Merit and New rank system in Bitcointalk

[aervin11]

Maganda, pero iniisip ko paano kung wala namang magme-merit sayo kahit gaano pa ka "quality" ang posts mo? I know we are encouraged to give merits pero we are not forced to do so, diba? I'm still on my my way of sinking it in.

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

The forum ranking system is a bit complicated now... It'd be nice if someone made an infographic explaining activity and merit.

If you want to be a merit source:

Collect TEN posts that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread.

Dito po. Kung batid nyo naman po na wala kayong nakukuhang merits kahit na mataas ang quality ng posts nyo ay pwede kayong mag apply bilang SOURCE ng Merits. Piling miyembro lang ang pipwede dito dahil ang unang kwalipikasyon ay pagpost ng magandang kalidad at pag ikaw ay nakapasa ay makakabahagi ka na ng merit sa mga undervalued posts. Mag tatagal ay masusulosyonan na yang problemang ating kinakaharap sa ngayon.

[danim1130]

Maganda, pero iniisip ko paano kung wala namang magme-merit sayo kahit gaano pa ka "quality" ang posts mo? I know we are encouraged to give merits pero we are not forced to do so, diba? I'm still on my my way of sinking it in.

Sobrang hirap nito sa tingin ko eh papaano yung mga full member na mag Sr na this week halimbawa, meron silang 100 merits tapos hindi sila mag rarank up if wala silang macollect na 250 merits. nakakafrustrate yun for sure.

[cleygaux]

Seems very useful in eliminating and halting newbie accounts maraming maiistock na account sa Member rank kasi medyo maraming merit ang kilangan bago makapgrank up sa Full member tama yung ibang member dito hindi maiiwasan ang may magbenta ng merit lalo na pag mataas ang presyo lol hindi lang ako sure kung may rules na den na bawal ang magbenta ng merit.  

[prince05]

Sa tinging ko this will encourage us more to do quality posts yung tipong pabonggahan na ng post. Yung post na dapat pag isipan hindi yung post na kinuha lng kung saan saan, ika nga labanan ng magagaling mag post. Since binabayaran ka naman sa mga signature campaigns ng mga post dito mas maigi na din cguro na gandahan na natin yung mga post. Sa mga nag sasabi na quality na yung post mo pero sa iba hindi pala so may problem pa sa post mo so dapat ma impress mo talga ang readers sa mga pinopost, sayang din kasi yung mga binabayad ng mga campaigns kung magpopost ka lng ng mediocre post. May mga nag sasabi din na pweding laruin yung system, sa tingin ko yes pwede pero sabi naman ni theymos there will be implementing rules to come  kung may sisira sa systema. Ang mahirap lng dito pahirapan na tlga ang pag rank up. Pero at least you earned what you work hard for.

[uelque]

Ang hirap na talaga mag pa rank ngayon eh pano kung okay naman ang post then nasakanila din kasi kung mag bibigay sila ng merit sa post mo pano sir kung pwede kaya sabihin na i memerit back kita kung imemerit moko ? Pano kung may ganung thread mag kakaroon kaya sya ng negative trust nun sir rickbig?

Yun nga din ang tanong ko. i just want to say thank you narin joseph for meriting me. nag merit back ako from one of your reply just to say thank you. hindi naman siguro bawal.

Merit back as an acknowledgement? bawal po siguro yun!!

Suggest ko po na magmerit lang tayo sa mga post with high quality content and has wide useful information just like OP's post na kung saan ko nalaman ang pinakang purpose ng merit. Salamat dahil nirepost mo'to dito at dapat irepost din ito ng ibang nationalities on their respective boards para makita rin ng iba kasi di sa lahat ng pagkakataon makikita nila ang new rule na inimplement ni theymos.

Sa tingin ko okay ito dahil nga ifoforced nito ang mga tao dito sa forum na magpost ng matataas na kalidad ng post, male-less pa ang spammer at account farmers.. Sana nga lang hindi ito magamit sa masamang paraan!!!  

[jorenpo]

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grabe to. mas lalong humirap na yung ranking system. malas mo kung mag rarank up ka na pala dapat kaso di ka pa umabot sa merit na need mo tapos wala pang nag bibigay sayo ng merit.

pros:

- dadami ang mga quality na post na makikita natin ngayon na may kabuluhan talaga.
- kawawa yung mga may farm account kasi mahihirapan sila mag parank up = more stakes sa mga bounty campaign


cons:

- dadami yung mag popost ng kung ano ano. imbis na icocomment nalang syempre mas malaki yung tyansa na maka received ng merin kung post mismo.
- mahihirapan ka mag rank up kung kulang pa ang merit mo.

