Reputation damaged at my second account

[BitcoinSupremo]

To make my story short here is my full story.

In 2016 I was exposed by a forum user to have 4 accounts and I confirmed both 4 accounts were mine.
Main account this one
2.smho_16 I have left it asleep and will not use it again
3. zend7 I have left it asleep and will not use it again
4. Cereberus , this account was tagged by The Pharmacist because I was bidding to increase my post count in auctions (yes I did that as it was allowed back then) ,

For now I see many respectable members of the community has 2 accounts both enrolled in signature campaigns. What I want is the negative feedback to be removed based on my post history of Cereberus account. If you see it has helped a ton of members in the Altcoin section and I would love to have my trust to neutral as I want to be enrolled in signature campaigns, bitcoin or altcoin. I take note to say that post quality is excellent as you can check yourself and that I have been enrolled in different signature campaigns  before with great managers like Yahoo, aTriz, guitarplinker , Wapinter etc.

I take courage of not being afraid to write here what I believe is my right to do so.

If people want me to nuke zend7 and smho_16 I will do so immediately , just tell me how to. I just want to be with my 2 accounts like many other people here and have a chance to help the community ( I am a great rig builder, tester, troubleshooter) if I will be given the chance.

These are my only accounts, all other accusation from Timelord are not founded and there is not a single connection between them.

Thanks for reading everyone.

[marlboroza]

To make my story short here is my full story.

In 2016 I was exposed by a forum user to have 4 accounts and I confirmed both 4 accounts were mine.
Main account this one
2.smho_16 I have left it asleep and will not use it again
3. zend7 I have left it asleep and will not use it again
4. Cereberus , this account was tagged by The Pharmacist because I was bidding to increase my post count in auctions (yes I did that as it was allowed back then) ,

For now I see many respectable members of the community has 2 accounts both enrolled in signature campaigns. What I want is the negative feedback to be removed based on my post history of Cereberus account. If you see it has helped a ton of members in the Altcoin section and I would love to have my trust to neutral as I want to be enrolled in signature campaigns, bitcoin or altcoin. I take note to say that post quality is excellent as you can check yourself and that I have been enrolled in different signature campaigns  before with great managers like Yahoo, aTriz, guitarplinker , Wapinter etc.

I take courage of not being afraid to write here what I believe is my right to do so.

If people want me to nuke zend7 and smho_16 I will do so immediately , just tell me how to. I just want to be with my 2 accounts like many other people here and have a chance to help the community ( I am a great rig builder, tester, troubleshooter) if I will be given the chance.

These are my only accounts, all other accusation from Timelord are not founded and there is not a single connection between them.

Thanks for reading everyone.

First you said accounts are not yours, then you said accounts are yours.
Now you are saying

I was bidding to increase my post count in auctions

And back then you said:

I have the accounts smho_16, zend7 and Cereberus. Yes I bought them to enter in signature campaigns

These are my only accounts, all other accusation from Timelord are not founded and there is not a single connection between them.

[BitcoinSupremo]

Accounts are mine, only these 4, I am not using 2 since a really long time and was using only my actual account which is my main one now and Cereberus. Which part don't you understand ?

All others are not mine although of the accusation from Timelord.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

I'm interested in hearing what other members have to say about this, but I'm not committing to changing any feedback.  I tagged you twice for account dealing.

In my mind it does not bode well for a person when they basically scream "I'm being honest here!", as it makes me think that said honesty is 1) Not a usual thing with the person, or 2) A cover for a larger dishonesty.  And in this case, I smell something fishy.  But if any trusted members have any input into this matter, I'd be happy to listen.

OP, I got your PM so there's no need to keep sending any.  We'll do any talking right here, out in the open.

Edit:  Looking at Timelord's thread...it looks like you straight-out lied about Cerebrus not being an alt.  I'm glad if you're helping noobs or whatever, but it appears you have a toxic relationship with the truth.  And you bid in somebody's auction with a false bid just to increase your post count.

[marlboroza]

Accounts are mine, only these 4, I am not using 2 since a really long time and was using only my actual account which is my main one now and Cereberus. Which part don't you understand ?

Dude you said you were bidding to increase post count and you did it with bought account.
Excuse me for asking, but you said 4 accounts...

All others are not mine although of the accusation from Timelord.

...and this looks like solid connection:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg16174365#msg16174365
Which is also negative tagged for account sales.
Makes me wonder...

[BitcoinSupremo]

I'm interested in hearing what other members have to say about this, but I'm not committing to changing any feedback.  I tagged you twice for account dealing.

In my mind it does not bode well for a person when they basically scream "I'm being honest here!", as it makes me think that said honesty is 1) Not a usual thing with the person, or 2) A cover for a larger dishonesty.  And in this case, I smell something fishy.  But if any trusted members have any input into this matter, I'd be happy to listen.

OP, I got your PM so there's no need to keep sending any.  We'll do any talking right here, out in the open.

Great then, I have nothing to hide too. Been here for many years without scamming someone and minding my own business. There is a whole lot of post history to confirm this. I sent the PM because the feedback was very old and was active only because you had become DT member. Congrats for that but I don't agree being tagged in red after I have made a name for myself in the Altcoin section by helping countless persons there with their rigs (just check post history of Cereberus as I said in PM).

[marlboroza]

I have nothing to hide too.

I don't think so.

Been here for many years without scamming someone and minding my own business.

Account Cereberus was connected with account pbitcoin here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg16174365#msg16174365 but that is actually irrelevant.

