Cryptoskill - Realtime multiplayer Rock Paper Scissors

[Ranly123]

This is an interesting new game in gambling. Though he answered the first question of how do we know if we are truly playing against other player or are we only playing against their team. My doubt was always be there as long as no other users can prove that they really played as pvp and not against bot.

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[doge10x]

This is an interesting new game in gambling. Though he answered the first question of how do we know if we are truly playing against other player or are we only playing against their team. My doubt was always be there as long as no other users can prove that they really played as pvp and not against bot.

Good point, PVP games are very hard to verify

[Cryptoskill]

Always good to see fresh new games around here, and PvP ones are even better.

Are there any plans to add further PvP games to the platform? Perhaps ones with a bigger skill curve, e.g. PvP poker 

We are currently creating a new game that we think will have a much bigger impact than rock paper scissors (hopefully it will). It will be way more fun and yes, there's a bugger skill curve.
We'll post it in this forum section when it's ready

This is an interesting new game in gambling. Though he answered the first question of how do we know if we are truly playing against other player or are we only playing against their team. My doubt was always be there as long as no other users can prove that they really played as pvp and not against bot.

Good point, PVP games are very hard to verify

Indeed it's not the most simple of tasks. One way to do it would be to implement some kind of recaptcha to filter out bots, but even then, we could bypass this by adding some kind of secret button or something like that.
We are still exploring our options and we're trying to figure out what is the best way of tackling this. For the time being, we can only say that all information is encrypted right up to the moment when both players have played. This is done not only to prevent our team from cheating, but also to prevent any malicious user who has acquired database access (through legitimate or illegitimate means).

[Bitinity]

This is an interesting new game in gambling. Though he answered the first question of how do we know if we are truly playing against other player or are we only playing against their team. My doubt was always be there as long as no other users can prove that they really played as pvp and not against bot.

As long as the game is provably fair where the owner is unable to manipulate the result then it is not a big problem if players are playing against the owner/team of the site as well as against bot. The most important thing is the result imho, if you can verify the result then it is enough. It is normal when the team open some game on the site so players can play the game without waiting for other real players. It is one of the ways to attract players, as if there is no open game on the site then people who visit it for the first time will be doubt to come back.

[bering]

Not all gamblers liked PvP games and sometimes PvP gambling sites will eventually lack of interest because there is no player to playing however i just looking around the site and i can see your site accepting btc and LTC as the coins for deposit and withdraw but i could not find any informations regarding minimum amount to deposit for these coin

[Ucy]

Rock Paper Scissors sounds like a game I watched kids play on youtube with their hands.  Who is this targeted at by the way? Adult or kids? Will adults even like it? In my opinion, it could attract lots of kids and get them addicted... A bad idea if this's targeted at them. I guess you'll have to demand for personal identity for aqe qualifications before allowing anyone to play.

Are you out of your mind? Asking personal identity before you would able to play? that isnt the thing that most gamblers do like here on crypto.
If there are verifications or inputs on what would be their age then it can be simply bypassed yet this cant really be stopped minors if they wanted to play.
Of course this doesnt target kids but adults on this kind of game.

You think it's not a good idea?

Well, i think it will eventually be necessary to bring the age verification things into Crypto-gambling world. Kids are normally not allowed to gamble in most places (even with the anonymity of fiats) for good . They usually act on impulses and can get easily addicted. Hopefully, the gambling world could find a way around this without compromising on anonymity

[panjul07]

Not all gamblers liked PvP games and sometimes PvP gambling sites will eventually lack of interest because there is no player to playing however i just looking around the site and i can see your site accepting btc and LTC as the coins for deposit and withdraw but i could not find any informations regarding minimum amount to deposit for these coin

Yap there is no information about it although I visit the website with an account, I cant find FAQ page as well but I see something like "0.5% bla bla bla..." under the deposit option.
Forget the complete information on that 0.5%, wondering what is that and why it is under the deposit. Is it like a deposit fee? I'm trying to login again now but it is under maintenance. "Server in maintenance"

[ultrloa]

Rock Paper Scissors sounds like a game I watched kids play on youtube with their hands.  Who is this targeted at by the way? Adult or kids? Will adults even like it? In my opinion, it could attract lots of kids and get them addicted... A bad idea if this's targeted at them. I guess you'll have to demand for personal identity for aqe qualifications before allowing anyone to play.