[Adreman23]

Maganda naman ang merit system dahil ma po forced talaga tayo na gumawa ng constructive at high quality na mga post at pag nangyari yun mas mapapaganda ang pagbabasa ng mga threads at replies dahil mawawala na o kaya mababawasan na ang mga low quality at spam post. Kayat mas magiging kapaki pakinabang at madami tayong ma aabsorb na kaalaman sa pagbabasa lang dito sa forum. Pero may dis advantage din kasi sa tingin ko maglalabasan yung mga magbebenta o bibili ng smerit nila. O kaya gagawa sila ng mga grupo sa labas ng furom na merit groups at sila sila din ang mag sesendan ng mga smerit. At cguro dagdag trabaho din eto sa mga mga mag tse tsek ng pag bigay ng smerit kung high quality nga ba ang nabigyan ng smerit. Pero siguro kaya nilagay eto dahil alam nila na magiging mabuti eto dito sa bitcointalk. Kaya dapat nalang nating sundin at pagbutihin dahil para din eto sa development ng bawat isa.

[Fastserv]

pahirapan sa mga mag sisimula pa lang

bakit naman mahihirapan kung hindi ka naman pinipilit sa kung ano dapat mo gawin di ba? kung nahihirapan ka magpa rank up, hindi naman talaga importante yan dito, para yan sa mga nagmamadali makapa signature campaign lang

[sheenshane]

pahirapan sa mga mag sisimula pa lang

bakit naman mahihirapan kung hindi ka naman pinipilit sa kung ano dapat mo gawin di ba? kung nahihirapan ka magpa rank up, hindi naman talaga importante yan dito, para yan sa mga nagmamadali makapa signature campaign lang

All i can say is just post regularly quality post i'm sure hindi ka mahihirapan, and for those post who have thought and relevant with the topic.
I think merit is the best way to avoid spamming on thread also those shit posters and most especially for newbies member here in forum.
Practice your self guys yung hindi lang payment from signature ang habol natin or just having a counted shit post just to rank up, besides we are giving good post here in forum to the sewer.

[LogitechMouse]

Ako ang opinion ko dito maganda ito kasi tataas kahit papaano ang mga magpopost ng mga may magagandang kalidad. In short, mababawasan ang shitposters dito sa forum.

Isang naiisip ko din ay sa signature campaign. Ang mga ICO na may signature campaign ay di lang babase sa ating mga activities but pati na din sa ating mga merit. Siguro may additional stakes/shares/points ang may mataas na merit.

Although may mga benefits ito, may nakita akong isang loophole. Since pwede tayong magshare ng points sa kahit sino, pwede nilang pagkakitaan itong merit by giving the spendable merit in exchange for bitcoin or altcoins. Ito palang ang nakita kong loophole sa ngaun.

Advice ko lang sa ating mga pinoys. Dapat matutunan na natin ang magenglish nang walang baluktot para makasabay tau sa mga english- speaking countries. Nakakahiya kasi eh tinatawag taung mga SHITPOSTERS. Dapat matuto tau para di tau tawagin na gnyan ansakit eh.

[unplug]

Hello guys,

Gusto ko sana i discuss natin dito yung regarding sa Merit and New rank system na inimplement ni master theymos.

Here is the link para sa mga hindi pa nakaka alam : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0

Here is the link para makita mo ang MERIT mo and remaining sMerit (Sendable Merit) : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit

Ano sa tingin nyo? may positive and negative impact ba ito sa atin?

In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks. The required scores are:

Rank	Required activity	Required merit
Brand new	0	0
Newbie	1	0
Jr Member	30	0
Member	60	10
Full Member	120	100
Sr. Member	240	250
Hero Member	480	500
Legendary	Random in the range 775-1030	1000

You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source). I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

There is currently no such thing as a "demerit". I'm hoping that the positive merits alone will be fine. I could add demerits pretty easily later on if necessary, though.

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

The forum ranking system is a bit complicated now... It'd be nice if someone made an infographic explaining activity and merit.

If you want to be a merit source:

Collect TEN posts that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread.

Trivia:

For current members, your initial merit score is equal to the minimum required to your rank. Of that, a certain amount (less than the usual half) is spendable. The spendable amount was calculated based on your current rank and the number of activity points you earned in the last year. A Legendary member who hasn't posted in the last year would still be Legendary, but would not have any spendable merit.