Account smho_16 was connected with accounts horace0812, betohell here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg18221475#msg18221475

Account betohell was connected with accounts diodio5 , ajun96 , NinjaSkills , MTBTT , betohell , blackmachinegun , adjie14 , dwihananto , DeDordtenaar , uname , kostya.ash , Alvin Fahriza ,CryptoSkills , joinal here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg17027865#msg17027865

Account diodio5 was connected to well known scammer dio, hothtszho, Engg.Akrepi, hosumfu, louise123e,  yingbb0301, sun64986161, kenshi222, williamho, diodio1, retes1234, kovaa, summer11, bank2, banklunjo, retes4321, diodio5, godzerosonic, retes43210, retes12345, Engg.Chaks, y02723942001, sun64986, yinghacked, summer111,  summer116, Deacidifyingbbas, sorlunjo,  kenshi2121, kenshin77, kenshin_8513,  d161616, Engg.Chalks.Returns,  chakchaks here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1275297.msg17059136#msg17059136

This https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1925386.0 makes more sense now.

~snip~
A cover for a larger dishonesty.  And in this case, I smell something fishy.
~snip~

Well, when you put all connections together...

[BitcoinSupremo]

First I don't know whose alt you are but don't be afraid come talk with your main account like I am doing without being afraid, from posting to gambling section you come here and try to bash me without evidence.

128qQdA89Gwv3RpwaaeZziRKYSxk2u9tPA

This is the address I first used at the forum, this is also the one who was exposed by a forum member in Timelord thread in 2016, you can check it in wallet explorer, it will link my only 4 accounts. Other than that you can make as many connections as you like, they have not valid proofs or foundation.

If your plan is to get me negative trust you will not achieve anything, as my priority now is building mining rigs which I have a lot of them and not signature campaigns. I am making 0.006-0075 with this account in the signature I am in.

While I make daily:
https://www.nicehash.com/miner/1KEe2CG6YEYAGQ8GjnKDyh6ATF4EA5hoxp

This is only 2 mining rigs, if you want I can show you more addresses. I can buy tons of accounts with this money if I want but I don't as I know the illness that have spread in the forum because of this phenomena and I condemn it now (although I have been part of this in the past but didn't other members made mistakes too) with all my heart. I left 2 of my four accounts inactive from many months, was using only 2 because many other respected members of the community did the same. If it is wrong using 2 accounts ,well this should be wrong for every forum member and not only for me.

Do not link me to people I don't even know who they are.
Meanwhile my latest creation, the above rigs are with RX 570, this one with 580


I have to go to fix a board now for some friends, will be back tomorrow after work in case you want to bring more shit up.

In the end thank you again everyone for reading.

[marlboroza]

from posting to gambling section you come here and try to bash me without evidence.

Care to READ post above WITH evidence?

This is the address I first used at the forum, this is also the one who was exposed by a forum member in Timelord thread in 2016, you can check it in wallet explorer, it will link my only 4 accounts.

Why are you repeating "4 accounts and Timelord"?
I posted 3-4 posts from "known alts" topic(posted by avirunes and timelord)
54 accounts connected if I counted them correctly.

As you said "check wallet explorer" I actually did. Mind to explain why scammers accounts are connected with your accounts?

I would love to have my trust to neutral as I want to be enrolled in signature campaigns

If your plan is to get me negative trust you will not achieve anything, as my priority now is building mining rigs which I have a lot of them and not signature campaigns

May I remind you that you started this topic, I gathered information posted by trusted members and made my conclusion from it and I also think when you open topic in reputation and ask for negative to be removed you should expect such post.

[BitcoinSupremo]

I repeat it as my memory is left there, after the topic was cleared by myself that I only have these 4 accounts I didn't care more to read what have happened, I was only surprised to see time after time new negative feedback by Timelord with different accounts I never had heard before. I don't know about this other thread and don't want to because it's not me. It is wrong. I have no problems saying it is me even if I have done the worst of things.

Anyway I will be forever grateful to DT members for not tagging me in red during 2016 as that made me stay in the forum and not abandon it and look where I arrived by reading everyday here, being one of the best rig builders. I would not have achieved this if they have neg rep me at that time. I would have been disappointed as at that time my only way of earning bitcoin except buying (a very few amount) was from signature campaigns. In January 2017 I was persuaded by many friends to start building rigs based on the knowledge I had acquired here, so I did so. In January 2017 build my first rig with RX 480 Sapphire Nitro+ and continue to add as time passing by. In December 2017 I reached my first goal of having 6 mining rigs. I set my plan for 2018 to reach up to 12 boards and why not trying to start my own business and quit my job. I am investing money from my first 6 rigs to build new ones. That is my story from January 2017 and onwards, I am not proud of what I did before as I said here.

Again I want to emphasize the only accounts under my possession are those linked by the address in wallet explorer. 

And I would like you to remove the false feedback you have left me. I am in no way affiliated with anyone here.
Everyone knows my accounts and this is my last one, which I will continue to use no matter what happens. People need my tips .

[marlboroza]

only accounts under my possession are those linked by the address in wallet explorer.  

FFS! Do you really refuse to read post and click on links where all connections are?

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is smho_16 from Bitcointalk, today is 22-Jan-2016.