Are you out of your mind? Asking personal identity before you would able to play? that isnt the thing that most gamblers do like here on crypto.
If there are verifications or inputs on what would be their age then it can be simply bypassed yet this cant really be stopped minors if they wanted to play.
Of course this doesnt target kids but adults on this kind of game.

You think it's not a good idea?

Well, i think it will eventually be necessary to bring the age verification things into Crypto-gambling world. Kids are normally not allowed to gamble in most places (even with the anonymity of fiats) for good . They usually act on impulses and can get easily addicted. Hopefully, the gambling world could find a way around this without compromising on anonymity

It depends on what site are we talking about since if they have a license to operate well those things are pretty much necessary to do so that they have a protection for the kids so that they will be away for some exploit and other danger beneath the gambling addiction. But I would like to see more from this since I like the concept but the site is pretty much questionable for now.

[ultrloa]

Rock Paper Scissors sounds like a game I watched kids play on youtube with their hands.  Who is this targeted at by the way? Adult or kids? Will adults even like it? In my opinion, it could attract lots of kids and get them addicted... A bad idea if this's targeted at them. I guess you'll have to demand for personal identity for aqe qualifications before allowing anyone to play.

Are you out of your mind? Asking personal identity before you would able to play? that isnt the thing that most gamblers do like here on crypto.
If there are verifications or inputs on what would be their age then it can be simply bypassed yet this cant really be stopped minors if they wanted to play.
Of course this doesnt target kids but adults on this kind of game.

You think it's not a good idea?

Well, i think it will eventually be necessary to bring the age verification things into Crypto-gambling world. Kids are normally not allowed to gamble in most places (even with the anonymity of fiats) for good . They usually act on impulses and can get easily addicted. Hopefully, the gambling world could find a way around this without compromising on anonymity

Well it will never be a good idea to give your details for something's that you are not sure with but if this one created for the child protection maybe it's really necessary to implement that to this site nor good to see this one the other to so that kids will be away for exploit and other abuse from gambling, but for now I will not give any details if the site is new the same on this site since they need to fix the missing information in the FAQ before the people will trust them.

[Cryptoskill]

It is normal when the team open some game on the site so players can play the game without waiting for other real players. It is one of the ways to attract players, as if there is no open game on the site then people who visit it for the first time will be doubt to come back.

We are exploring the options to create a bot that plays against players if they wait more than a given amount of seconds. This bot would have to implement a provably fair algorithm and we are thinking about using a blockchain with fast block times, like Ripple, and using the block's hash as a seed for the random selection of hands. Users could easily verify that the next block's hash right after their play was used as the seed for the bot's random number generator.

Not all gamblers liked PvP games and sometimes PvP gambling sites will eventually lack of interest because there is no player to playing however i just looking around the site and i can see your site accepting btc and LTC as the coins for deposit and withdraw but i could not find any informations regarding minimum amount to deposit for these coin

There is the possible scenario where we won't get many users due to several reasons. Either way, we are going to try our luck and hopefully you all enjoy it

i just looking around the site and i can see your site accepting btc and LTC as the coins for deposit and withdraw but i could not find any informations regarding minimum amount to deposit for these coin

Yap there is no information about it although I visit the website with an account, I cant find FAQ page as well but I see something like "0.5% bla bla bla..." under the deposit option.
Forget the complete information on that 0.5%, wondering what is that and why it is under the deposit. Is it like a deposit fee? I'm trying to login again now but it is under maintenance. "Server in maintenance"

There is no minimum withdraw, but the users pays the tx fee for some coins and a 0.5% fee due to the payment gateway that is being used. These coins do not go to us, they go the the payment provider that we are currently using.
We should clarify this a bit more in the FAQ and in the deposit/withdraw dialogs.
As for the "under maintenance" message, our cloud provided reserved a few minutes to do a health check on the servers. Everything should be back now

Well, i think it will eventually be necessary to bring the age verification things into Crypto-gambling world. Kids are normally not allowed to gamble in most places (even with the anonymity of fiats) for good . They usually act on impulses and can get easily addicted. Hopefully, the gambling world could find a way around this without compromising on anonymity

Well it will never be a good idea to give your details for something's that you are not sure with but if this one created for the child protection maybe it's really necessary to implement that to this site nor good to see this one the other to so that kids will be away for exploit and other abuse from gambling, but for now I will not give any details if the site is new the same on this site since they need to fix the missing information in the FAQ before the people will trust them.

