[ANN - ICO] PeerAtlas: Improve life by making all medical information free

[colinclosser]

This is pretty intense for an opening line...'permanent' is never the case with anything.

Shakespeare had some intense opening lines, too. Try telling the encyclopedia industry that their pay model was not permanently destroyed by crowdsourcing. I'm comfortable with calling a successful displacement of the subscription model 'permanent'. Young doctors raised around a trustworthy free medical resource will never go back.

Who gets to decide who is 'qualified' enough to participate.

Well at first I do, along with Brad, and we're physicians. "Qualified" in this context means a medical degree, most likely an M.D. or equivalent. Yes we are inspired by the spirit of Wikipedia, but PeerAtlas is not Wikipedia, so don't get it twisted. Medical decision making and treatment is every bit as serious as the military. Wikipedia doesn't have peer review. "Peer" is literally in our name

How to you plan on separating the qualified community from the unqualified community?

By evaluating their...qualifications. We are doctors. Doctors are public figures. And again, the peer review process is a further safeguard

will each article be a true peer review from qualified individuals?

Yes.

 I see that you have civilian accounts.  Are they able to take part in such votes?

No.

Even sites like UpToDate tie each individual amount of CME to each article that you search for on their site.  Are you implying that one could simply buy enough CME for the year and not have to read articles, takes quizzes, etc?

You can't 'buy' CME. You have to earn it through research and use of the platform, the same as with the gold standard, UpToDate. Once healthcare professionals have earned the CME, we will redeem them for ATLAS tokens.

BRAVO!  This was a welcome part of the paper!

PeerAtlas anticipates a shifting focus towards the use of
AI (Artificial Intelligence).

Brad's personal interest is reducing physician error and improving outcomes though eventually introducing machine learning to medical treatment and decision making.
In the fifth century A.D., Saint Patrick cast all of the snakes out of Ireland by driving them into the sea. My personal interest, to keep our platform free from special interest dollars, is a smaller task.

Thanks for your interest in our project and all the good questions.

Colin Closser M.D.

[cryptocommoner]

Shakespeare had some intense opening lines, too. Try telling the encyclopedia industry that their pay model was not permanently destroyed by crowdsourcing. I'm comfortable with calling a successful displacement of the subscription model 'permanent'. Young doctors raised around a trustworthy free medical resource will never go back.

Excellent analogy.  I imagine it is smart to make an impactful opening line to grab the attention of the reader.

Well at first I do, along with Brad, and we're physicians. "Qualified" in this context means a medical degree, most likely an M.D. or equivalent. Yes we are inspired by the spirit of Wikipedia, but PeerAtlas is not Wikipedia, so don't get it twisted. Medical decision making and treatment is every bit as serious as the military. Wikipedia doesn't have peer review. "Peer" is literally in our name

Thank you for this response.  I did not intend on getting it 'twisted'.  Touche' with the 'Peer' is literally in our name.  Wikipedia has appointed fact-checkers, but you are correct in that it is certainly not a peer review.

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How to you plan on separating the qualified community from the unqualified community?

By evaluating their...qualifications. We are doctors. Doctors are public figures. And again, the peer review process is a further safeguard

Do you plan on accepting other disciplines for different conditions?  There are multiple 'doctors' in the medical field: MD/DO, DPT, OD, PharmD, DNP, ect.
I would expect a multidisciplinary approach to the medical decision making as is the push in the medical field currently.  As you are well aware, the typical hospital rounding team in a teaching hospital consists of an attending physician, residents and interns, clinical pharmacy specialists, nutrition, charge/floor nurse, and associated students in those fields.
The 'push' was apparent at my school at least.  Interprofessional care is the future to ensure the best care is given to the patient and that is what I preached to my students.  I see this as a tool to encourage contribution from multiple specialties and sub-specialties in order to get the most appropriate decision.

Yes.
No.

Thank you for the clarification regarding who is able to vote.

You can't 'buy' CME. You have to earn it through research and use of the platform, the same as with the gold standard, UpToDate. Once healthcare professionals have earned the CME, we will redeem them for ATLAS tokens.