I am taking a loan 0.002 BTC from Aleator and going to pay him back 0.0022 BTC on 25-Jan2016.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
16wTgwurnPeS1U1GKEhvPsFMe1qSWujCdv
IHOgEzp9TGNMF0FmoJYuXCeXdNWwAdC2L6lzwP5tqbtlSIwQYk1CBsAShdLON72r+4R6/5+Fw/G5OuhUry9PYuE=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

Need a little quick loan for paying e-service
Amount: 0.005
Payment in hours: Before Next Monday (21-Sep).
Payment: 0.0055
Collateral:This Account
BTC address: 19arF2Da2CDTjHT8j8nwRZYg9kYXH6x3hx

(betohell took loan from roadbits  )

Both addresses are part of Wallet [0d81e46515]

1AymK33UnW6RhuD2R2DYQQ3DL6ZmXXyDHo   
19arF2Da2CDTjHT8j8nwRZYg9kYXH6x3hx
1MmpzXmU9kaa4wnASs457kFdLEyyeBmKN6   
1LRFm8Yxd6wosh5WTfVG6t47VBuP6uSY9W   
1L1aKxiyKk5LQGx86mTLyqLr8yc4EEdq5R       
16wTgwurnPeS1U1GKEhvPsFMe1qSWujCdv

Please, explain to me how addresses which are part of wallet are not part of wallet?

You signed message from your alt account smho_16 which means that is your wallet, and all addresses in that wallet are yours, including betohell's address.

[yahoo62278]

My personal opinion is if you are the owner of 4 accounts, admitting you own all 4, and 1 had neg trust. All 4 accounts need tagged.

If a guy owns 4 accounts and scams on 1 account, how is it ok for the other 3 accounts to be left untouched? Or if he is shitposting on 1 account but not the others, why did he choose to not care with 1 account? All actions done on all of your accounts are connected. So all actions/accounts should share the consequences.

Just my opinion

[BitcoinSupremo]

My personal opinion is if you are the owner of 4 accounts, admitting you own all 4, and 1 had neg trust. All 4 accounts need tagged.

If a guy owns 4 accounts and scams on 1 account, how is it ok for the other 3 accounts to be left untouched? Or if he is shitposting on 1 account but not the others, why did he choose to not care with 1 account? All actions done on all of your accounts are connected. So all actions/accounts should share the consequences.

Just my opinion

I respect your decision and every decision the DT members will take.
I am not shitposter as I have been in your campaigns a lot of time Yahoo and I want to thank you for that, you also contributed in making me one of the best rig builders here in my country.

Regarding the loan is before I bought the accounts, I have bought those three accounts in 2016 as you all know. That is why I refuse any other connection except the one that links my 4 accounts after I had them all in my possession. At that time buying was allowed and I need bitcoin and my only way to get them back then was signature, I haven't scam anyone from July 2016 and up ,bought my accounts a few months earlier. I even got threats about some unpaid loans of smho_16 but amount was really low so I paid it.

[marlboroza]

Regarding the loan is before I bought the accounts, I have bought those three accounts in 2016 as you all know.

What do you mean as we all know? No, we don't know.

Care to show us proof that you have bought accounts?  

I haven't scam anyone from July 2016 and up ,bought my accounts a few months earlier. I even got threats about some unpaid loans of smho_16 but amount was really low so I paid it.

Now that is all what I wanted to hear.

And I would like you to remove the false feedback you have left me. I am in no way affiliated with anyone here.

The thing is, I hate scammers and this forum is full of them. I don't mind someone having alt accounts as long as it is all by rules(no cheating, no scamming and no buying accounts - this topic is very good example why it is always bad idea to buy accounts, if you have bought them at all)
Also you gave me false retaliation, saying that I did the same thing as you did is one big lie.

Code:

marlboroza u=787736 and zorrobek u=841192 are connected via bitcoin address
1AxxMUpEwNeFkVgwefp4PjGkAo4egCT792

So much for attacking other people, what valid are accusations if the accuser is accused of the same ? 

You see, you are requesting negative to be removed from your alt account while connection with scammer is pretty solid, in my opinion all accounts should be negative tagged - but hey, that is my opinion. My negative also shows to me that I can't trust you which is point of my negative rating anyway.
I don't have anything more to discuss with you now and in future.

[BitcoinSupremo]

Regarding the loan is before I bought the accounts, I have bought those three accounts in 2016 as you all know.

What do you mean as we all know? No, we don't know.

Care to show us proof that you have bought accounts?  

I haven't scam anyone from July 2016 and up ,bought my accounts a few months earlier. I even got threats about some unpaid loans of smho_16 but amount was really low so I paid it.

Now that is all what I wanted to hear.

And I would like you to remove the false feedback you have left me. I am in no way affiliated with anyone here.

The thing is, I hate scammers and this forum is full of them. I don't mind someone having alt accounts as long as it is all by rules(no cheating, no scamming and no buying accounts - this topic is very good example why it is always bad idea to buy accounts, if you have bought them at all)
Also you gave me false retaliation, saying that I did the same thing as you did is one big lie.

Code:

marlboroza u=787736 and zorrobek u=841192 are connected via bitcoin address
1AxxMUpEwNeFkVgwefp4PjGkAo4egCT792

So much for attacking other people, what valid are accusations if the accuser is accused of the same ? 

You see, you are requesting negative to be removed from your alt account while connection with scammer is pretty solid, in my opinion all accounts should be negative tagged - but hey, that is my opinion. My negative also shows to me that I can't trust you which is point of my negative rating anyway.
I don't have anything more to discuss with you now and in future.

Name of the person who sold me accounts is in my feedback profile, I send him first as I was naive enough to believe people only sell accounts for signature.

He is Kummerf(https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=388836)

I have nothing to say to you too anymore.

I am the only example in which the user accepts of having alt accounts compared to 99.9999999% of the others which don't. I am also the one to have accepted to have bought accounts, I did accept since July 2016 in Timelord thread.

You did neg rep me first , mine is a counter one. You say I am a well known scammer which clearly I am not.