Even if you forbid kids from playing games, they still do it. By getting a fake ID or use their parent's or friend's. All we can do is setup warning about underage players or apply strict verifications.
Currently we don't see the "strict" way as an option, at least for now, as it increases the time and complexity between the user creating and account and actually playing the game. Since we are just starting, we want this to be as fast as possible.
But yes, we will update the FAQ with information regarding underage restrictions. That's the direction we'll take for now.

But I would like to see more from this since I like the concept but the site is pretty much questionable for now.

Please ask any doubts that you might have
If it's about the fairness of future bots, we are choosing the best option for our current situation.
If you have a recommendation, please tell us, we appreciate all your feedback.


Thank you all for your posts

[shield132]

Wow, pretty impressive, I liked the game very much and seems playing it online is more fun than playing it in real life, at least your website proved like that for me. Can you spoil us what will be the next game? I suggest you to add games like soccer where 1 player kicks the ball and 2nd one catches, then they swipe the roles, I guess you understand what I meant. Also change website's template to attract more people, game's UI is nice, just design needs to be improved. Do you plan to add affiliate on your website?

[dark08]

Good concept I remember the day when wap forum was popular it has a rock paper scissor games also a PVP but the disadvantages of multiplayer if thers no online player you cannot play the game.
But I'm happy that you will create a bot that play to the player but how can we assure that this bot is 100% fair?.

[Cryptoskill]

Wow, pretty impressive, I liked the game very much and seems playing it online is more fun than playing it in real life, at least your website proved like that for me. Can you spoil us what will be the next game? I suggest you to add games like soccer where 1 player kicks the ball and 2nd one catches, then they swipe the roles, I guess you understand what I meant. Also change website's template to attract more people, game's UI is nice, just design needs to be improved. Do you plan to add affiliate on your website?

Thanks for the feedback shield123. 

The next games will be a PvP multiplayer like this one, but players need to have considerably more skills to play and strategies to win the game compared to rock paper scissors.
Thanks for the feedback, what do you recommend to change in the design ?
Also, affiliate is something that we will implement in the (maybe, near) future

Good concept I remember the day when wap forum was popular it has a rock paper scissor games also a PVP but the disadvantages of multiplayer if thers no online player you cannot play the game.
But I'm happy that you will create a bot that play to the player but how can we assure that this bot is 100% fair?.

We are studying the current ways to make the bot provably fair. One way to do it is by using the block hashes from a blockchain with small block times like Ripple or EOS as the seed for our random number generator.
The block's hash used should be the one that was generated right after the user played. This way, the seed is out of our control and thus, provably fair.
User can also verify this by going to the block explorer of said blockchain and checking the result after using our PRNG with the hash.

[sunsilk]

This game made me remember my childhood days as we play this game but small time bets for kids like candies, chocolates and other stuffs that a kid will have. It's really a nice thing to see that we have games like this and don't you have plan to add an Ai if ever there's a time a user plays and there's no other player around?

Also, I've checked out your website but says your server is in maintenance. I'll try the demo play if it gets back to normal.

[AmoreJaz]

Wow, pretty impressive, I liked the game very much and seems playing it online is more fun than playing it in real life, at least your website proved like that for me. Can you spoil us what will be the next game? I suggest you to add games like soccer where 1 player kicks the ball and 2nd one catches, then they swipe the roles, I guess you understand what I meant. Also change website's template to attract more people, game's UI is nice, just design needs to be improved. Do you plan to add affiliate on your website?

Thanks for the feedback shield123. 

The next games will be a PvP multiplayer like this one, but players need to have considerably more skills to play and strategies to win the game compared to rock paper scissors.
Thanks for the feedback, what do you recommend to change in the design ?
Also, affiliate is something that we will implement in the (maybe, near) future

Good concept I remember the day when wap forum was popular it has a rock paper scissor games also a PVP but the disadvantages of multiplayer if thers no online player you cannot play the game.
But I'm happy that you will create a bot that play to the player but how can we assure that this bot is 100% fair?.

