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January 24, 2018, 11:46:43 PM
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so, why is my merit -1. I don't violate the rules. is it because i post too many in some time ??
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January 24, 2018, 11:49:36 PM
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so, why is my merit -1. I don't violate the rules. is it because i post too many in some time ??

That was me testing a bug that allowed granting negative merits:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2817582.msg28855381#msg28855381
(I chose your post because it's very poor quality)

But don't worry. That was a bug that was fixed.
Now it's showing -1 because of the cache. It should go back to 0 tomorrow.

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January 24, 2018, 11:53:00 PM
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so, why is my merit -1. I don't violate the rules. is it because i post too many in some time ??

That was me testing a bug that allowed granting negative merits:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2817582.msg28855381#msg28855381
(I chose your post because it's very poor quality)

But don't worry. That was a bug that was fixed.
Now it's showing -1 because of the cache. It should go back to 0 tomorrow.
And at that point his merit score will be still be way too high.

(Avogadro's #)*(-1) would be more appropriate.

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January 25, 2018, 12:03:09 AM
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If it could somehow become a currency or a token or an asset in the future, that would be even more awesome.
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January 25, 2018, 12:07:36 AM
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If it could somehow become a currency or a token or an asset in the future, that would be even more awesome.
These are the times I miss the -Merit button (even though it was only used against me and was only available for like 5 minutes).
Merit is your reputation, the quality of your posts, your post history, that's not an asset/token, and certainly not a currency.



All legendary members got 200 sMerit. All Heros got 88 sMerit, dont know the numbers for lower ranks.
(edit: 6 sMerit for full members, 19 sMerit for Senior Members)
There's more to it than that. For example, I only have 46 sMerit
That was my assumption before the thread was released. I've since read up on that.


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January 25, 2018, 12:09:02 AM
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All legendary members got 200 sMerit. All Heros got 88 sMerit, dont know the numbers for lower ranks.
(edit: 6 sMerit for full members, 19 sMerit for Senior Members)

There's more to it than that. For example, I only have 46 sMerit:

For current members, your initial merit score is equal to the minimum required to your rank. Of that, a certain amount (less than the usual half) is spendable. The spendable amount was calculated based on your current rank and the number of activity points you earned in the last year. A Legendary member who hasn't posted in the last year would still be Legendary, but would not have any spendable merit.

So how will this work out? Does merit replace the activity and will there be any reductions in merit for spam?

It looks like the merit system is being added on top of the activity/rank system. So there are now additional requirements before you can attain a new rank. It seems like an account that reaches 60 activity will no longer automatically rank up to Member. They'll now need 10 merit as well.

Regarding reductions:
Quote from: Merit page
You typically cannot lose this merit.
There is currently no such thing as a "demerit". I'm hoping that the positive merits alone will be fine. I could add demerits pretty easily later on if necessary, though.

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January 25, 2018, 12:11:57 AM
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I know you are trying your best to prevent spam posts and fighting multi account farming that most of the campaigns full with this days . And I truly hope that this new system will not became a source of drama in the future . We will see how things will go , Hope it will work .

One question when I press +merit it looks like I can give merit to myself ( Did not really try it ) !! That would be really bad !

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January 25, 2018, 12:18:52 AM
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One question when I press +merit it looks like I can give merit to myself ( Did not really try it ) !! That would be really bad !
No, you can't. Ther will be a error saying you cannot send to yourself.
Already mentioned a few times in this thread, test it.


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January 25, 2018, 12:41:26 AM
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It would be fine if this new adition of Merit score system would increase posts quality and improve communication betwen members with objective posts.

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January 25, 2018, 12:43:04 AM
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I just noticed this meta score. I wonder how it will turn out. If people are going to find a way to abuse them.
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January 25, 2018, 12:47:36 AM
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lauda has 1000 merit Roll Eyes Roll Eyes Roll Eyes
Thaymos  1000 merit

why satoshi has only 250 merit?

Oh, apparently he has not been participating enough in the forum I guess. Yes, I know, this is not a great comment and I don´t expect "merit" for it.

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January 25, 2018, 12:49:50 AM
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One question when I press +merit it looks like I can give merit to myself ( Did not really try it ) !! That would be really bad !
No, you can't. Ther will be a error saying you cannot send to yourself.
Already mentioned a few times in this thread, test it.

So I can "merit" comments that I think are relevant. And apparently there is a limit on the merit I can send to others. I am going to read the post https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0  with the detailed rules of this new spam prevention tool? Which by the way, was kind of needed.

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January 25, 2018, 01:13:32 AM
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yes, they are try to kick spammer by merit point.

i ever thought about 'how difficult to get merit point' you know, not all people read my post. but here we must give the best to make good post, and im sure moderator always see our post and they can send you merit point (if your post useful).

be careful with people that have many account, they can send their merit to their self.

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January 25, 2018, 01:53:55 AM
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I think this is a decent Idea... Although it is prone to abuse by the Multi-Account farming/3rd World Traders/Quickscammer..

also Groups that socialize off forum!

although I guess that type of shit will be evident pretty easily..

and I guess this is easier to understand than the previous ranking system.. Nice effort Theymos

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January 25, 2018, 01:54:36 AM
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I wonder if *merit trading* will be bannable. I can totally see people trying to buy/sell their sMerit.

I think, this "merit trading" (like you said) should be banned. The sense of this MERIT thing will be useless.

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I know you are trying your best to prevent spam posts and fighting multi account farming that most of the campaigns full with this days . And I truly hope that this new system will not became a source of drama in the future . We will see how things will go , Hope it will work .

One question when I press +merit it looks like I can give merit to myself ( Did not really try it ) !! That would be really bad !
Agree with you bro. I hope that this move by the administrator can combat spamming very well. My fear of this system is when someone get biased. He/she will give merits to someone he knew and his friend. What will happen to the others who don't have connections and friends. The drama will come in, many will cry.

I hope that it does not happened. Merits should be given to someone who deserves it.
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January 25, 2018, 01:58:30 AM
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I have just discovered the same myself and I was about to put  the same question. Did anyone find a post where this new feature is explained?

If anyone know please posting it here cause i allready search all around this forum and cant find anything about it.

You can check the update here: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0

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January 25, 2018, 03:17:58 AM
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Seems like a pretty weird system that could become abused and corruputed by people that are running multiple accounts that are high up (hero+) Then again, I guess I'll give it a try and see what happens, the worst thing that occurs is that the community doesn't support it and the whole thing is scrapped.

I guess anything (as of right now) is better than the current spam infested system.




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January 25, 2018, 04:05:09 AM
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This Merit system sounds interesting to me but it just made bitcointalk a whole more complicated to me than it already is Smiley

Iv been actually trying to fully understand it since the last 2 hours and I am still confused about many many issues!

Anyways am glad because that shows bitcointalk is growing and expanding and we are still one of the elites by being here first Smiley

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January 25, 2018, 04:12:34 AM
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Yeah, this is just going to turn into Twitter v2. Instead of follow-back it's going to be merit back. Community coins will love it at first, then they will see some tyranny. People will demand merit for airdrops. Merit for tokens, merit for btc.

I understand they want to separate the good posters from the spammers, but this could go very wrong.
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