I am in control of only this wallet 128qQdA89Gwv3RpwaaeZziRKYSxk2u9tPA which this address is part of together with my hardware wallet, all other links are not related to me.

My mistake is to have bought accounts (and God how I hate this fact now that things have become like this) and I am suffering the consequences.

[marlboroza]

Name of the person who sold me accounts is in my feedback profile, I send him first as I was naive enough to believe people only sell accounts for signature.

When you say accounts you mean....1 account?

What are the specific about the full member account, 0.03 BTC I want to buy it in afternoon or tonight if its post quality is good to excellent and 0 bans 0 loans. PM me the specifics please.

Checked and already payed you,tx Id in your PM, and am waiting for the data of the account, thank you.

Which one?

[BitcoinSupremo]

All of them , that is for smho_16 at your quotes.

[Timelord2067]

[quote author=BitcoinSupremo link=topic=2799778.msg28800345#msg28800345 date=1516776805]
All of them , that is for smho_16 at your quotes.
[/quote]

I only stumbled on this thread on Thursday last week...

This is an all new investigation not relying on previous information gathered either by myself or anyone else.

It doesn't matter if BitcoinSupremo locks the thread as I have a copy of the BBC code and can just port the post to the [color=#0a80b1]Known Alts of any-one[/color] - [color=#f8ae23]A User Generated List[/color] [color=#c81c8f]^{Mk III} thread at a later date.

Accounts Connected:

Robertt, and

Cereberus, smho_16, zend7, BitcoinSupremo, (self admitted) and

smho_16 and lolnabtc, via same wallet and

probably Magnificanto, RacingDoubler, RacingDouble,

as well as the multitude of other UID's listed here ---> https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2799778.msg28690889#msg28690889

[color=#0a80b1]Proof:[/color]

BitcoinSupremo uses the following BitCoin wallets on their profile page:

1DADerDP2D9bpDmaBoJzaniKTVCTRratft Wallet [df715f9a4a] here February 10, 2016, 06:56:15 PM (bal 0.0001)

Code:

1DADerDP2D9bpDmaBoJzaniKTVCTRratft	0.0001     	18	426830

1P85HZEuM5pv82ZYWvXZJKcfCkop7a7kA Wallet [05a08f68a7]  here (still in play) total balance 0.02783783

Code:

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128qQdA89Gwv3RpwaaeZziRKYSxk2u9tPA	0.         	307	464972
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1AZTrwkeRDvWZFsUeY7BhSHgmDvM3Scbdb	0.         	1	412195
1EMDCiNk3pRgAKCs8C7rpXAurUGNJP6srw	0.         	1	412195
1EaiibC2aG6nByiMi25Qs8QpUraQ9D2SCd	0.         	1	412195
1EieKDiXv4PeeYxJf7rktyrAYjKXwdyQGd	0.         	1	412195
1LdqcfiqCXjxHBwZaxp3Y6ntFjZL4pKZ2U	0.         	1	412195
1NcYj5dvui8koF6oz3W94hPEdQX7ENrrB	0.         	1	412195
1NsZdoqqsaQKaXs3gfjqjWFNZ5wFy1uBif	0.         	1	412188
171u63AaiKFj6rqo2EbDpoVdwcSKxLyf5t	0.         	1	412185
15Gkg4TtR5YLwgCZsq1vedYzh2s7XLWHGp	0.         	1	411636
1A9FRm8FSukxa3jCv9FHFgNb66SPbf3GLH	0.         	1	411636
1P78Ls5XaGofdwGfmLZRqiFpwBdJQ4Y6KZ	0.         	1	411636
1r6R1PHy27HbdkdxPHk6GnhPPC3gQNvx5	0.         	1	411636
18ETcngKUJiLNsxaS2yytNB9a29MpVvhWG	0.         	1	411478
1BjkhBXbR4fRUAwNEQhQZmQVJys9FXjWP3	0.         	1	411478
1GM58EDf9pziJ4xrCxCgipeZit4jYshQAh	0.         	1	411478
1JY9YTSrqpNMPSQhLN5MhhSf6xNa55qFK4	0.         	1	411478
1LpcrvPZQvBZSZfEDU4gjBNPMhGtwzdqLx	0.         	1	411478
1NRrgJZwww2NfFjqG5muWu19ALBu5acFgL	0.         	1	409602
1BsYXu1GHThRCBtZN9hqJZzJ8nAmP5gTny	0.         	1	409473
1Hev3XUhrThLj5FGu71S2bui4BNDVwqfVh	0.         	1	409473
1KnmquSQaiceGAwe1xYdeB91x5iUC5CjjE	0.         	1	409176
15dAUoB8Wd1Ku7uYWtZCi6ZxBeAuu1Raxh	0.         	1	409169
1EAADJAFj6RUFurZbo3inBh6rkJH9LWCLb	0.         	1	409169
16cndQF1CCdCa9PaV2LboGaHVaxExYCaTy	0.         	1	408874
197Kwkg7TxsxYHkCED3gVHJWnjk74EVL5E	0.         	1	408874
193GZyGku7Qk8TKmwEYs1mzSgBnDMkHVSB	0.         	1	407575
12Ppu21H4c4bY73bTwm6A5bGn7VjLrBjjG	0.         	1	407561
14ejmKndF8pfsBGT7XtwQWYqvDfoQ3jmEi	0.         	1	407561
1BNxTPb4dVBR5RVkMZCTFHJvyHKaxwXbNG	0.         	1	407561
13u9spbqbfxsE1yQ8duEq88k7jFooyjLWW	0.         	1	406980
15Xgc27uFSj4exGAoVuNVJzNaBWfxpfr7Y	0.         	1	406980
18LVuewvqNuZHHfgNSzhP6EvZZrTsFLwGp	0.         	1	406980
18jwZu4mWeGsZJfyua8ds68wzg5gmZiv49	0.         	1	406980
1CbzcxfC8wUXcwLrXGYZeaMtDvXXsWY9Fd	0.         	1	406980
1E6UE7Qe4PSYFSxg7fTCQVJW9QSdM8U8XD	0.         	1	406980
1CbF6SahKphKmeMib6oVevV4E76gyN2Hat	0.         	1	406811
1JAbq2WzmLUZjsg2E29tbuRwbMKzT2gN8v	0.         	1	406807
1Dwf4RtH775mbQTVJLbCoxg7R6SwHiVCPU	0.         	1	406638
14cm5nEGycP4FGfzb9gDWwBnPdEZa2Uofi	0.         	1	405275
1AAJPFmau6h4t1PFSvBQEZdBEA5TkJ2svv	0.         	1	404387
1BGd1mUwXWMosycQiC6ktAgNPpL5g8Agag	0.         	1	404387
1NoFb1KJgMnSuugTYGft33KchJe5FLYfKr	0.         	1	404387
1GmNVHsoLJsFiSKCJtVmK2oSiCk2RmPBT3	0.         	1	403526
17dY8btyTKRrJorMPTD64b6b6q4TJZHzzp	0.         	1	403522
1GKL3mJyhd5sSKEFmfqviZNBHe3Ge25VuB	0.         	1	403243
121XcH1TiHAXsr2DqAAKYNwreR8V5cbG4C	0.         	1	402509
14NpV8gJ7HvAQyoevzRzB9UdQzoZFgUDtT	0.         	1	402509
1GChrYfWhq7RCEPzmfBypZvRciF8ipwsaA	0.         	1	402509
1JmwbheRtH3zWZskmSqKW6LfHvyMrWwgmP	0.         	1	402509
1QKQKPnwr7ChLAJYUX1nfoc8E5LVKzmyo7	0.         	1	402509
1DCWHcX71v3JxAAYuj9s9TebRMzPmCAoTa	0.         	1	402461
18EUwowB4ygY15a3tXKx8U5hPgPBqwW3PC	0.         	1	401144

