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August 24, 2013, 03:18:37 PM
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August 24, 2013, 05:36:23 PM
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Because credit cards allow RECURRING subscription charges!!!

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August 24, 2013, 08:02:42 PM
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not only porn, homegrow equippment should be a an interesting field for bitcoin use.
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August 24, 2013, 08:14:00 PM
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Subscriptions are a big one.  But I think in a surprising sense the industry is moving away from sites reliant on subscriptions (e.g. people forgetting about it) and you are starting to see stuff that is actually worth ponying up for (at least in comparison to older model sites).

The biggest factor though, from my limited experience would be the impulse purchase factor.  If buying a soda in line to check out at the big box store is impulse, then porn is hyper-impulse.  There is generally little to no planning going into "I'm going to go spend some time on a porn site right now", so you need to have as frictionless of a transaction as possible.

Bitcoin just doesn't reach the ease of use of credit cards yet.  I think it can, but right now if $random_40_year_old wanted some bitcoins NOW so he could check out some adult site he found, how does he get them easily and quickly?  The answer is you don't.

Once you *have* bitcoins, there are tons of services that will imo be game changing in the porn markets if btc ever becomes big enough.  Bitcoin allows truly viable microtransactions ($1-5) so paying an anonymous dollar to upgrade that video playing on pornhub to HD starts becoming an entirely new model people can exploit.  Right now other sites have kind of paid lip service to these things, but they all require pre-existing accounts, registration, fraud control, etc.

Basically it needs to be as easy as going to a site, entering your credit card or paypal info, and having bitcoins 10 minutes later you can spend.  Until then, or until massive bitcoin adoption, the mass adult market might be a tough one.  Certainly solvable problems, but regulation will be the gating factor imo.

Also if adoption or ease of use starts to become viable, you are going to see all the marginal shitbox (and some downright criminal fraud) sites love bitcoin because they won't have to worry about chargebacks.  If those types are allowed to go amuck and ruin the idea of paying for porn with bitcoin ("I paid .5btc and all I got was this shitty members area from 1998"), you might see a harder road to adoption until a big industry player starts using it with a successful implementation.

So yes, I think it could be revolutionary for adult site operators.  Zero chargeback risk, very low cost for transactions, but probably won't replace credit cards for the traditional subscription based services.  Webcam studios probably are already looking into it pretty hard, as it solves tons of issues there - it's simply a matter of how many of their customer based (whales especially) even know about it.  Then you can go the PPV model or anything else you can think up Smiley
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August 24, 2013, 08:27:35 PM
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Because credit cards allow RECURRING subscription charges!!!

OkCupid is a subscription website that accept bitcoin payments.

Coinbase allows recurring payments.

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September 12, 2013, 02:49:46 AM
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Moar:

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September 12, 2013, 04:33:54 AM
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2) No way to verify age from a Bitcoin address
...and how are other payment methods any better?

The biggest lie told on the Internet:

Warning: This website contains adult material, you need to be 18 years old or more to access. Do you have 18 years or more?

Yes    No

so very very true +1
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September 12, 2013, 01:45:28 PM
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I'm a geek and I've paid for porn many of times. Most free porn on tube sites are very low quality. I like high quality hd videos. Also I'll never download any videos or pictures from a free forum I know allot of them contain viruses, porn that you pay for is virus free!

Paying for something adds value to what you paid for making it more enjoyable. People don't appreciate what is free
Bitcoin's main user-base consists mainly geeks. I have never known a geek paying for porn.
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September 12, 2013, 01:53:47 PM
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I'm a geek and I've paid for porn many of times. Most free porn on tube sites are very low quality. I like high quality hd videos. Also I'll never download any videos or pictures from a free forum I know allot of them contain viruses, porn that you pay for is virus free!

Paying for something adds value to what you paid for making it more enjoyable. People don't appreciate what is free
Bitcoin's main user-base consists mainly geeks. I have never known a geek paying for porn.

Some time ago I would now have made (a bit) fun of you, for the silly, noobish fear of infected pictures or videos.
I won't. Funny, how times have changed..

