(ANN)(PRERELEASE) - parabolas - launching with pools, faucets-YOU can contribute

[x^2]

Shoot me a PM when you think Parabolas are ready for an exchange. I can pull some strings

Thanks!  Will do.

[ranmn7]

watch

[GoldBit89]

reserved

[ZirconiumX]

You mean like this?

Matthew:out

May I be a contributor?  My username is Smeagol-Gollum on github.

Edit:  I submitted a couple of pull requests, you should see me now!

Merged.

Matthew:out

Seriously, forum? I post three times in a row and it still doesn't accept the post  

I will download the repo and do a find and replace from bitcoin to parabola

Hmm.  I tried to submit a pull request to merge but instead I just forked it onto my account.  (here: https://github.com/Smeagol-Gollum/parabola)
All the names are changed.  If you can, please download the .zip and add it to your repository!  I don't know how to merge them.

Merge conflict.

Given the blatant find and replace, I did it manually. This does throw all of your commits off track of the master, so the best thing to do would be revert them, then do a fresh pull on master.

Matthew:out

[x^2]

I'm bumping for services and devs.  Remember, if you contribute you will be given a share of the 5% dev fund.

[ZirconiumX]

One thing I've realised. All of the AES candidates are based around encryption from a key. If we go for a quark-style hash system, then if we are being secure, we need 14 different keys.

Something for donators to suggest?

Matthew:out

[smeagol]

One thing I've realised. All of the AES candidates are based around encryption from a key. If we go for a quark-style hash system, then if we are being secure, we need 14 different keys.

Something for donators to suggest?

Matthew:out

Are we doing the random hashing algos too? (like first sha, then whirlpool, then md5, then random, then random again)

[x^2]

One thing I've realised. All of the AES candidates are based around encryption from a key. If we go for a quark-style hash system, then if we are being secure, we need 14 different keys.

Something for donators to suggest?

Matthew:out

Should I start a donation fund?

[ZirconiumX]

One thing I've realised. All of the AES candidates are based around encryption from a key. If we go for a quark-style hash system, then if we are being secure, we need 14 different keys.

Something for donators to suggest?

Matthew:out

Should I start a donation fund?

If you want to. I'm not forcing you to.

One thing I've realised. All of the AES candidates are based around encryption from a key. If we go for a quark-style hash system, then if we are being secure, we need 14 different keys.

Something for donators to suggest?

Matthew:out

Are we doing the random hashing algos too? (like first sha, then whirlpool, then md5, then random, then random again)

As far as I can work out, each pass of Quark's "random hashing" simply checks whether the least significant 3 bits in the second most significant 32-bit word are zero. If they are, then it runs one hashing algo, else, it runs a different one. It screws PGO massively.

I like your idea, but I think we can make a different scheme which makes optimisation even more awkward.

Some pseudocode:

Code:

void Hash(int* input, int* output)
{
   imt mask = 8;
   int i = 0;

   for (; i < 8; i++) {
      switch (input[5] & 8) {
      case 0:
         Rijndael(input, input);
      case 1:
         Square(input, input);
      case 2:
         Serpent(input, input);
         break;
      case 3:
         RC6(input, input);
      case 4:
         MARS(input, input);
      case 5:
         Twofish(input, input);
         break;
      case 6:
         Twofish(input, input);
      case 7:
         Rotate256(input, input, 3);
   }

    memcpy(...);
}

That ought to make GPU mining difficult. With up to 24 rounds of pseudorandom hashing algos, and a rotate in there for good measure, it may well make CPU mining difficult, too.

Matthew:out

[Lauda]

Just make sure that a GPU miner can't be made easily. *Points at XPM*

[x^2]

Just make sure that a GPU miner can't be made easily. *Points at XPM*

Nice, this is turning out quite well!  Thank you to all for your support!

I was just wondering if there was a way to implement the "parabola" part!

[smeagol]

https://github.com/ZirconiumX/parabola/blob/master/client/src/hash.cpp

Looking around the code, maybe this will help?

[x^2]

op updated

[theprofileth]

Have you considered adding proof of stake to help further secure the network?
Also why not add in parabolic difficulty adjustments done on a per block basis coupled with a parabolic reward to stifle instant mining.

[ZirconiumX]

Have you considered adding proof of stake to help further secure the network?
Also why not add in parabolic difficulty adjustments done on a per block basis coupled with a parabolic reward to stifle instant mining.

My family has an expression: "First get something that works, then get something that works well."

We have currently got nothing more than a bitcoin clone at the moment. We haven't even worked out how to change the block magic number yet.

When we get a testnet up and running, then we'll think about things like PoS.

Matthew:out

[smeagol]

Have you considered adding proof of stake to help further secure the network?
Also why not add in parabolic difficulty adjustments done on a per block basis coupled with a parabolic reward to stifle instant mining.

My family has an expression: "First get something that works, then get something that works well."

We have currently got nothing more than a bitcoin clone at the moment. We haven't even worked out how to change the block magic number yet.

When we get a testnet up and running, then we'll think about things like PoS.

Matthew:out

This helped me a lot!
https://andarazoroflove.org/how-to-create-alt-coin-scrypt-clones-for-fun-and-profit-bitcoin-litecoin-secrets-exposed/

[theprofileth]

Why would you fork it from bitcoin if you are considering using multiple hashing algorithms to help secure the coin? Might as well fork from Quark or Secure Coin.

[ZirconiumX]

Why would you fork it from bitcoin if you are considering using multiple hashing algorithms to help secure the coin? Might as well fork from Quark or Secure Coin.

Because we'd rather be a fork, than a fork of a fork of a fork.

That's the *actual* reason.

Bitcoin's codebase is more modern, anyway.

Matthew:out

[x^2]

We've got an exchange and pool committee, anyone up for a faucet or store?

Also we might get coinpayments to accept us.

[smeagol]

Why would you fork it from bitcoin if you are considering using multiple hashing algorithms to help secure the coin? Might as well fork from Quark or Secure Coin.

Because we'd rather be a fork, than a fork of a fork of a fork.

That's the *actual* reason.

Bitcoin's codebase is more modern, anyway.

Matthew:out

We could look at Freicoin.  Apparently the demmurage goes back to the foundation (which, in this case, would be us)