Next we look at BitcoinSupremo's threads they have started...

BitcoinSupremo has started 63 threads.

In this locked thread they use the wallet address 141zUmcpP5HEFBNaW28wTTwsBsWvzBwamj here Wallet [3ba084f486] - BitcoinSupremo implies that it is a directbet wallet address, but this is not the case.  The wallet was last used 26 months ago.

Code:

141zUmcpP5HEFBNaW28wTTwsBsWvzBwamj	0.         	1	399471
1B7z5oavjTBtJ2FhBmXknzhHLJgxi1JKWf	0.         	1	399471

The very next post BitcoinSupremo quotes a now deleted post that contains a directbet wallet address - 1FgTowinQk1cefZeRL7RYJrcZTFRqJHA9f but Wallet [4581e73824] does not actually appear to be a directbet wallet address.  This wallet was last used the same day 26 months ago.

Code:

1EqCqysmyTzVQjC7GK6yXJxW9Vn8khkgzb	0.         	1	399500
1FgTowinQk1cefZeRL7RYJrcZTFRqJHA9f	0.         	1	399500

BitcoinSupremo's second thread to contain a wallet address of theirs contains a TX / transaction for wallet address 1FFyMhcFutrCbXtqkn3SeoNkV65CLngCfi part of Wallet YoBit.net (last input 2017-07-27 in this transaction where 0.04122148 BTC was shifted from Wallet Bittrex.com once the transaction begins moving again BitcoinSupremo writes: (Archive)

[quote author=BitcoinSupremo link=topic=1414837.msg14338649#msg14338649 date=1459144443]
Thanks for the help, but now after 12 hours it has already 61 confirmations and the money is on one of my many wallets.
[/quote]

BitcoinSupremo's third thread ( 27 June 2016, 02:34:12 ) with a wallet address ( Hashocean-More than 3mln USD made - Archive ) is interesting in that the seventh post is by smho_16 who after at first denying was an alt, BitcoinSupremo then went on to confirm four alts after suchmoon connected two wallet address used by those two. 08 September 2016, 05:43:15

Code:

Name: 	smho_16
Posts: 	1279
Activity: 	420
Merit: 	250
Position: 	Sr. Member
Date Registered: 	13 August 2015, 23:30:54
Last Active: 	03 September 2017, 00:58:18

predates

Code:

Name: 	BitcoinSupremo
Posts: 	4154
Activity: 	826
Merit: 	503
Position: 	Copper Member
Date Registered: 	03 February 2016, 23:32:23
Last Active: 	Today at 23:46:59

smho_16's very first thread that they started on the 15 January 2016, 13:06:02 (Archive)

[quote author=smho_16 link=topic=1328469.msg13555927#msg13555927 date=1452827162]
Hi there, I am going to share my tips here starting today, just for a record 

15/01/2016
NBA La Lakers @ Golden State La Lakers +17.5 pts @1.92 LOST Quoted in #9
NBL Melbourne vs Cairns Melbourne -7.5 pts @1.84 WON #6
A League Melbourne Victory V Brisbane Draw No Bet - Melbourne Victory @1.53 WON #8[/quote]

is uncanny as it is the same style of betting that BitcoinSupremo goes on to use in their posts starting 23 days later in their second thread: (this example shows smho_16 gambled first)

[quote author=BitcoinSupremo link=topic=1356178.msg13803817#msg13803817 date=1454849646]
 Hi guys

First of all I am a girl who like sports betting. I have been thinking a lot of how to implement the Martingale system in sports betting in real life.
I am going to show you my idea , which is quite simple, but is appealing only to very disciplined and experienced players.

