Anybody think the crash is due to market manipulation for Bitcoin Futures?

[Crytptohack]

The BTC futures market derives it's price from BTC, it is a derivative. If someone shorted the BTC futures and lets say it dropped lower than BTC, that would be a divergence in price. Theoretically, someone can then arbitrage between the two and make the difference.

But that is probably not going to happen. Normal markets have pullbacks, corrections and crashes. BTC went from 10k to 20k in a very short period of time, much too fast to sustain the high price and has now 'corrected' to a 'reasonable' price.  That being said, I'm sure it will break the all time high this year and make new ones...

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[grchina]

We will put that theory to the test as cboe(or cmoe forgot the correct spelling ) end at jannuary 25th so we will se how is that influencing the price.Imo its more about tether being pushed out in large amounts that make a difference,just look at the btc volume with less then 500 you can push price up or down for 1k$...

[maxxdxx]

I think it could be manipulation. Bitcoin Futures is basically a bet that the price of Bitcoin will be above or below a price. And the current Bitcoin futures contracts end on January 26th. If we look at the scenario around the last futures expiration on Jan 17th, you can see the clear sign of market manipulation. According to past scenarios price of the Bitcoin should sky rocket to above 15k before this Friday.

[Ohgreatanotherone]

These futures guys are raising the hair at the back of my neck. Probably paving the way for stricter regulations too

[European Central Bank]

i think it's more like a self fulfilling prophecy. people want to find higher authorities to follow no matter what most of them claim.

in reality futures volumes are pathetic and there is no real bitcoin involved but enough people believe it must be more legitimate because wall st brought it so they'll become slaves to it.

traders used to watch okcoin futures carefully. they're gonna watch this even more so. it's dumb but there you go.

[bearex]

I recently watched a video that explained this as being a possible reason. The cutoff date for some of the bitcoin futures was Jan 17th, and I think another one is coming on the 26th. Could it be possible that some whales tried to short the market in order to get a good futures return?

It would be a good time to do so, especially given the annual dip in prices because of the Lunar New Year in Asia. What do you all think?

Exactly what i was thinking. Some whales shorting the market in order to get a "win" from the futures. That is why i am kind of worried for 26th, in case this might happen again. But i really think this time, we will be in bullish mode.

[Firefox07]

You have a point. Maybe the big players or the billionaire are manipulating the market for their own good. This maybe hard to happen but it is posible.

[chefbauer]

Most people in here are saying that after the expiration of the next future contracts on January the 26th, they are going to open long positions over the price. If this happens, i think that the price will go up and it will make a reversal movement. Probably we will hit more than $15,000 soon.

These futures guys are raising the hair at the back of my neck. Probably paving the way for stricter regulations too

[Dragonrage201]

Read that on twitter that the last bitcoin low around $9K happened within minutes of
CBOE futures expiry/settlement last week. While we cannot expect an exact repeat of
 that on 26th CME future expiry but bitcoin is more likely to stay subdued until then. The
big rally should start after that event.

[MMA]

You have a point. Maybe the big players or the billionaire are manipulating the market for their own good. This maybe hard to happen but it is posible.

Yes the possibilities are always there, but still i think that now it is not so easy to manipulate the price of bitcoin, i the investors are a little cautious and that is the reason that the bitcoin price is trading so much stable with a little dump but i think that it will very soon over and investors will very soon become active to invest money in bitcoin and the bitcoin price will once again start increasing to recover its previous price and make new records.

[karma_project]

Unfortunately, I see that the bitcoin is being manipulated. It makes me very sad. I think the price was deliberately lowered by futures and negative news from China.

[SPINPIX]

i don’t know why but it seems that futures are manipulating the bitcoin price, btc reached it’s peak just before the first future launch, after they shorted it, it started it’s decrease that never stopped since that moment, let’s see what will happen the 25 th..i’m A bit scared of a new short

[coin-investor]

Bitcoin has been manipulated since it started it has a domino effect can you see, everytime there is a bad news about bitcoin, price crash soon follows, everytime these big names in the industry announce something positive a surge in price follows after, this has been happening since Bitcoin was created.

[donte872]

These futures guys are raising the hair at the back of my neck. Probably paving the way for stricter regulations too

This is most likely to happen because I realize that the market is heavily influenced by the dominance of big investors from China. This market distortion makes many investors feel very puzzled and anxious, I believe this is entirely due to the influence of the big investors.

[Tuare aget]

I recently watched a video that explained this as being a possible reason. The cutoff date for some of the bitcoin futures was Jan 17th, and I think another one is coming on the 26th. Could it be possible that some whales tried to short the market in order to get a good futures return?

It would be a good time to do so, especially given the annual dip in prices because of the Lunar New Year in Asia. What do you all think?

Yes i am the one who think that this is manipulation of big player from behind the schene.
I think this have two options,
First, this game will over by the big player and tje price will rise again like before.
Second, this price run will stay and try to look for the stable price position.

[ocid]

You have a point. Maybe the big players or the billionaire are manipulating the market for their own good. This maybe hard to happen but it is posible.

Bitcoin prices can indeed be manipulated by big players to achieve success in the future. It is not strange anymore, because they are able to have large capital to manipulate prices in the market. The impact people will feel hesitant and panic selling all the bitcoin it has.

[zerocoolvn]

Nothing happened when the futures contract expired yesterday...

Probably it's not the Bitcoin Futures that caused the crash. Just my observation.

[JetSet11]

Given the sudden reappearance of green today, I think it's safe to assume that bitcoin futures at the very least inspired some investment decisions.

[okissabam]

Anything is possible in the world of crypto so I guess the answer to your question is that it could happen that these whales are playing around the market. And these whales might hold a huge lump sum of the futures too, because as I have observed when the futures was launched; Bitcoins price somewhat increased or maybe it was just a coincidence and now that I think it just had expired I'm seeing greens in my portfolio. But then again I could be wrong.

[experteas2014]

The Bitcoin crash which we all witnessed in the last few weeks was all planned. If you look at all the events which have happened in the past you would realize how it was all staged.

Jamie Dimon of JP Morgan had earlier said that Bitcoin was a Fraud. But a month later (the beginning of this month) he had stated that he regretted what he said about Bitcoin earlier.
Also, all hue and cry about Crypto currency ban in South Korea came out to be a FUD only. Last week it was made clear that major South Korean Banks were planning to open crypto currency exchanges of their own. So all this was just a game to get the price down so that the first of its kind : Bitcoin futures were to to make gains only for the BEARS and who were the those BEARS actually : THESE BANKS. They made a booty there and then they have positioned themselves now at the lowest level possible to acquire Bitcoin and Ethereum at these levels. First, they grabbed your Bitcoin/ETH by selling you a dream token: RIPPLE ( which was all along sponsored by the BANKS).

Overall, the clouds are clearing now and path to flight above is getting clearer with every passing day. Bitcoin will again follow a resounding upward movement and so will ETH. Can't say much the same about Ripple ( as it has been exposed now to be anti-crypto).

Crypto lovers, you are warned not to shelve or offload your BTC or ETH for the love of coins which promise adherence to regulation or banking guidelines. Let it all be CRYPTO. Bitcoin cannot be damned. But yes, it can damn everything in its path.