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January 25, 2018, 11:50:00 AM |
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Greetings, I noticed a strange activity in some topics and most likely discovered a whole bunch of users with some kind of centralized control, whose main task is (probably) to keep topics alive by asking similar, almost meaningless questions and sometimes answering to them from other accounts. I divided the list on some groups, which I called "generations", since these accounts were created in a bunch of different periods. All these accounts have similar characteristics and behavior: 1) Similar ranks and activity within generations; 2) The same topics they post in (look for the last posts, it's almost exclusively Edgecoin, but also the some of them post in Coinlance Airdrop and Futourist. Before that they were all posting in the same threads too. It can be easily verified by looking into posts history. I'll show a couple of examples in the end). 3) Similar dates of registration. There are 5 "generations" I managed to find: a) First generation (19-22 May, 2011);
b) Second generation (May(20, 26) and October(21, 27), 2012) - some of them (3 out of 4) have more personal info than other generations;
c) Pre-third generation (October 12, 2017) - the most active of them all. All are registered on the same day. Have 250-340 posts.
d) Third generation (October 20-21, 2017) - the biggest one. 18 accounts were registered within 2 days and have so much in common. Strange!
e) Fourth generation. The last one. Were registered in a period 13-15 of November.[/li]
4) Russian speakers (see their first posts); 5) Most of them started to post something in the end of October (20-22) of the 2017. Except 2nd and pre-third generations. 1st generation exlpains23 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13913akramali - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13668valessiobrito - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14302farland7 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14338ZellaAnders - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13875candiela - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13885chenjkai - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13934Winifred364 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14160susankhardman - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13060parttime38 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=14195Moore787 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=13428AshdiD22 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=134062nd generation boris0148 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=70786raudisomiya - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=70121ettaburger4 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=58717derverss - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=58282Pre-3rd generation alexsmalex - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1209122snos-boss - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1209105persefona - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1209090sahabond - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=11883033rd genration lina.potushanskaya.84 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1232552sabina.gnusareva - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1232529evgenij.burchak - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1235277yaroslava.pryanchikova - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1236083mediocre777 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1232588fbatyshev_007 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1233101stalin2517 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1231932Kpss_pro - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1231924Lina_Malina - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1231942Mix_Fix - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1232346mad_max777 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1231918hov777 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1231878kept-1986 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1235294armchair-84 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1235324choice84 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1236115avtaev.savva - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1236064obulynin - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1236149oficman - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1232342napkin1989 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=12353404th generation angrygerl - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1314665orchideja75 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1307499PchelkaMaja95 - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1311196Letopisets - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1308204If you look into the last messages of all these accounts you will see that they post their messages only in a couple of the same topics in a similar order. This guy doesn't even try to hide and just login into his accounts one by one, asks some stupid question, re-login with another one and answers to himself from another account. Here are typical examples, which can be seen through the whole history of his messages: A user sabina.gnusareva posts a message in CROM ICO ANN and you can scroll down a little bit to see other members of this list (lina.potushanskaya.84, mediocre777, fbatyshev_007, exlpains23, etc). A user lina.potushanskaya.84 posts a message in 1World Tokens ICO ANN. The same story here. Scroll down and see people from the list (mediocre777, fbatyshev_007, exlpains23, etc) I know that my proofs aren't 100%, but can you disagree that it is pretty strange? Maybe it's not one guy, but rather some group of individuals, I don't know. Maybe it's a promotion service or someone creates a lot of accounts to participate in bounty campaigns. Just wanted to inform you about this finding. |
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Kvanko (OP)
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January 25, 2018, 11:58:06 AM
Last edit: January 25, 2018, 10:10:27 PM by Kvanko |
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I managed to find even more of similar groups of accounts. Here they are. I made a new post, because I don't want to make a mess. All these users write similar posts (ask stupid questions). Take a look at their messages. They all post in the same threads (Saifu, Setcoin, FreelancerCoin, OKO, Chatello, Lucyd, Mobilink and the newest - STYRAS ). All Russian-speakers. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1344769https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1341389https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1383088https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1383566https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1341533https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1384310https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1343931https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1383858https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1330399https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1383054https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1384493https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1340798https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1341435https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1363586https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1328340https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1383150https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1341465https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1383304https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1383737https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1368369https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1383027https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1328485https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1341273https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1383646https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1341336https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1344622https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1383250https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1347498https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1384512From the same group, but they are not members yet, just newbies. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1417100https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1417025**--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------**And here is another bunch. All are newbies registered on 15 of January. Write in ONLY one thread. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1694571https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1694526https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1694472https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1693472https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1693535https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1694324https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1694385https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1694438https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1693524https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1693585https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1693428https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1693574https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1694359https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1694329https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1694342https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1694461https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1694514https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1694520https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1694453https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1694413https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1694404https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1693548https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1693489https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1693451**--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------**Here is another bunch. This guy even created a thread in Russian local business branch where he offers a service of "Social activity imitation" on this forum and beyond. Here is the thread - https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2741667.0 You can Google translate it, I think everything will be clear enough. He says he has more than 10 accounts and I've found only 8. Maybe others have lower ranks and another date registrations so I can't be sure they are mults of this guy. I checked his last messages and managed to find some of his accounts. They all are registered on 8-9 of November and post in Gelios ANN most of the time. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1295341https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1297383https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1295314https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1297193https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1297315https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1297403https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1297344https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=profile;u=1297225 |
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dhemasm
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January 25, 2018, 12:30:06 PM |
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Looks like 1 person holding the account and using multiple website apps simultaneously. Usually they are account sellers , Airdrop spammer or service providers of "Thread Bumper"on some ico, like the previous case. I'll try to see some other accounts, maybe they post their address and I can make proof that every account is connected. Especially for both accounts is suspicious |
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2girls
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January 25, 2018, 12:58:35 PM |
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I think all these accounts are being used for ICO bumping. Should be tagged.
