privacy are not a reliable mix.

There are so many choices according to this site do you have any recommendations on a Linux client
https://prism-break.org/

[Carlton Banks]

There are so many choices according to this site do you have any recommendations on a Linux client
https://prism-break.org/

Well, noob-friendly would mean Linux Mint or Ubuntu. Then you've gotta choose which "desktop" version you want... gah, it's as if they don't want people to do it via giving them bewildering choices. Still, determined ship-jumper is determined...

Carlton Linux guide:

By "desktop", it means the whole graphical interface to the OS. Some are like Windows 7/Vista (Mate, Cinammon, KDE), some are more Windows 95-ish (Xfce, LXDE), others are more Apple Mac-esque (GNOME v.3). Use of the words "like", "-ish" and "-esque" are quite deliberate: don't expect anything identical and don't expect anything other than the interface itself to resemble those OS-es.

In my experience, Linux Mint is easiest to get installed and working on the widest variety of hardware (with the least post-dental appointment style sensations). Ubuntu is usually just as straightforward. Usually. You can also donate to the Linux Mint project in BTC, no other Linux distribution (read: version) currently accepts BTC donations. Don't wanna sound like a Mint shill though; the downside is that some of the plug-ins (mp3, Adobe Flash, probably a few video plug-ins) are NOT open source. This can make the more paranoid or the more ideological head for other distributions. You'll end up having hours of, shall we say "fun", getting either Debian or Fedora working if you want to be Mr. Open Source and Lord of Free Software. It can be done though, just expect pain.

Don't expect it to be as seamless as Windows, it's not. It can be very nearly as seamless, this depends alot on how well your brand of hardware has been tested.

Don't expect all your peripherals to work.

Do be pleasantly surprised when alot more works than you were expecting.

Do be pleased with the wide variety of stuff bundled for free that you'd pay for using Windows.

Do be pleased with all the things Linux does well that Windows can't even do.

Do be pleased with Linux bringing old machines (old like only 512 Mb of RAM) back to life, working like brand new.

[Swordsoffreedom]

There are so many choices according to this site do you have any recommendations on a Linux client
https://prism-break.org/

Well, noob-friendly would mean Linux Mint or Ubuntu. Then you've gotta choose which "desktop" version you want... gah, it's as if they don't want people to do it via giving them bewildering choices. Still, determined ship-jumper is determined...

Carlton Linux guide:

By "desktop", it means the whole graphical interface to the OS. Some are like Windows 7/Vista (Mate, Cinammon, KDE), some are more Windows 95-ish (Xfce, LXDE), others are more Apple Mac-esque (GNOME v.3). Use of the words "like", "-ish" and "-esque" are quite deliberate: don't expect anything identical and don't expect anything other than the interface itself to resemble those OS-es.

In my experience, Linux Mint is easiest to get installed and working on the widest variety of hardware (with the least post-dental appointment style sensations). Ubuntu is usually just as straightforward. Usually. You can also donate to the Linux Mint project in BTC, no other Linux distribution (read: version) currently accepts BTC donations. Don't wanna sound like a Mint shill though; the downside is that some of the plug-ins (mp3, Adobe Flash, probably a few video plug-ins) are NOT open source. This can make the more paranoid or the more ideological head for other distributions. You'll end up having hours of, shall we say "fun", getting either Debian or Fedora working if you want to be Mr. Open Source and Lord of Free Software. It can be done though, just expect pain.

Don't expect it to be as seamless as Windows, it's not. It can be very nearly as seamless, this depends alot on how well your brand of hardware has been tested.

Don't expect all your peripherals to work.

Do be pleasantly surprised when alot more works than you were expecting.

Do be pleased with the wide variety of stuff bundled for free that you'd pay for using Windows.

Do be pleased with all the things Linux does well that Windows can't even do.

Do be pleased with Linux bringing old machines (old like only 512 Mb of RAM) back to life, working like brand new.