Its easy, first you pick a team which has been always middle of table in standings or a bit lower, but not too much.
You start betting with 0.01 BTC and double this sum every time until you win. Odds of course must 2 or more to achieve this.
1 Bet-0.01
2 Bet-0.02
3 Bet-0.04
4 Bet-0.08
5 Bet-0.16
6 Bet-0.32
7 Bet-0.64
8-Bet-1.32

About 3 BTC needed for this if you play 8 matches, and 1.4 BTC if you try the seven match martingale system.
In 8 times playing at home ground the middle team should win at list 1 time to make sure you make profit. Profit varies at which number of bet the team wins.

I want to try this with Premier League, or lower English divisions as they have very good odds  8)

This is only a suggestion, I am not responsible if you lose a lot of money, not my fault in anyway, you decide what to do with your Bitcoins.
[/quote]

After a few false starts, this link is BitcoinSupremo's betting thread since the 9th of August 2016 and is still active today.

Although we can conclude smho_16 was under BitcoinSupremo's control as early as the 27 June 2016 it's more likely to my mind that BitcoinSupremo is actually an alt of smho_16 not the other way around given smho_16 starts a gambling thread first.

on: 14 July 2016, 23:18:07 BitcoinSupremo uses the above mentioned wallet address 1DADerDP2D9bpDmaBoJzaniKTVCTRratft in an OP of their thread for their BitcoinSupremo hassle free lending service! not one person comments, the thread is locked the "service" appears to fail.

Eight days earlier ( 6th July 2016) BitcoinSupremo is Looking for SPONSORSHIP!!! but after five "good luck" posts, all BitcoinSupremo can report is they are in negotiation with some very reputable gambling companies...

What concerns me is that not quite nine days after BitcoinSupremo starts this thread (the Reputation is damaged thread that we are reading this in) s/he then creates a new loan service and locks the thread on post four.  Crucially, BitcoinSupremo signs a message verified by brainwalletgtx:

Code:

-----BEGIN BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----
This is BitcoinSupremo starting a small loans service, all payments will be made from this address and repayment address also to be sent to this one. No SEGWIT, only LEGACY. Capacity of this address is 0.01 to 0.018 btc every 15 days that is why I call small loans service. It will be refilled every 2 weeks once I receive payment from my home miner (not my bigger mining activity). 0.00085 btc daily from my 4 gtx cards at home. Conditions on the thread.
-----BEGIN SIGNATURE-----
1P85HZEuM5pv82ZYWvXZJKcfCkop7a7kA
IKVX65n/Ff5VKYuG/a5GxKXNiM4zl3XxZRs8agzFGfPsBlWYKyX1iLz+uSPsY/gFO8GnTcyNUZgrtE4maUmUlc8=
-----END BITCOIN SIGNED MESSAGE-----

There aren't any other wallet addresses in BitcoinSupremo OP of their threads and without the BCT account estimator website that chronicled all of a users mentions of wallet addresses, we would have to scour all of their individual posts... something for another day perhaps.

Turning our attention back to the long running tipping thread, in the OP there is this link https://satoshibox.com/bxe4msgyh4eaazkakpvo6soz which when we clock on buy yields us this dialogue box:

[img width=400]https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/17/blobcc4e82ecfe1b2df1.jpeg[/img]

which is a dead end as a new wallet address is generated with each new visitor:

[img width=400]https://talkimg.com/images/2023/05/17/blob3a6dadec8fba71e4.jpeg[/img]

Staying with this tipping thread for just a bit longer, post number two is from that old chestnut zend7 on the August 09, 2016, 07:00:09 AM asking a question which BitcoinSupremo then answers.  That other old chestnut Wendigo turns up in post twelve.  Wendigo (another problem gambler with multiple alts) turns up fairly quickly in other threads started by BitcoinSupremo .  smho_16 turns up in post seventeen.  (ie two of the three self admitted alts boosting the thread on the 9th of August 2016).

Our two working theories at this point are

• BitcoinSupremo bought the three accounts
• Or, owned them out right from the start. smho_16 predates BitcoinSupremo and was gambling prior to BitcoinSupremo's UID creation.

Having exhausted our list of wallet addresses for BitcoinSupremo at over 100, we now turn our attention to smho_16.

On their profile page smho_16 has used wallet addresses 14RPbjjfJz36pEHapBjLd5FtuRYx6Y4P9Y since at least 17 Mar 2017 14:05:19 UTC when their profile page was first archived.  Given that it is unchanged to this day and BitcoinSupremo claims ownership, how is it possible that the wallet address was first used on 2016-04-26 17:17:27 UTC and still active on the 2017-05-11 15:27:45 and is still in use on smho_16 profile page in 2018?

To my mind this reinforces the assertion that BitcoinSupremo is an alt of smho_16 which has been used by the pair since at least the 26th of April 2016.

14RPbjjfJz36pEHapBjLd5FtuRYx6Y4P9Y is part of Wallet [05a08f68a7] which was last used on the 2018-04-30 18:38:49 UTC

https://www.walletexplorer.com/wallet/05a08f68a7a83b39/addresses as you may recall contains the signed wallet address

Code:

1P85HZEuM5pv82ZYWvXZJKcfCkop7a7kA	0.02783783 	62	520611

In all fairness we need something that overlaps smho_16 to BitcoinSupremo Let's turn our attention to the time line around the following loan...