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Kvanko (OP)
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January 25, 2018, 01:46:05 PM |
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I think all these accounts are being used for ICO bumping. Should be tagged.
Yeah, I think the same. But I don't know how to get rid of them. As far as I know only admins can ban users. We can use "Report to moderator" feature, but I don't know how to use it is this case. So I'm hoping someone from the staff will notice this thread. Or at least someone with green Trust to make them red. |
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marlboroza
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January 25, 2018, 02:00:45 PM |
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~ But I don't know how to get rid of them. As far as I know only admins can ban users. We can use "Report to moderator" feature, but I don't know how to use it is this case.
Report one post and write in comments: "this user is spamming forum with zero value short one line shitposts, check his post history and this thread for more accounts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2821037.0 " If that doesn't help report accounts one by one. If that doesn't help either, report posts one by one. Then go to announcement or bounty thread, report first post and write in comments: "this user is probably using bump service to bump his thread" which is against forum rules anyway. |
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Kvanko (OP)
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January 25, 2018, 02:06:03 PM |
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~ But I don't know how to get rid of them. As far as I know only admins can ban users. We can use "Report to moderator" feature, but I don't know how to use it is this case.
Report one post and write in comments: "this user is spamming forum with zero value short one line shitposts, check his post history and this thread for more accounts https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2821037.0 " If that doesn't help report accounts one by one. If that doesn't help either, report posts one by one. Then go to announcement or bounty thread, report first post and write in comments: "this user is probably using bump service to bump his thread" which is against forum rules anyway. OK, thank you, I'll try to do that. |
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actmyname
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January 25, 2018, 05:07:04 PM
Last edit: January 25, 2018, 05:33:46 PM by actmyname |
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Looked through some accounts. Will start going down the list and tagging as necessary.
It'll take some time though: I like to be thorough and archive all my references.
EDIT: First generation tagged.
EDIT[2]: Second generation tagged.
EDIT[3]: Pre and third generation tagged.
EDIT[4]: Fourth generation tagged. That'll be all for today because the rest is a long, long list.
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Kvanko (OP)
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January 25, 2018, 09:15:32 PM |
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Looked through some accounts. Will start going down the list and tagging as necessary.
Thanks a lot! Glad someone decided to help. |
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Kvanko (OP)
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January 26, 2018, 06:51:01 PM |
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Looked through some accounts. Will start going down the list and tagging as necessary.
It'll take some time though: I like to be thorough and archive all my references.
EDIT: First generation tagged.
EDIT[2]: Second generation tagged.
EDIT[3]: Pre and third generation tagged.
EDIT[4]: Fourth generation tagged. That'll be all for today because the rest is a long, long list.
For some reason all these accounts aren't tagged anymore. Why did you change your mind? |
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actmyname
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January 26, 2018, 06:56:01 PM |
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For some reason all these accounts aren't tagged anymore. Why did you change your mind?
That's partially why I sped up work on merit. I don't agree with using the trust system for pure spam; that's not what it was designed for. Unfortunate. The only way I can punish spammers on a mass scale now is by contributing to signature campaign blacklists, which I have done—I pasted a list to aTriz's thread containing all the spam negatives I sent out.
Merit farmers can still be tagged though. |
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Samarkand
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January 26, 2018, 07:02:10 PM
Last edit: January 26, 2018, 07:14:13 PM by Samarkand |
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...Merit farmers can still be tagged though.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=135065Sent in the last 120 days
Today at 04:46:20 PM: 32 to dimao for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 06:10:17 PM: 18 to dimao for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
Received in the last 120 days
January 25, 2018, 06:24:14 PM: 50 from dimao for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 06:18:38 PM: 14 from darrenwgray for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) He received 50 merits from dimao and sent 50 merits back to dimao in two increments. Alternatively, I could be wrong and this post actually deserves 50 merits: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2145820.msg28907085#msg28907085edit: dimao could potentially be legit according to Kvanko´s post below. I´m still not sure though, because the swap of merits is pretty obvious. |
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Kvanko (OP)
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January 26, 2018, 07:03:20 PM |
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For some reason all these accounts aren't tagged anymore. Why did you change your mind?
That's partially why I sped up work on merit. I don't agree with using the trust system for pure spam; that's not what it was designed for. Unfortunate. The only way I can punish spammers on a mass scale now is by contributing to signature campaign blacklists, which I have done—I pasted a list to aTriz's thread containing all the spam negatives I sent out.
Merit farmers can still be tagged though. OK, thanks for clarification. |
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Kvanko (OP)
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January 26, 2018, 07:11:40 PM |
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...Merit farmers can still be tagged though.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=merit;u=135065Sent in the last 120 days
Today at 04:46:20 PM: 32 to dimao for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 06:10:17 PM: 18 to dimao for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
Received in the last 120 days
January 25, 2018, 06:24:14 PM: 50 from dimao for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored)
January 25, 2018, 06:18:38 PM: 14 from darrenwgray for (Deleted/Off-limits/Ignored) He received 50 merits from dimao and sent 50 merits back to dimao in two increments. Alternatively, I could be wrong and this post actually deserves 50 merits: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2145820.msg28907085#msg28907085No, he deserved it. This user created thread in which he helped a lot of people to audit Twitter accounts with Twitter Audit website. |
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actmyname
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January 27, 2018, 07:27:13 AM |
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Why did you merit my post? Are you trying to bribe me?  Oh well. Time to send those 25 extra sMerits I gained to some useful posts.
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