If someone sends you 1 merit, the 0.5 sMerit is not wasted; it is just not shown until you get another merit point.

Pasensya po, peru parang hindi ko masyadong ma intindihan ang merit ehh. May mga tanong po ako sana sagutin niyo sa mga nakakaalam.
1. Pano/anong gagawin para magka remit?
2. Kailangan ba talaga na ikaw ang mag post nang topic para magkaremit?
3. Ang pag reply o pag qoute nang topic ay may makukuha din bang remit? Salamat po sa sasagot 😊

[quierx16]

Pasensya po, peru parang hindi ko masyadong ma intindihan ang merit ehh. May mga tanong po ako sana sagutin niyo sa mga nakakaalam.
1. Pano/anong gagawin para magka remit?
2. Kailangan ba talaga na ikaw ang mag post nang topic para magkaremit?
3. Ang pag reply o pag qoute nang topic ay may makukuha din bang remit? Salamat po sa sasagot 😊

1. magkaka merit ka kung may mag bibigay sayo ng merit. Hindi ito basta basta na eearn lang.
2. kahit sa comment/reply lang pwede ka mag ka merit basta may mag share sayo.
3. tulad ng nasa number 2.

[FostTheGreat]

Maraming tons pros and cons.

Pero pinaka naiisip ko dito pwede ka na bumili ng merits eh :/ baka gawing business talaga itong forums, paano naman yung iba na nagpopost talaga at informative. I hope magkaroon ng kusa yung iba na kapag informative yung post or nasagot yung tanong nila mag kusa mag bigay ng merit. Dahil to sa mga shtposters eh, sa totoo lang kaya ginawa yung system.. Sana wag na sila dumami.

[btsjimin]

I think maganda ito para naman hindi na ma negative trust yung mga pinoy for posting no quality post. Kasi iba naman kasi yung trust system eh dapat lng yung sa marketplace, scamming feedback etc. mapagkakamalan tuloy mga pinoy na mga scammer. Gusto ko itong merit system hopefully hindi ito ma e-exploit. Magtulungan na lng din tayong mga pinoy para mapa member natin yung mga qualified at yung legit accounts tlga.

May point ka dyan.
Ayos nga na may merit upang maging mas maayos at mas lalo pa natin pagbutihan ang pagpost ng good quality upang mas hindi tayo mabigyan ng negative trust o ma-ban.

[s4mp1nt0]

Maraming tons pros and cons.

Pero pinaka naiisip ko dito pwede ka na bumili ng merits eh :/ baka gawing business talaga itong forums, paano naman yung iba na nagpopost talaga at informative. I hope magkaroon ng kusa yung iba na kapag informative yung post or nasagot yung tanong nila mag kusa mag bigay ng merit. Dahil to sa mga shtposters eh, sa totoo lang kaya ginawa yung system.. Sana wag na sila dumami.

sa tingin ko hindi din eh kase konte lang yung smerit na nareceived katulad ko 6 lang yung smerit ko. sobrang limited lang ng smerit kase di naman naeearn yung merit eh maliban nalang kung may mag bigay o merit source.

[jameskarl]

Maganda naman siya para mabago naman sa patingin ng tao at para mabawasan narin yong mga spammer kahit positive or negative yong impact sa atin di naman po tayo ma aapektohan niyan kasi naman tayo spammer or iba pa kaya wag matakot masaya nalang kayo kasi para gaganda pa itong bitcointalk natin

[JobelleLaRosa]

This new system is a great opportunity for us newbies specially me that is just starting to explore the bitcoin world, to become a responsible member. Because this will encourage us to have quality and informative posts here at our local forum before we could rank up. And we will be more competent to enter the foreign forums, and not become shitposters.
But very unfortunate to those members that will rank up supposedly and will still need to earn more merits before they can do so.

[eann014]

Hello guys,

Gusto ko sana i discuss natin dito yung regarding sa Merit and New rank system na inimplement ni master theymos.

Here is the link para sa mga hindi pa nakaka alam : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0

Here is the link para makita mo ang MERIT mo and remaining sMerit (Sendable Merit) : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit

Ano sa tingin nyo? may positive and negative impact ba ito sa atin?

In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks. The required scores are:

Rank	Required activity	Required merit
Brand new	0	0
Newbie	1	0
Jr Member	30	0
Member	60	10
Full Member	120	100
Sr. Member	240	250
Hero Member	480	500
Legendary	Random in the range 775-1030	1000

You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source). I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

There is currently no such thing as a "demerit". I'm hoping that the positive merits alone will be fine. I could add demerits pretty easily later on if necessary, though.

