Bitcoin price manipulated by Wall Street?

[fellahst]

Some analysts explain the recent decline of Bitcoin price by the Wall Street investors, who tries to enter the market massively for a discount price after the first future contracts expired January 26.

Here a quote from a trader with large followers on Telegram:

Bitcoin price prediction cobe and C.M.E contract is expiring on 26 Jan 2018 on this date after contract expiration we will see biggest Bitcoin pump of history wall street buy back of Bitcoin .Bitcoin future contract mostly got long postion holding which is mainpulated by wall street players  Before 26 Jan 2018 wall street buy altcoins and we will see another huge ATH for altcoins before 26 Jan 2018

What do you think?

[amrulshare]

its true ! some Wall Street investors took an opportunity as investor confidence declined slightly, although some Wall Street investors openly expressed doubts on other cryptocurrencies.

[xiaowu55]

I think it's possible that the investors in Wall Street, for the benefit of it, manipulate bitcoin very well.
It's not the first time they've manipulated the stock market, and we have every reason to believe they're trying to manipulate bitcoin prices.

[Kakmakr]

Institutional capital will always have a massive impact on the small Bitcoin market. As Andreas once said in one of his videos, Wall street traders will eat a sandwich with one hand and push the buttons on a keyboard for a Billion dollar investment with the other hand. <Other people's money>

These people know how to game the system and they have massive amounts of money to manipulate small markets like Bitcoin. The more bitcoins we sell to them, the stronger they will become and the more manipulation will be done in the future.

Take back the power, Hoard your coins!

[HabBear]

Some analysts explain the recent decline of Bitcoin price by the Wall Street investors, who tries to enter the market massively for a discount price after the first future contracts expired January 26.

What do you think?

Well, if Wall Street investors are trying to enter the market to get bitcoin at a discount they weren't involved in the decline. If there was a dump of bitcoin to try to initiate a lower price point, it could have been done by anyone and most likely by someone who is NOT on Wall St. because you'd need a lot of coin to make it happen, and an early adopter would better be able to have that kind of coin.

The reality is that the recent addition of futures to the CME and CBOE has not had an impact on creating more volatility of the price. It has required that futures contract investors own and hold bitcoin. And anyone that owns and holds bitcoin can eventually sell it. But the volatility of futures contracts has zero direct impact on the volatility of buying/selling for bitcoin. Why? Because futures contracts don't hit the blockchain.

[Haley craft]

I think these investment institutions will have a certain impact on the cryptocurrency market, but they can't manipulate the entire cryptocurrency market.
For now, the main impact of the entire cryptocurrency market is the policy of countries, unless Wall Street financial institutions learn about the policies of countries in advance, or they can't control the market.

[Slow death]

he does not provide any concrete evidence is just making assumptions, is very dangerous since he is making these assumptions without at least some basis he is still encouraging people to buy altcoins and because before January 26 altcoins will have ATH... I in the past decided to do an experiment and lost money. I heard advice from someone who swore that altcoin X would have a very large increase so I bought the altcoin X and after some time came the such event of the altcoin X which would cause altcoin X to increase in price and contrary to all optimism on the part of many people, the altcoin X had enormous dump.

then look at this comment as one more comment

[gopaljiverma]

This is certainly possible and lot of big whales do influence the prices. The fact that Bitcoins is not regulated by any country makes the possibility stronger. Only way to fight against these manipulations is by staying invested for long term.

[Nabilog]

Wall street has nothing to do with the cryptocurrency.  One of the factor affect the price are the news of banning and freezing from South Korea, China, India. These three are big players in the market. Their more can shaken the price as well.

[kareninsf]

I dunno- there was a big bitcoin conference in switzerland last week same time as the one in florida- only billionaires attended- not a lot of press about it.....makes me wonder.....http://www.trustnodes.com/2018/01/19/billionaires-meet-blockchain-entrepreneurs-switzerland

[Wind_FURY]

OP, anything is possible. The ongoing massive sell off might also be caused by whales who bought under $5000. I read that Steve Wozniak has already dumped all his coins,  so there must be more like him who might be doing the same.

Plus a simple look at the market, it obviously shows. Is Kwukduck finally right?