We are studying the current ways to make the bot provably fair. One way to do it is by using the block hashes from a blockchain with small block times like Ripple or EOS as the seed for our random number generator.
The block's hash used should be the one that was generated right after the user played. This way, the seed is out of our control and thus, provably fair.
User can also verify this by going to the block explorer of said blockchain and checking the result after using our PRNG with the hash.

also if you can add doge in your list of crypto, aside from btc, ltc, ltct. there are a lot of players that are more comfortable in using their doge. the tx fee is quite low also.
i am seeing that youre active in addressing the suggestions of the users here, thats a good one! hope you will continue this attitude so you can get the pulse of the players in this community...

[Renampun]

I tried the demo version for 10 minutes and I think it's a bit fair. 
in the future, you should add more games to this site to attract more users into the site.

[panjul07]

I tried the demo version for 10 minutes and I think it's a bit fair. 
in the future, you should add more games to this site to attract more users into the site.

A bit fair? Would you mind to explain about this with more details? I do not really get what you mean by "a bit fair".
Since this site is focusing on muliplayer skill based game where the game is player vs player, better to focus on this first game first.
Adding new games need more money to execute especially if the new games are vs house games.

[sunsilk]

I tried the demo version for 10 minutes and I think it's a bit fair. 
in the future, you should add more games to this site to attract more users into the site.

I've tried it too now that it's back online.

I know this is just a demo version but it seems that I only won few times out of those more than ten plays that I've made. Did somebody already played the game with their real deposits? Looks like the latest games came from the testing of op.

[Ahimoth]

Good concept I remember the day when wap forum was popular it has a rock paper scissor games also a PVP but the disadvantages of multiplayer if thers no online player you cannot play the game.
But I'm happy that you will create a bot that play to the player but how can we assure that this bot is 100% fair?.

I don't think this bot will be fair at constant performance, there's always a discrepancy along the period of playing activities. Somehow the advantage might be felts comfortable, but we need to become more responsible so in learning to play the gambling process should be learn as if no bots at all is involved.

[Cryptoskill]

This game made me remember my childhood days as we play this game but small time bets for kids like candies, chocolates and other stuffs that a kid will have. It's really a nice thing to see that we have games like this and don't you have plan to add an Ai if ever there's a time a user plays and there's no other player around?

Also, I've checked out your website but says your server is in maintenance. I'll try the demo play if it gets back to normal.

Thanks for the feedback, in the future we'll add a provably fair bot to guarantee fairness to our users.

also if you can add doge in your list of crypto, aside from btc, ltc, ltct. there are a lot of players that are more comfortable in using their doge. the tx fee is quite low also.
i am seeing that youre active in addressing the suggestions of the users here, thats a good one! hope you will continue this attitude so you can get the pulse of the players in this community...

Thanks for the feedback, We will consider your opinion of implementing dodge.

I tried the demo version for 10 minutes and I think it's a bit fair. 
in the future, you should add more games to this site to attract more users into the site.

This is a multiplayer game where you play against other players. In the future we will present new games where you need skill and strategy to win. Thanks for the feedback Renampun.

A bit fair? Would you mind to explain about this with more details? I do not really get what you mean by "a bit fair".
Since this site is focusing on muliplayer skill based game where the game is player vs player, better to focus on this first game first.
Adding new games need more money to execute especially if the new games are vs house games.

Nice response, developing new games requires more money. This is our first one to have a first impression of users playing multiplayers games.

I've tried it too now that it's back online.

I know this is just a demo version but it seems that I only won few times out of those more than ten plays that I've made. Did somebody already played the game with their real deposits? Looks like the latest games came from the testing of op.

The demo version doesn't interact with real plays, the demo is just so users can test the game and see how it works. By doing the login and deposit some coins, or just test with LTCT coin, you can see the latest games on scoreboard.

I don't think this bot will be fair at constant performance, there's always a discrepancy along the period of playing activities. Somehow the advantage might be felts comfortable, but we need to become more responsible so in learning to play the gambling process should be learn as if no bots at all is involved.

Yes the player should always be responsible. We'll do our best to make the bot as fair a possible.