A request to Blazed (and others who are in plan to recruit more DT members)

[Have_good_times]

Why this request to Blazed
I understand the recent DT inclusions were done due to Blazed's recommendation.

The problem
If we notice most of the DT members are not competing with rest of forum members for selling their signature and avatar spaces.

For example,
hilariousandco and Lutpin are not competing for earning opportunity but accepting offers to show advertisements.
Lauda is intensively looking for earning opportunity in the name of ACE and ALU.

The recent DT members The Pharmacist and actmyname are still competing with rest of forum members for selling their avatar and signature spaces.

(actmyname was in bitsler camp for more than one year and The Pharmacist always competes in Yahoo's altcoin camps.)

Now, after they have the power to disqualify any forum members to lessen the completion to get slots, how we can believe that they will not misuse their DT power ?

(I assume these people must have tons of alt accounts and they want to grab more slots as much as possible)

Until Lauda started managing bitmixer camp, it (the cat) never bothered about account dealing nor shit posting even it was a staff and DT member for years. Why suddenly started giving neg trust to 1000s of accounts along with competing with rest of forum members to earn more.

The clear breach of trust system guidelines for personal benefits

As per theymos' guidelines on trust system, a feedback should not be based on quality of posts.

- Do not rate people based on the quality of their posts.

But these people are providing rating only based on quality of posts whereas "Report to moderator' option is available everywhere or SMAS black-listing also an option against quality of posting.


The request
Please include the members into DT who are not into a situation where they will not misuse their power. When a DT member's behaviors is changing, please monitor them closely.

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[Chinese909]

Why this request to Blazed
I understand the recent DT inclusions were done due to Blazed's recommendation.

The problem
If we notice most of the DT members are not competing with rest of forum members for selling their signature and avatar spaces.

For example,
hilariousandco and Lutpin are not competing for earning opportunity but accepting offers to show advertisements.
Lauda is intensively looking for earning opportunity in the name of ACE and ALU.

The recent DT members The Pharmacist and actmyname are still competing with rest of forum members for selling their avatar and signature spaces.

(actmyname was in bitsler camp for more than one year and The Pharmacist always competes in Yahoo's altcoin camps.)

Now, after they have the power to disqualify any forum members to lessen the completion to get slots, how we can believe that they will not misuse their DT power ?

(I assume these people must have tons of alt accounts and they want to grab more slots as much as possible)

Until Lauda started managing bitmixer camp, it (the cat) never bothered about account dealing nor shit posting even it was a staff and DT member for years. Why suddenly started giving neg trust to 1000s of accounts along with competing with rest of forum members to earn more.

actmyname is also into lending business by accepting accounts as collateral.
In general, most lenders were known for selling accounts. Now actmyname may misuse his DT power to make accounts non-usable which may lead to more value for the accounts he may be owning.

The clear breach of trust system guidelines for personal benefits

As per theymos' guidelines on trust system, a feedback should not be based on quality of posts.

- Do not rate people based on the quality of their posts.

But these people are providing rating only based on quality of posts whereas "Report to moderator' option is available everywhere or SMAS black-listing also an option against quality of posting.


The request
Please include the members into DT who are not into a situation where they will not misuse their power. When a DT member's behaviors is changing, please monitor them closely.

who are in the DT1? why the trust system is not decentralized? why Theymos leave the trust system in the hand of the abusers?

[DarkStar_]

who are in the DT1? why the trust system is not decentralized? why Theymos leave the trust system in the hand of the abusers?

DT1:
    theymos (1)
    HostFat (1)
    dooglus (1)
    Maged (1)
    dserrano5 (1)
    OgNasty (1)
    Tomatocage (1)
    SaltySpitoon (1)
    philipma1957 (1)
    Cyrus (1)
    Blazed (1)
    hilariousandco (1)
    OldScammerTag (1)

It is very decentralized. Don't like someone's ratings? Just give them a tilde (~), and their ratings won't appear as trusted. Nothing forces you to use the DefaultTrust list. Do you propose the forum starts an ICO and moves the trust system into some ETH token? /s

The recent DT members The Pharmacist and actmyname are still competing with rest of forum members for selling their avatar and signature spaces.

(actmyname was in bitsler camp for more than one year and The Pharmacist always competes in Yahoo's altcoin camps.)

Now, after they have the power to disqualify any forum members to lessen the completion to get slots, how we can believe that they will not misuse their DT power ?