• In mid January 2016 (14th to 20th January 2016) smho_16 tries to get loans / tips (14/01) here here here here (20/01) here here (21/01) here (22/01) here here here (all links are the archive to save time and space) using the wallet address 16wTgwurnPeS1U1GKEhvPsFMe1qSWujCdv they have signed.
• 15 January 2016, 13:06:02 smho_16 first thread post with gambling in the style BitcoinSupremo would go on to use.
• 22 January 2016, 22:39:51 smho_16 asks for, and receives a loan: Need a quick micro loan (Archive) <--- This is where the loan is taken out.
  
  This is the TX https://blockchain.info/tx/1db93922fa0c6c0d85fa2944e23620b2304f0102560386e8093f725fafd6c55b
  
  16wTgwurnPeS1U1GKEhvPsFMe1qSWujCdv part of Wallet [0d81e46515] receives 0.002 BTC
• 03 February 2016, 23:32:23 Date Registered:    BitcoinSupremo
• 17 Mar 2017 First archived use of wallet address 14RPbjjfJz36pEHapBjLd5FtuRYx6Y4P9Y by smho_16
• 27 June 2016, 02:34:12 smho_16 posts in BitcoinSupremo thread as detailed above
• 29 August 2016, 22:06:1 smho_16 repays the loan using the wallet address     14RPbjjfJz36pEHapBjLd5FtuRYx6Y4P9Y which is part of Wallet [05a08f68a7] <--- This is where the loan is repaid.
  
  in repaying the loan smho_16 says:
  
  

  You could have reminded me back in the days regarding this loan. I totally had forgot about it as from the period of January up to April I was not very much active in the forum because of personal reasons. Anyway I don't want to be owning money to anyone so here it is your repayment. I am sorry for bumping this topic but it was a request from the lender after such a long time for such irrevelant amount.
  
  https://blockchain.info/tx/237a643a57000755ffcdb74196ffcc72c9a4902ad0b0efa797b0376de4e94a06
  
  Topic locking.

• 07 September 2016, 20:34:38 I connect Cereberus u=536619 smho_16 u=544789 zend7 u=639442 BitcoinSupremo u=754727 to morocco.man u=525932 from10to1280 u=713392 starting here first Cereberus then BitcoinSupremo take turns denying the connection - as we know eventually BitcoinSupremo admits the connection of the four Cereberus u=536619 smho_16 u=544789 zend7 u=639442 BitcoinSupremo u=754727 claiming they were bought.

[size=20pt]When?[/size]

26th of April 2016 ?
27the June 2016 ?

After 29 August 2016, when smho_16 repaid the loan using the wallet address 14RPbjjfJz36pEHapBjLd5FtuRYx6Y4P9Y or before?

smho_16 takes a loan with a proven scammer wallet and repays it with the wallet that BitcoinSupremo signs a message with.  Eight days later BitcoinSupremo claims they were bought.  I doubt it.

Why repay a loan that the previous owner of the UID owed? Or at least state that it was a previous owner?  And why say it was your fault for being distracted?


BitcoinSupremo is the scammer morocco.man and all the other alts listed here:

[quote author=marlboroza link=topic=2799778.msg28690889#msg28690889 date=1516635899]
[quote author=BitcoinSupremo link=topic=2799778.msg28641379#msg28641379 date=1516571301]
I have nothing to hide too.
[/quote]
I don't think so.
[quote author=BitcoinSupremo link=topic=2799778.msg28641379#msg28641379 date=1516571301]
Been here for many years without scamming someone and minding my own business.
[/quote]

Account Cereberus was connected with account pbitcoin here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg16174365#msg16174365 but that is actually irrelevant.

Account smho_16 was connected with accounts horace0812, betohell here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1702409.msg18221475#msg18221475

Account betohell was connected with accounts diodio5 , ajun96 , NinjaSkills , MTBTT , betohell , blackmachinegun , adjie14 , dwihananto , DeDordtenaar , uname , kostya.ash , Alvin Fahriza ,CryptoSkills , joinal here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1206112.msg17027865#msg17027865

Account diodio5 was connected to well known scammer dio, hothtszho, Engg.Akrepi, hosumfu, louise123e,  yingbb0301, sun64986161, kenshi222, williamho, diodio1, retes1234, kovaa, summer11, bank2, banklunjo, retes4321, diodio5, godzerosonic, retes43210, retes12345, Engg.Chaks, y02723942001, sun64986, yinghacked, summer111,  summer116, Deacidifyingbbas, sorlunjo,  kenshi2121, kenshin77, kenshin_8513,  d161616, Engg.Chalks.Returns,  chakchaks here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1275297.msg17059136#msg17059136

This https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=1925386.0 makes more sense now.

[quote author=The Pharmacist link=topic=2799778.msg28641239#msg28641239 date=1516571123]
~snip~
A cover for a larger dishonesty.  And in this case, I smell something fishy.
~snip~
[/quote]
Well, when you put all connections together...
[/quote]


I haven't even started looking at zend7 much less Cereberus to be confident BitcoinSupremo never bought them.

Robertt starts a thread on the 21 January 2016, 19:50:34 - the second and third posts are by lolnabtc and smho_16 respectively.