Putting it on old PC's would make a 512 Mb of Ram computer shine again
And yes there were so many options, I guess that we are not alone in wanting to have privacy.
Nothing beats efficiency and unwanted observers.
Thanks for all the help.

As an aside, if a partition was made would it be as effective in case a peripheral is not working, or would Windows somehow invade.

[Lina.V]

It’s all just info on your behaviour, their interested in both. But I think Bitcoin is increasingly a priority for some agencies.

Ran across this the other day, http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/06/microsoft-programmed-in-nsa-backdoor-in-windows-by-1999.html

Linux! Linux! Linux! 

[TitanBTC]

It’s all just info on your behaviour, their interested in both. But I think Bitcoin is increasingly a priority for some agencies.

Ran across this the other day, http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2013/06/microsoft-programmed-in-nsa-backdoor-in-windows-by-1999.html

Linux! Linux! Linux! 

Are there any confirmed back doors like this in the Mac OS?  Most web developers I have worked with that don't use linux with VM are members of the cult of apple products.  They love to tout the "security" of the Lac OS.  I'd love to poke them in the ribs with this.

[rumbitla]

Obama loves spying on you. Most important.

[solex]

Obama loves spying on you. Most important.

[Carlton Banks]

There are so many choices according to this site do you have any recommendations on a Linux client
https://prism-break.org/

Well, noob-friendly would mean Linux Mint or Ubuntu. Then you've gotta choose which "desktop" version you want... gah, it's as if they don't want people to do it via giving them bewildering choices. Still, determined ship-jumper is determined...

Carlton Linux guide:

By "desktop", it means the whole graphical interface to the OS. Some are like Windows 7/Vista (Mate, Cinammon, KDE), some are more Windows 95-ish (Xfce, LXDE), others are more Apple Mac-esque (GNOME v.3). Use of the words "like", "-ish" and "-esque" are quite deliberate: don't expect anything identical and don't expect anything other than the interface itself to resemble those OS-es.

In my experience, Linux Mint is easiest to get installed and working on the widest variety of hardware (with the least post-dental appointment style sensations). Ubuntu is usually just as straightforward. Usually. You can also donate to the Linux Mint project in BTC, no other Linux distribution (read: version) currently accepts BTC donations. Don't wanna sound like a Mint shill though; the downside is that some of the plug-ins (mp3, Adobe Flash, probably a few video plug-ins) are NOT open source. This can make the more paranoid or the more ideological head for other distributions. You'll end up having hours of, shall we say "fun", getting either Debian or Fedora working if you want to be Mr. Open Source and Lord of Free Software. It can be done though, just expect pain.

Don't expect it to be as seamless as Windows, it's not. It can be very nearly as seamless, this depends alot on how well your brand of hardware has been tested.

Don't expect all your peripherals to work.

Do be pleasantly surprised when alot more works than you were expecting.

Do be pleased with the wide variety of stuff bundled for free that you'd pay for using Windows.

Do be pleased with all the things Linux does well that Windows can't even do.

Do be pleased with Linux bringing old machines (old like only 512 Mb of RAM) back to life, working like brand new.

Putting it on old PC's would make a 512 Mb of Ram computer shine again
And yes there were so many options, I guess that we are not alone in wanting to have privacy.
Nothing beats efficiency and unwanted observers.
Thanks for all the help.

As an aside, if a partition was made would it be as effective in case a peripheral is not working, or would Windows somehow invade.