(I assume these people must have tons of alt accounts and they want to grab more slots as much as possible)

Until Lauda started managing bitmixer camp, it (the cat) never bothered about account dealing nor shit posting even it was a staff and DT member for years. Why suddenly started giving neg trust to 1000s of accounts along with competing with rest of forum members to earn more.

actmyname is also into lending business by accepting accounts as collateral.
In general, most lenders were known for selling accounts. Now actmyname may misuse his DT power to make accounts non-usable which may lead to more value for the accounts he may be owning.

The clear breach of trust system guidelines for personal benefits

As per theymos' guidelines on trust system, a feedback should not be based on quality of posts.

- Do not rate people based on the quality of their posts.

But these people are providing rating only based on quality of posts whereas "Report to moderator' option is available everywhere or SMAS black-listing also an option against quality of posting.


The request
Please include the members into DT who are not into a situation where they will not misuse their power. When a DT member's behaviors is changing, please monitor them closely.

actmyname never had a lending service IIRC, unless it was before I was very active in the lending section. Also, you do realize that almost everyone tagged would be ineligible to join all of the good campaigns? If it's proven that they are doing it for personal benefit, I'm sure Blazed or other DT1 members would be happy to exclude them. Please list some of their alt accounts with solid proof and not just "oh yeah, they both live in Alberta!!!!! alts 100% confirmed!!!!!". Negative trust doesn't make your account unusable. You can still post, trade, do whatever.

[Have_good_times]

actmyname never had a lending service IIRC, unless it was before I was very active in the lending section.

Sorry, got confused with some other lender. Edited OP.

If it's proven that they are doing it for personal benefit, I'm sure Blazed or other DT1 members would be happy to exclude them. Please list some of their alt accounts with solid proof and not just "oh yeah, they both live in Alberta!!!!! alts 100% confirmed!!!!!". Negative trust doesn't make your account unusable. You can still post, trade, do whatever.

I am here talking about the potential risk.

I decided to start this thread after noticing some similar behavior among these members which is not being observed with rest of DT members.

Here is one solid supporting statement from DT1:

I have seen a few wrongly given negatives.

[actmyname]

Would it change anything if I were to leave the signature campaign? Not really. You're kind of trying to fish for moot points here.

Also, I tagged a shitload of accounts before I was put into DT2. I'm not sure why, then, you would think that the reason I'm doing this is to secure spots in signature campaigns.Also, radical problems require radical changes. It's unfortunate that we don't have much heavier moderation because otherwise a lot of spam would be cleared up (and we would finally lock those spam megathreads).

[Lauda]

For example,
hilariousandco and Lutpin are not competing for earning opportunity but accepting offers to show advertisements.
Lauda is intensively looking for earning opportunity in the name of ACE and ALU.

Lies. I am not doing anything that you've claimed, nor does me tagging anyone have any affect on either endeavor. In fact, Lutpin is part of ACE. You would have known this had you not been focused on your ICO bumping services.

The recent DT members The Pharmacist and actmyname are still competing with rest of forum members for selling their avatar and signature spaces.

No. They  do not compete with the monkeys that have been tagged. All they have to do is ask for a place and they would receive it pretty much anywhere.

Now, after they have the power to disqualify any forum members to lessen the completion to get slots, how we can believe that they will not misuse their DT power ?

Read above.

Until Lauda started managing bitmixer camp, it (the cat) never bothered about account dealing nor shit posting even it was a staff and DT member for years. Why suddenly started giving neg trust to 1000s of accounts along with competing with rest of forum members to earn more.

You are a lying troll. I was a newcommer to DT at the time.

The clear breach of trust system guidelines for personal benefits

Says the dormant alt account of someone who got tagged for shady shit.

[Blazed]

Why this request to Blazed
I understand the recent DT inclusions were done due to Blazed's recommendation.

The problem
If we notice most of the DT members are not competing with rest of forum members for selling their signature and avatar spaces.

For example,
hilariousandco and Lutpin are not competing for earning opportunity but accepting offers to show advertisements.
Lauda is intensively looking for earning opportunity in the name of ACE and ALU.

The recent DT members The Pharmacist and actmyname are still competing with rest of forum members for selling their avatar and signature spaces.

(actmyname was in bitsler camp for more than one year and The Pharmacist always competes in Yahoo's altcoin camps.)