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

The forum ranking system is a bit complicated now... It'd be nice if someone made an infographic explaining activity and merit.

If you want to be a merit source:

Collect TEN posts that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread.

Trivia:

For current members, your initial merit score is equal to the minimum required to your rank. Of that, a certain amount (less than the usual half) is spendable. The spendable amount was calculated based on your current rank and the number of activity points you earned in the last year. A Legendary member who hasn't posted in the last year would still be Legendary, but would not have any spendable merit.

If someone sends you 1 merit, the 0.5 sMerit is not wasted; it is just not shown until you get another merit point.

This information was very helpful for everybody. I am also shocked about the merit and I now understand what is it for. I think it is also good for this forum so that it will lessen farm accounts here and will maintain the forum with a good quality posting. I think it will be the best way for us to to know also who's faking and who's not.

[LogitechMouse]

Maraming tons pros and cons.

Pero pinaka naiisip ko dito pwede ka na bumili ng merits eh :/ baka gawing business talaga itong forums, paano naman yung iba na nagpopost talaga at informative. I hope magkaroon ng kusa yung iba na kapag informative yung post or nasagot yung tanong nila mag kusa mag bigay ng merit. Dahil to sa mga shtposters eh, sa totoo lang kaya ginawa yung system.. Sana wag na sila dumami.

Yes di maiiwasan ito since need natin lahat ng merits, may magbebenta ng mga merits sa iba pero patago. Kung nakikita naman nila siguro na magaganda ang mga posts natin, di sila magdadalawang isip na bgyan tau ng merit at kung deserved nating mabgyan eh di bbgyan nila tau (SANA NGA)  . Kasalanan to ng mga shitposters kasi eh . Masakit pero un ang totoo.

[connesa]

Hello guys,

Gusto ko sana i discuss natin dito yung regarding sa Merit and New rank system na inimplement ni master theymos.

Here is the link para sa mga hindi pa nakaka alam : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350.0

Here is the link para makita mo ang MERIT mo and remaining sMerit (Sendable Merit) : https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit

Ano sa tingin nyo? may positive and negative impact ba ito sa atin?

In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks. The required scores are:

Rank	Required activity	Required merit
Brand new	0	0
Newbie	1	0
Jr Member	30	0
Member	60	10
Full Member	120	100
Sr. Member	240	250
Hero Member	480	500
Legendary	Random in the range 775-1030	1000

You get merit points when someone sends you some for one of your posts. Additionally, when someone sends you merit points, half of those points can be sent by you to other people.

Certain users are designated as "merit sources". They can create new merit out of nothing, up to a limited number per month (which differs per source). I will not be posting a definitive list of merit sources (so that people don't bug them too much), though you'll soon figure out who they are if you pay attention.

There is currently no such thing as a "demerit". I'm hoping that the positive merits alone will be fine. I could add demerits pretty easily later on if necessary, though.

I'm hoping that this system will increase post quality by:
 - Forcing people to post high-quality stuff in order to rank up. If you just post garbage, you will never get even 1 merit point, and you will therefore never be able to put links in your signature, etc.
 - Highlighting good posts with the "Merited by" line.

While we will not be directly moderating this, I encourage people to give merit to posts that are objectively high-quality, not just posts that you agree with.

The forum ranking system is a bit complicated now... It'd be nice if someone made an infographic explaining activity and merit.

If you want to be a merit source:

Collect TEN posts that have not received nearly enough merit for how good they are, and post quotes for them all in a new Meta thread.

Trivia:

For current members, your initial merit score is equal to the minimum required to your rank. Of that, a certain amount (less than the usual half) is spendable. The spendable amount was calculated based on your current rank and the number of activity points you earned in the last year. A Legendary member who hasn't posted in the last year would still be Legendary, but would not have any spendable merit.

If someone sends you 1 merit, the 0.5 sMerit is not wasted; it is just not shown until you get another merit point.

ang pagkakaintinde ko dito ganito,kapag nabigyan ka ng merit ibig sabihin quality post ung ginawa mo.so para den cyang achievement award na need mo pagtrabahuhan para makuha mo.para sa akin ok to kase mas madami ang maoobliga na palawakin at mging mas interesante ang topic.mas marami tayo pareparehong matututunan.
ggwin ko tong challenge..yes mahrap na mgparank pero if pinghrapan natin ang isang bagay hindi po ba iingatan natin lalo?
well goodluck po sa ating lahat at patunayan natin na dnaman talga tayo ganun kababa gaya ng iniicp nla!
godbless!