Mmmm, I wouldn't run a dual-boot if security was the goal. Of course, only one partition can have it's OS boot at any one time, but then you've still got a Windows partition that the Linux partition cannot control when Windows is in charge (if malware or hacking happens to Windows partition, it could just as easily do it's worst to your sleeping Linux partition). Dual-boot would work with a tin-foil hat manual mechanism: two HDDs, one OS each. Physically remove the HD cables of the unused OS while you work with the other. It would get more and more fun each time you took the machine apart 

In all honesty, it's worth it if your old barcode scanner or sound card won't play ball, workaday office devices like printers are very well catered for when it comes to Linux drivers. You could even research the drivers beforehand, but that could be an overwhelming job, and your conclusion could easily be different to the eventual reality (some generic driver you never guessed on may get your device working)

[Swordsoffreedom]

There are so many choices according to this site do you have any recommendations on a Linux client
https://prism-break.org/

Well, noob-friendly would mean Linux Mint or Ubuntu. Then you've gotta choose which "desktop" version you want... gah, it's as if they don't want people to do it via giving them bewildering choices. Still, determined ship-jumper is determined...

Carlton Linux guide:

By "desktop", it means the whole graphical interface to the OS. Some are like Windows 7/Vista (Mate, Cinammon, KDE), some are more Windows 95-ish (Xfce, LXDE), others are more Apple Mac-esque (GNOME v.3). Use of the words "like", "-ish" and "-esque" are quite deliberate: don't expect anything identical and don't expect anything other than the interface itself to resemble those OS-es.

In my experience, Linux Mint is easiest to get installed and working on the widest variety of hardware (with the least post-dental appointment style sensations). Ubuntu is usually just as straightforward. Usually. You can also donate to the Linux Mint project in BTC, no other Linux distribution (read: version) currently accepts BTC donations. Don't wanna sound like a Mint shill though; the downside is that some of the plug-ins (mp3, Adobe Flash, probably a few video plug-ins) are NOT open source. This can make the more paranoid or the more ideological head for other distributions. You'll end up having hours of, shall we say "fun", getting either Debian or Fedora working if you want to be Mr. Open Source and Lord of Free Software. It can be done though, just expect pain.

Don't expect it to be as seamless as Windows, it's not. It can be very nearly as seamless, this depends alot on how well your brand of hardware has been tested.

Don't expect all your peripherals to work.

Do be pleasantly surprised when alot more works than you were expecting.

Do be pleased with the wide variety of stuff bundled for free that you'd pay for using Windows.

Do be pleased with all the things Linux does well that Windows can't even do.

Do be pleased with Linux bringing old machines (old like only 512 Mb of RAM) back to life, working like brand new.

Putting it on old PC's would make a 512 Mb of Ram computer shine again
And yes there were so many options, I guess that we are not alone in wanting to have privacy.
Nothing beats efficiency and unwanted observers.
Thanks for all the help.

As an aside, if a partition was made would it be as effective in case a peripheral is not working, or would Windows somehow invade.

Mmmm, I wouldn't run a dual-boot if security was the goal. Of course, only one partition can have it's OS boot at any one time, but then you've still got a Windows partition that the Linux partition cannot control when Windows is in charge (if malware or hacking happens to Windows partition, it could just as easily do it's worst to your sleeping Linux partition). Dual-boot would work with a tin-foil hat manual mechanism: two HDDs, one OS each. Physically remove the HD cables of the unused OS while you work with the other. It would get more and more fun each time you took the machine apart  

In all honesty, it's worth it if your old barcode scanner or sound card won't play ball, workaday office devices like printers are very well catered for when it comes to Linux drivers. You could even research the drivers beforehand, but that could be an overwhelming job, and your conclusion could easily be different to the eventual reality (some generic driver you never guessed on may get your device working)

The Windows portion I hope is napping but you never know what it might be doing. Like Windows Updates go away for a while and the computer restarts eventually when your not watching, or worst the NSA. But that would be bad if it can get to the linux side through the windows partition. The security measures would be in vain.

I was thinking that keeping the Windows part in a Sandbox where windows can play all day with itself and not be able to invade the other side might work. Give it a timeout it can only invade its sandbox
In theory
But taking out the cables sounds smarter no secret program or hackers invading my linux sort of like a spy vs the spy commander.

Good idea to research best drivers before hand, finding people who know what to ask about is the interesting idea, there must be a place somewhere for people who think the same ideas and or people who already do this.