[Pursuer]

Some analysts explain the recent decline of Bitcoin price by the Wall Street investors, who tries to enter the market massively for a discount price after the first future contracts expired January 26.

manipulate has always been happening in all markets including bitcoin. and with bitcoin it is just more intense because it is easier to manipulate a small and unregulated market than it is to manipulate a big market like gold for example.
so this is not new!

Here a quote from a trader with large followers on Telegram:

aka a pump and dump scammer!

Bitcoin price prediction cobe and C.M.E contract is expiring on 26 Jan 2018 on this date after contract expiration we will see biggest Bitcoin pump of history wall street buy back of Bitcoin .Bitcoin future contract mostly got long postion holding which is mainpulated by wall street players  Before 26 Jan 2018 wall street buy altcoins and we will see another huge ATH for altcoins before 26 Jan 2018

What do you think?

we will see a rise but not because of this quote.
the same thing happened last year and the 2 years before that. so we have already 3 years of same pattern being repeated. it has nothing to do with CME which only started this year (or Dec 2017).
and the rise is because of the increased adoption and the accumulation that is currently ongoing like it always does.

[tokexchain]

Of course Wall st and trading indexes control the price of BTC somewhat, but this is slowing as mass mainstream adoption takes place! Bitcoin can as is now starting to be regulated, the banks are closing in trying to get their (unfair) share of the Cryptocurrencies - only because they missed out with the archaic financial strongholds. Of course now there is an attempted total wealth reversal by these organisations. There has been some very unfair treatment and downright theft from the Digital economy communities, and for this matter - slowly introducing regulations is a great thing. You cannot control a decentralised monetary system, but you can certainly try to help to make sure it is fair for all and some levels of protection are adhered to!

[Gorgeous011235]

I don't think Bitcoin price can be manipulated by wall street...Futures and Etfs don't affect directly the Bitcoin blockchain..i'd rather think that bitcoin price can be manipulated by a few people who actually hold lots of Bitcoins and this is already happening nowadays with these big pumps and dumps that we have witnessed in the past two months...

[Chrystora123]

cryptocurrency has attracted the attention of investors, indirectly the veterans on the wall street too, if that's the case, just wait until the time happen..

[jackleszz]

Institutional capital will always have a massive impact on the small Bitcoin market. As Andreas once said in one of his videos, Wall street traders will eat a sandwich with one hand and push the buttons on a keyboard for a Billion dollar investment with the other hand. <Other people's money>

These people know how to game the system and they have massive amounts of money to manipulate small markets like Bitcoin. The more bitcoins we sell to them, the stronger they will become and the more manipulation will be done in the future.

Take back the power, Hoard your coins!

Only thing is, bitcoin volume is very far from small. And while some players in wall street could manipulate the bitcoin markets, they would have a much easier time and a better ROI manipulating an alt coin.

[bitbunnny]

When people can't explain the Bitcoin price movement than they always make some conspiracy theories like this one that Wall Street is manipulating the price.
This is not true and has nothing to do with reality, Wall Street doesn't have power over Bitcoin.

[lucas.zimmer]

its true ! some Wall Street investors took an opportunity as investor confidence declined slightly, although some Wall Street investors openly expressed doubts on other cryptocurrencies.

It sounds very logical actually. Market manipulation is the one and only thing that Wall Street guys do the best. There are two possible scenario imoi one of them is they want lower prices to get in, second scenario they want to decrease the bitcoins popularity.

[Qartersa]

When people can't explain the Bitcoin price movement than they always make some conspiracy theories like this one that Wall Street is manipulating the price.
This is not true and has nothing to do with reality, Wall Street doesn't have power over Bitcoin.

Of course Wall Street does not have a power over Bitcoin but you should take the earlier statements with a grain of salt. Wall Street is making some noise right now involving its officials and this, they would definitely not do for nothing. I take it as a propaganda. For one, why would they proudly involve the company they are working for if they do not intend to influence the people at large? This is just one of the many schematic moves that we all have to watch out for because there are die hard players out there who will do everything in their power to buy Bitcoin at a much discounted price. So let us be careful, and not sell as much as possible. We never know the ulterior motives of others so it is best to be wary.

[WhaleSlayer]

Usually when I am reading a news like that which suggest me that the prices will shoot up, I start to suspect that this is a bulltrap and that the prices are instead going to collapse. Deceiving Rumors ...