Now, after they have the power to disqualify any forum members to lessen the completion to get slots, how we can believe that they will not misuse their DT power ?

(I assume these people must have tons of alt accounts and they want to grab more slots as much as possible)

Until Lauda started managing bitmixer camp, it (the cat) never bothered about account dealing nor shit posting even it was a staff and DT member for years. Why suddenly started giving neg trust to 1000s of accounts along with competing with rest of forum members to earn more.

The clear breach of trust system guidelines for personal benefits

As per theymos' guidelines on trust system, a feedback should not be based on quality of posts.

- Do not rate people based on the quality of their posts.

But these people are providing rating only based on quality of posts whereas "Report to moderator' option is available everywhere or SMAS black-listing also an option against quality of posting.


The request
Please include the members into DT who are not into a situation where they will not misuse their power. When a DT member's behaviors is changing, please monitor them closely.

They were added by me directly not via my recommendation.

Most people that have been here for a long time with good ratings (like myself) do not really compete for campaign spots. I have not formally applied for a slot for 2+ years and have no requirements post wise. Being in the DT network does not get you any such benefits it only causes you headaches. Being trusted means any rating you leave is put under a microscope (as it should be). Both The Pharmacist and actmyname are double checking any of their old feedbacks to make them as error free as possible since their feedback shows up by default.
 
I have also reached out to Theymos to see what his stance on red trust for shit posting is and will let you guys know. This forum has gone so far down hill from the bad posts for pay that it is almost useless. The hope is with a threat of ruined accounts people will behave better...

[baradfo]

Why this request to Blazed
I understand the recent DT inclusions were done due to Blazed's recommendation.

The problem
If we notice most of the DT members are not competing with rest of forum members for selling their signature and avatar spaces.

For example,
hilariousandco and Lutpin are not competing for earning opportunity but accepting offers to show advertisements.
Lauda is intensively looking for earning opportunity in the name of ACE and ALU.

The recent DT members The Pharmacist and actmyname are still competing with rest of forum members for selling their avatar and signature spaces.

(actmyname was in bitsler camp for more than one year and The Pharmacist always competes in Yahoo's altcoin camps.)

Now, after they have the power to disqualify any forum members to lessen the completion to get slots, how we can believe that they will not misuse their DT power ?

(I assume these people must have tons of alt accounts and they want to grab more slots as much as possible)

Until Lauda started managing bitmixer camp, it (the cat) never bothered about account dealing nor shit posting even it was a staff and DT member for years. Why suddenly started giving neg trust to 1000s of accounts along with competing with rest of forum members to earn more.

The clear breach of trust system guidelines for personal benefits

As per theymos' guidelines on trust system, a feedback should not be based on quality of posts.

- Do not rate people based on the quality of their posts.

But these people are providing rating only based on quality of posts whereas "Report to moderator' option is available everywhere or SMAS black-listing also an option against quality of posting.


The request
Please include the members into DT who are not into a situation where they will not misuse their power. When a DT member's behaviors is changing, please monitor them closely.

They were added by me directly not via my recommendation.

Most people that have been here for a long time with good ratings (like myself) do not really compete for campaign spots. I have not formally applied for a slot for 2+ years and have no requirements post wise. Being in the DT network does not get you any such benefits it only causes you headaches. Being trusted means any rating you leave is put under a microscope (as it should be). Both The Pharmacist and actmyname are double checking any of their old feedbacks to make them as error free as possible since their feedback shows up by default.
 
I have also reached out to Theymos to see what his stance on red trust for shit posting is and will let you guys know. This forum has gone so far down hill from the bad posts for pay that it is almost useless. The hope is with a threat of ruined accounts people will behave better...

I wish you luck in the awesome endeavor of getting rid of the shit posts. I hope things work out well so that more conversations can happen on this forum like they should.

[ImHash]

I have also reached out to Theymos to see what his stance on red trust for shit posting is and will let you guys know. This forum has gone so far down hill from the bad posts for pay that it is almost useless. The hope is with a threat of ruined accounts people will behave better...

When they are tagged, More noob accounts will post crap to rank up and join again, This will worsen the situation.

[Don Pedro Dinero]

The hope is with a threat of ruined accounts people will behave better...

Or that shitcampaigns will start accepting people with negative trust, thus making the work useless.

[Lauda]

When they are tagged, More noob accounts will post crap to rank up and join again, This will worsen the situation.

