[ANN] Payger - Payment + Messenger

[samsun00]

This is a scam. Where is blockpay or many? We going to the police...

[inrage]

a refund is not the current option since all of the raised funds are dedicated to the delivery of the products. Don´t forget we started in August 2016. Most of the raised funds are already spent for development purposes in 2016 and 2017. The amount left is used to pay our international development team of 15 senior devs who are finalizing the first product launch in Q2 2018. I am fully focused on the product launch now and there is still a lot to do.

First of all, this is a shit show. Christoph does not dare to correspond directly. pie777 is a fake, that was obvious from the beginning.

Clearly there is a fraud going on. The financials do not match up, there is an unexplained deficiency of 430BTC. Also, nothing is disclosed about the 3406ETH.

It was clear with the announcement of Payger that it is about conversing the pre-ICO funds, and not a simple rebranding for which the purpose was stated.

Christoph and his lawyer dad are committing an exit scam where they try to get away with stealing a large proportion of the pre-ICO funds.

There is no way that most of the raised funds were spent for development purposes in 2016 and 2017. It is a blatant lie. Funds were given to the scammer Ken Code. Christoph Hering: Show us the invoices for the money that was allegedly paid to the individual programmers under contract.

[AltcoinScamfinder]

reserved for updates

I have an update for you. Return original ICO funds or get sued and jailed.

[inrage]

ICO funds will be refunded when cash flows increases as wider acceptance of Payger becomes established.

That announcement constitutes a fraud. Giving a promise for payout on fictitious income, whereas it was previously stated that funds from the pre-ico will be entirely spent for "development". Not to say that those funds were already stolen by Christoph Hering and Ken Code.

[Rumhurius]

what a shitshow.
You cant get away with this type of junk , can you ?

[Drokzid]

what a shitshow.
You cant get away with this type of junk , can you ?

Seems like that, yes. I have also invested into the Blockpay ICO and am very disappointed how the project developed.

[moirahpascual11]

 very interested to be able to read and know the progress that will  done by this project .i like the concept and watch how it moves ahead of this project
 





























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[inrage]

It's a scam.

Here is what was said about the ICO price for the second round:

Phase4:   2nd ICO   @ 0.000500 BTC tokens/each   Initial Price

If the set price is applied it cannot work, and if a different price is set it is yet another fraud. Besides that nobody is going to invest in an ICO by Christoph Hering, a fraudster, liar and total idiot with a proven track record of perfect unprofessionalism.

Christoph Hering: You should have done the buyback option that you agreed on, it was the only way to resolve the situation for you. But it did not happen because you stole the pre-ICO funds together with Ken Code. All the shitshow you are doing together with your criminal lawyer dad is intended for distraction from those facts. Yet another phony announcement through your fake profile pie777.

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[inrage]

How comes that all the Hering fanboys have shitty profiles https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1892629;sa=showPosts;start=0

Christoph Hering was already rated at Bitshares, all reputable community members kicked his ass.

[cp3mc]

It's going to be a wonderful project and we are keeping our hope on it

[callback]

February 23, 2018

Question to Christoph: Can blockpay be upgraded as a dashcoin to make user data hidden?

Answer: "We rebranded to Payger, so no BlockPay anymore. Due to regulatory requirements we have to store regular kyc user data. We cannot provide full anonymity. Best regards Christoph" - So, one may guess that if dash was used as part of the payger app, would have more details on the transactions, and conversions into cash, or payger tokens for purchases. With the zero fees for dash, may also have more of public, and visible of a transactions history.

February 26, 2018

Question to Christoph: Are the payger's going to be tokens, or coin?

Answer: "They will be tokens. My goal are buy back and burn tokens under German law. Will start working on the tokens after the product lunch in Q2. We are in testing phase right now." - Hopefully, this may suggest the q2 launch will be some type of crowd funding event, that will raise the price of blockpays for the pre-ico, and current blockpay holders.

pie777, you deleted some of your former messages.
Why, fearing legal trouble after all?
Whats the point of re-posting these worthless statements?
Nothing has ever materialised, going on for 2 years now, empty promises, lies over lies over lies.
Scammers gonna scam. Its just too obvious you are just a sockpuppet.

[inrage]

Lies, phony announcements, misrepresentation, the neverending shitshow...

Christoph Hering and his lawyer dad Dr. Wolfgang Hering are criminals. They somehow think that legal trickery and endless delays is working out for them. So now we hear that after Payger is going to be started some unspecified buyback is taking place. Previously it was said that all Blockpay funds were or are spent for "development" upon launching Payger. 440BTC are unaccounted and have disappeared, in addition significant amounts were given to Ken Code.

It is not a rebranding, it is a fraud.

[inrage]

To me it seems that pie777 is someone from the agency in Hamburg that Christoph Hering paid with Blockpay funds to improve his image.

These acts are criminal as well, it is an active participation in a fraud where they benefit/steal from Blockpay investors.

[inrage]

It remains suspect to me why Christoph Hering is relaying his messages through pie777. He is communicating (or not) with a view to defend his self-focused business conduct against Blockpay investors whereby he refuses any kind of transparency. I can't imagine that a legit Blockpay token holder would behave like pie777.

[mcfom]

Generally websites are main source of information about project but there is nothing except newsletter subscription for updates. That I have done but what else can be used to know more ? In introduction you get just idea about concept but that isn't sufficient. How alpha testing is going on which was planned for Q1 of this year ?

[qory]

Generally websites are main source of information about project but there is nothing except newsletter subscription for updates. That I have done but what else can be used to know more ? In introduction you get just idea about concept but that isn't sufficient. How alpha testing is going on which was planned for Q1 of this year ?

this is enough to make the investors anxious, because there is no information and updates that they do in the website
they should be able to quickly clarify this so we can find out the alpha test

[inrage]

Hi! What are the functions of the platform? Can you tell me more detailed?

The Herings are con artists.

There is nothing in existence, it is about hot air. Whatever is going to be spent on Payger is only a small fraction of what was taken from Blockpay ICO investors.

They diverted  the money into their own pockets. Christoph Hering is burning the funds for his lavish lifestyle https://twitter.com/HeringChristoph/media declaring it as activity for Payger, while the scumbag Dr. Wolfgang Hering is cashing in EUR500 per hour for advising his disgusting son Christoph on the legal requirements for the scam.

The money trail tells it all. The funds are in their pockets, with a significant part given to Ken Code in order that they could liquidiate Bitshares Munich IVS.

https://ibin.co/w800/3xG1o4oyYaKw.jpg

[luckyman0160]

The first couple of pages were good))) then we have a fight in the thread) i thought it could of been a good project and a good idea to combine a messenger and a pay platform..... but its a scam...

[inrage]

The first couple of pages were good))) then we have a fight in the thread) i thought it could of been a good project and a good idea to combine a messenger and a pay platform..... but its a scam...

The money trail tells it all. The money is gone, and the Herings refuse accountability for spendings.

Christoph Hering was even dumping his own Blockpay, or trying to do, on which Blockpay trading was suspended on Openledger.

That's his attitude and character, while he is driving around in a Porsche and/or some other idiotic car paid with investors money.