Robertt confirms their wallet addresses as 16wTgwurnPeS1U1GKEhvPsFMe1qSWujCdv for smho_16 and 1LRFm8Yxd6wosh5WTfVG6t47VBuP6uSY9W for lolnabtc which are both part of the same Wallet [0d81e46515] sending funds from wallet address 13DF7a3F1bHJDQHYobjFcVLmsba8RiS4ou

• In mid January 2016 (14th to 20th January 2016) smho_16 tries to get loans / tips (14/01) here here here here (20/01) here here (21/01) here (22/01) here here here (all links are the archive to save time and space) using the wallet address 16wTgwurnPeS1U1GKEhvPsFMe1qSWujCdv they have signed.
• Starting on the 12th of January 2016 (the day they were spawned) lolnabtc starts asking for loans / tips (12/01) here (13/01) here here (14/01) here (21/01) here (05/02) here here (11/02) here (12/02) here (14/02) here here (18/02) here here here (01/03) here here (02/03) here here
• 28th December 2015, three days after being created, Robertt uses the wallet address 13DF7a3F1bHJDQHYobjFcVLmsba8RiS4ou  here here (signed)  (11/01) here (signed) (12/01) here (signed)  here (signed) here (signed) (13/01) here (staked, but *not* signed) (Gildarts posts one post prior) (16/01) here (signed) (21/01) here (signed) (23/01) here (signed) Here (signed) (25/01) here (signed) (26/01) here here (signed)

This gets me to thinking.  Robertt, lolnabtc and smho_16 might well be alts.  Supposing, just supposing the alts don't just boost each-others posts, but are actually used to funnel funds from one UID to another?  lolnabtc and smho_16 boost Robertt's post and are gifted funds, but in doing so they appear to be legitimately receiving funds.  Robertt goes on to scam and they walk away with "clean" funds seemingly having gained them from Robertt before he went rogue.

Some UID's crop up boosting Robertt's threads:

Code:

Name: 	Magnificanto
Posts: 	59
Activity: 	59
Merit: 	0
Position: 	Jr. Member
Date Registered: 	03 November 2015, 02:40:23
Last Active: 	02 August 2016, 16:51:37

Code:

Name: 	Robertt
Posts: 	1049
Activity: 	112
Merit: 	10
Position: 	Member
Date Registered: 	25 December 2015, 01:34:53
Last Active: 	31 July 2016, 00:01:05

Code:

Name: 	lolnabtc
Posts: 	323
Activity: 	84
Merit: 	10
Position: 	Member
Date Registered: 	12 January 2016, 19:02:51
Last Active: 	26 March 2016, 21:05:46

Code:

Name: 	RacingDoubler
Posts: 	0
Activity: 	0
Merit: 	0
Position: 	Brand new
Date Registered: 	14 February 2016, 15:12:00
Last Active: 	14 February 2016, 15:12:01

Code:

Name: 	RacingDouble
Posts: 	30
Activity: 	14
Merit: 	0
Position: 	Newbie
Date Registered: 	14 February 2016, 15:15:01
Last Active: 	25 February 2016, 22:53:16

In Magnificanto's case that UID was last active seven days before BitcoinSupremo's current tipping thread started.

RacingDouble (flagged for running a ponzi) is active in the two weeks the three UID's are seeking funds. (*edit* and while doing some proof for the post I have found a second UID called RacingDoubler that was created just three minutes earlier)

When lolnabtc falls silent, so do the loans and other begging.

Looking at possible connections to Robert, we see that:

• 6th July 2016) BitcoinSupremo is Looking for SPONSORSHIP!!! but after five "good luck" posts, all BitcoinSupremo can report is they are in negotiation with some very reputable gambling companies...
• Robertt is last actual active on: 10 July 2016, 02:11:24 and is last active 21 days later.
• on: 14 July 2016, 23:18:07 BitcoinSupremo uses the above mentioned wallet address 1DADerDP2D9bpDmaBoJzaniKTVCTRratft in an OP of their thread for their BitcoinSupremo hassle free lending service! not one person comments, the thread is locked the "service" appears to fail.

I should point out this is just a theory that Robertt is an alt of BitcoinSupremo via lolnabtc and smho_16 and that RacingDoubler/RacingDouble and Magnificanto could also be sock puppets as well.  The very narrow window of use of the three wallet addresses and the seeming urgency to get funds at that time makes me fairly certain Robertt at least is an alt.

Code:

Name: 	zend7
Posts: 	1080
Activity: 	658
Merit: 	501
Position: 	Hero Member
Date Registered: 	08 November 2015, 23:08:22
Last Active: 	10 September 2017, 04:36:50

zend7 uses the wallet addresses on their profile page:

16 May 2017 10:18:10 UTC 1C3sSw9hKW5JxgEsskwmwSZEiYqP33zybx Wallet [003bd1d96e]

[code]1MwQLj8Hbs59GXTNR9fHALuqyJb36DjUM8   0.            68   464972
1C3sSw9hKW5JxgEsskwmwSZEiYqP33zybx   0.            40   474375
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[Wendigo]

That other old chestnut Wendigo turns up in post twelve.  Wendigo (another problem gambler with multiple alts) turns up fairly quickly in other threads started by BitcoinSupremo

Hey you old geezer, please stick to your day job of bus driving because you really suck at playing pretend Internet forum sleuth  How is your alt coin coming along on that NZ exchange by the way?

[Timelord2067]

That other old chestnut Wendigo turns up in post twelve.  Wendigo (another problem gambler with multiple alts) turns up fairly quickly in other threads started by BitcoinSupremo

Hey you old geezer, please stick to your day job of bus driving because you really suck at playing pretend Internet forum sleuth  How is your alt coin coming along on that NZ exchange by the way?

Right on cue!

I didn't know TradeSatoshi was based in En Zed.

1.5M X 0.0001 = BTC 150 (Unless I'm yanking ya chain)

PS, Thankfully I'm not part of a Bus Driver's Union, perish the thought...