I believe that if you let them do what they want, as already shown, that the infestation will be much greater.

The hope is with a threat of ruined accounts people will behave better...

Or that shitcampaigns will start accepting people with negative trust, thus making the work useless.

I have no problem tagging projects who employ corrupt managers / do not employ managers / accept managers or users with negative ratings.

[aTriz]

For example,
hilariousandco and Lutpin are not competing for earning opportunity but accepting offers to show advertisements.
Lauda is intensively looking for earning opportunity in the name of ACE and ALU.

Lutpin is in ace. Hilarious and co has his main account in coinroll and alt in chipmixer although he is selling his avatar space for both accounts.

The recent DT members The Pharmacist and actmyname are still competing with rest of forum members for selling their avatar and signature spaces.

(actmyname was in bitsler camp for more than one year and The Pharmacist always competes in Yahoo's altcoin camps.)

Now, after they have the power to disqualify any forum members to lessen the completion to get slots, how we can believe that they will not misuse their DT power ?

Problem here is, the people they tag for being shitposters are not competition for the high paying hero slots that the new dt member's are after. They usually tag senior and below members and users that have spammy posts which would have never made it in the campaigns anyways.

Those were my altcoin campaigns 

Until Lauda started managing bitmixer camp, it (the cat) never bothered about account dealing nor shit posting even it was a staff and DT member for years. Why suddenly started giving neg trust to 1000s of accounts along with competing with rest of forum members to earn more.

Adding to what lauda said, she won't be getting any extra money. The manager would get a set amount of payment and not any extra for tagging people. In fact she's wasting her own time tagging accounts.

[xxxgoodgirls]

Problem here is, the people they tag for being shitposters are not competition for the high paying hero slots that the new dt member's are after. They usually tag senior and below members and users that have spammy posts which would have never made it in the campaigns anyways.

Actually I have been given red trust (I never join signatures campaign tho, this was an exception).

[Lauda]

Problem here is, the people they tag for being shitposters are not competition for the high paying hero slots that the new dt member's are after. They usually tag senior and below members and users that have spammy posts which would have never made it in the campaigns anyways.

Actually I have been given red trust (I never join signatures campaign tho, this was an exception).

You may be competition in unmanaged campaigns to other shitposters, but not to the user that gave you the rating.

[Quickseller]

who are in the DT1? why the trust system is not decentralized? why Theymos leave the trust system in the hand of the abusers?

DT1:
    theymos (1)
    HostFat (1)
    dooglus (1)
    Maged (1)
    dserrano5 (1)
    OgNasty (1)
    Tomatocage (1)
    SaltySpitoon (1)
    philipma1957 (1)
    Cyrus (1)
    Blazed (1)
    hilariousandco (1)
    OldScammerTag (1)

It is very decentralized. 

I think you are confused about the meaning of “decentralized”. There are thousands if not millions of people who use the forum. There are 12 who are directly trusted by default trust. To make matters worse, there are only a small handful of people who unilaterally give out negative ratings on their own accord, without any input from the community, who brushes off any criticism as being given by “scammers” have zero ownership interest in the forum and were in no way selected by the community.

[Lauda]

I'm a scammer who is still butthurt for being exposed.

FTFY.
All you really care about is your account farming and account trading business. Pretending that it is otherwise isn't working as it used to, so suck it up buttercup.

[Quickseller]

I'm a scammer who is still butthurt for being exposed.

FTFY.
All you really care about is your account farming and account trading business. Pretending that it is otherwise isn't working as it used to, so suck it up buttercup.

This is literally exactly what I am referring to above...

[Lauda]

This is literally exactly what I am referring to above...

You are literally, objectively, in every conceivable way, a sad-little scammer. Therefore, it does not apply.

[OgNasty]

I have also reached out to Theymos to see what his stance on red trust for shit posting is and will let you guys know.

If his reply is the below, what would be your response? 

- Do not rate people based on the quality of their posts.

[otrkid70]

I have also reached out to Theymos to see what his stance on red trust for shit posting is and will let you guys know.

If his reply is the below, what would be your response? 

- Do not rate people based on the quality of their posts.

I think DT users such as yourself Ognasty and Blazed will have to pressure him to get a clear answer on this.  You 2 users are at the top of the DT food chain and i think only users with your status are capable of getting him to crack under pressure. It would be nice to hear his Final view on the matter.