Forgive me, but from your wording in the whitepaper: 'Secondly, medical professionals using the site will accumulate continuing medical education (CME) credits that will be redeemable through the site in exchange for ATLAS tokens.'
I see this as only being able to redeem the CME by losing ATLAS tokens.  Are you saying that it is the other way around?  You earn CME through the site and then get a to-be-determined amount of ATLAS tokens for earning said CME?

Brad's personal interest is reducing physician error and improving outcomes though eventually introducing machine learning to medical treatment and decision making.
In the fifth century A.D., Saint Patrick cast all of the snakes out of Ireland by driving them into the sea. My personal interest, to keep our platform free from special interest dollars, is a smaller task.

I honestly hope that you can cast out the snakes of the big industry and allow a comprehensive platform free for the general public.

Thanks for your interest in our project and all the good questions.

Thank you for getting back to me and addressing every question!  I look forward to your further replies.

[colinclosser]

I see two important questions in the latest post.

Do you plan on accepting other disciplines for different conditions?  There are multiple 'doctors' in the medical field: MD/DO, DPT, OD, PharmD, DNP, ect.

In general, having attained a high level of education in a specialty is best when writing articles about that specialty, although simply having a degree is not enough to make a fantastic resource. Let me elaborate.

The information has to be high quality, and the information has to be trusted by professional users. I can say at this point that we will accept contributions from users that create trust from civilians and professionals alike in areas which they are qualified. Additionally, I am very aware that midlevel care providers can be far more competent in certain areas than the attending physicians because they benefit from specialization and hands-on experience.

To repeat myself, a contributor needs to be both correct, and trusted. In the real world these do not always overlap. People should feel a sense of relief when they use the encyclopedia. I'm being vague on specific degrees at this point because they need to fulfill these two requirements.

I see this as only being able to redeem the CME by losing ATLAS tokens.  

That's correct. Professionals send ATLAS to the foundation and then the foundation redeems CME hours that professionals have accumulated with their boards.

I honestly hope that you can cast out the snakes of the big industry and allow a comprehensive platform free for the general public.

We do too!

[ceferov]

Good to make that free idea  and I like token share  but how will atlas token help to project make that free? Whats the role of this token on project? And I think  if medical information means medical card of each customer then the I think security also matters. Coz those info should be private

[cryptocommoner]

To repeat myself, a contributor needs to be both correct, and trusted. In the real world these do not always overlap. People should feel a sense of relief when they use the encyclopedia. I'm being vague on specific degrees at this point because they need to fulfill these two requirements.

[and]

That's correct. Professionals send ATLAS to the foundation and then the foundation redeems CME hours that professionals have accumulated with their boards.

I'm glad you are considering other specialists.  Correct and trusted is also a little vague, but I would assume that the expert panel from the community would determine this.  I look forward to seeing how things will be implemented.

Now, you shed some more light on something regarding the CME hours in your statement.  You only get the ability to redeem CME for ATLAS IF you have contributed to the project and that article/algorithm/etc was deemed appropriate as above.  I was under the assumption that you would simply gain CME by browsing the encyclopedia similarly to UpToDate.  I understand this a lot better now and it makes perfect sense. 

You may want to update that statement in the whitepaper 

[cryptocommoner]

Good to make that free idea  and I like token share  but how will atlas token help to project make that free? Whats the role of this token on project? And I think  if medical information means medical card of each customer then the I think security also matters. Coz those info should be private

This is a project for a free large-scale medical encyclopedia.  This has nothing to do with medical card for each customer.  Perhaps you are thinking of Medibloc or Medicalchain?  The data from the patients to be used down the line would not actually have to have any PII to benefit the project.  

[colinclosser]

Good to make that free idea  and I like token share but how will atlas token help to project make that free? Whats the role of this token on project? And I think  if medical information means medical card of each customer then the I think security also matters. Coz those info should be private

This is three questions--

1) How will ATLAS token help make the project free?