I didn't pay for porn, but paid for software, music, movies. And donated my part to random good causes. You could argue all of these with the same arguments.

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September 12, 2013, 02:14:06 PM
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I would imagine a huge amount of revenue is from subscription services that auto-renew. There is no way to auto renew using bitcoin; every transaction is a "push" transaction, not a "pull" one.

So that hurdle would somehow have to be dealt with.


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September 12, 2013, 02:33:43 PM
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nobody can stop this and its growing day by day too much and its hurts and bad effects too much same happen to Liberty Reserve and its closed  Sad

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September 12, 2013, 02:59:32 PM
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I would imagine a huge amount of revenue is from subscription services that auto-renew. There is no way to auto renew using bitcoin; every transaction is a "push" transaction, not a "pull" one.

So that hurdle would somehow have to be dealt with.


i´d say this would be a killer application for businesses considering bitcoin payments: re-occuring payments. we need a start-up covering this. but, technically - how?

very hard to do without giving up the sole control over your wallet/coins.
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September 12, 2013, 03:46:08 PM
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Because people would rather download it from somewhere, than pay for it.

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September 12, 2013, 03:58:26 PM
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Bitcoin may yet, erm.., penetrate this market  Grin Though I think more the problem in that industry is finding what people will actually pay for than the method of collection, not to say taking digital currency wouldn't be a lot easier and cheaper regardless.

Because people would rather download it from somewhere, than pay for it.


Generally, yes, but some (that don't know what BitTorrent is anyway) will shell out some cash for high quality productions, or at least high quality video. Thanks to the Internet destroying DVD sales porn studios have to come up with something that will sell as a premium service or product.

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September 12, 2013, 04:00:33 PM
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I would imagine a huge amount of revenue is from subscription services that auto-renew. There is no way to auto renew using bitcoin; every transaction is a "push" transaction, not a "pull" one.

So that hurdle would somehow have to be dealt with.


i´d say this would be a killer application for businesses considering bitcoin payments: re-occuring payments. we need a start-up covering this. but, technically - how?

very hard to do without giving up the sole control over your wallet/coins.

Coinbase supports recurring payments:

https://coinbase.com/docs/merchant_tools/recurring_payments
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September 12, 2013, 04:16:05 PM
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Bitcoin may yet, erm.., penetrate this market  Grin Though I think more the problem in that industry is finding what people will actually pay for than the method of collection, not to say taking digital currency wouldn't be a lot easier and cheaper regardless.

Because people would rather download it from somewhere, than pay for it.


Generally, yes, but some (that don't know what BitTorrent is anyway) will shell out some cash for high quality productions, or at least high quality video. Thanks to the Internet destroying DVD sales porn studios have to come up with something that will sell as a premium service or product.

I don't think there is anyone that doesn't know what BitTorrent is, if he uses a PC and has internet anyway.

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September 12, 2013, 06:02:00 PM
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I have a subscription to brazzers because I don't like the stuff loaded with viruses. I e-mailed them a long time ago about how they should accept bitcoin. Never heard back from them, but it wouldn't hurt for a bunch of people to also recommend it.
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September 12, 2013, 06:26:01 PM
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Bitcoin seems like the perfect match for porn and gambling so kinda inevitable. It's just a matter of when. You have to remember that most people learned about Bitcoin in april, that is barely 6 months ago. These things take time.

I'd be surprised if 2 years from now, most porn and gambling websites still don't accept Bitcoin.

The good thing is we can still buy bitcoins at cheap prices. For early adopters, the ideal scenario is one in which Bitcoin appreciates steadily so you can easily buy Bitcoin every month rather than huge bubble/bust every now and then. So let's not be too eager to see mass adoptions. That's time to make more fiat to buy more bitcoins.
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September 12, 2013, 08:06:56 PM
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btc will easily touch 1000 by entering oldschool porn and gambling industries.
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September 12, 2013, 08:10:16 PM
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btc will easily touch 1000 by entering oldschool porn and gambling industries.

Just need to quote this for the pun-larity.

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