Issuing a token is the only way that I have figured out how to offer a paid resource for free worldwide, and I've been on this project since 2011. Everybody wants us to not have a token but no one is going to wire me $15MM, and I designed ATLAS as a very efficient, fixed supply token using the very best technology we can get our hands on.

There's conflicts of interest with the advertising-funded and subscription-funded models. ATLAS allows us to not offer subscriptions or sell advertising.

2) Why a token?

ATLAS is:
Borderless - Doctors across the world can tip each other with no restrictions (unlike sending fiat)

Incentive - Holding a significant minority of ATLAS tokens gives the PeerAtlas foundation the ability to fund its more ambitious long-term goals if it is successful in its short-term goals (unlike using someone else's token, and unlike if someone wired me $15MM)

3) How will we protect patient data?

PeerAtlas is starting out as an open source medical encyclopedia. Another more fancy way of saying this, is that it is an evidence-based clinical decision support tool to help medical professionals make decisions.

At this stage in the project, we won't use patient data at all. We aspire to have the high quality of the peer-reviewed resource UpToDate (uptodate.com) but without a subcription-based paywall.

[colinclosser]

I like the idea dev proposed. I think this is a good project.

Thank you  

...(Professionals will) gain CME by browsing the encyclopedia similarly to UpToDate.

This is a true statement, and the established industry standard. UpToDate is the current gold standard online for Western medical information, and American medical licensing boards widely accept CMEs from UpToDate.

[gaurav250387]

ATLAS will transact in two major pathways that directly benefit the project. Firstly, direct donations of ATLAS will be enabled for verified creators of medical articles and
algorithms that the community finds useful.

https://www.peeratlas.org/kyc

[SparkIt]

@bitkoyun

Hello!
Information about important news and updates from PeerAtlas-team could posted in topic "Comparison of existing blockchain projects in the medical field." - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2817316.0

[enflammer]

Hey there, this project is really a great idea and i would like to know 2 things:
- do you already have private investors? the softcap sets to 5M it won't be an easy taks (especially when investors don't see any benefits for their own wallet...)
- what is the point for common people to get ATLAS token? i mean i see the point for professional but i don't get how it will be used by people like me.

Thank you in advance and truely, i believe this is a great project to spread knowledges.

[tuananhdn]

I first learned about the project and found it quite interesting. a project that runs on the NEO platform and projects with a community focus. I joined the telegram and twitter group to follow up and update PeerAtlas news.
thank you

[harrycalik]

It will certainly become a big success as well as useful after a certain period of time. The project has high potential. It will succeed. Good luck team!

[minchubby]

This is a great project and I'm definitely going to invest in the ico. Are you planning on running a bounty programme at all?

Yes they have bounty campaign , and i will send you the link below , go active with great work and you will receive great reward . Thanks for heling Peeratlas spread the word to the world .
Bounty link : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=3433329.0

[minchubby]

This is a scam ICO I would stay far far away before you lose all your money.

Why do you say that ? please give proof or your analyze . Please do not create the FUD here ,in my opinion ,their project is great and developed few years ago , with experience team and far vision .

[minchubby]

Love the concept and mission statement. How can I get involved?

Hi , you need to access to their website here : https://www.peeratlas.com/ , then you click the button " whitelist Open " , then do KYC , wait for their approval . When they confirm youwill receive the email to inform you are in , just wait until ICO time and buy it .

[engkususman]

the concept of the PeerAtlas project is good, a new solution in the field of free medical information, permanently. but there are several similar projects that have been present in the market. I hope the team will work hard and compact in promotion for the bright progress of the PeerAtlas project.

[flysohigh.noshy]

Do you have any plan to hold the bounty campaign? If so, when and what kind of campaigns?  I would love to help spread the world 

[tomalours]

Hello there please find here PeerAtlas French ANN thread !

[french_andrey]

Hello, I understand correctly that CME credits are related to the American health care system? And how will the cooperation with medical specialists from other countries, where there is no CME credit system?