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Hi, i am not sure i should post this publicly so thoguht i would PM you if thats ok
i have exported the entire history of my wallet
Confirmed Date Type Address Amount ID FALSE 2018-01-26T10:47:16 Sent to 1MD9ARDM2yMJWK35krRnknNB7XGXVbRQnU -0.01893046 2294cb80792a03cb6255961b6908b8254569a77c519eca460c197a49fd3f94e5-000 TRUE 2018-01-14T09:51:21 Sent to 15pWWFAPC7xGsTHNhaWcicRADnRGf63p1P -0.0105 62dc19dfe170b19f8d585b2cdfc68e6dd9f42261258089116c62b238404ab4e7-000 TRUE 2018-01-13T21:04:04 Sent to 12uYtCkeNxMrJRrV5wfZhUCdDiJ79UA2mz -0.1005 4fc63c6079b562c527585759cabed2257daaf098ac1d1cde6a119177e0e0423b-000 TRUE 2018-01-13T12:09:06 Sent to 1LccZXvhsMPHbKYMk2kGXxLYdo4piJNWGM -0.0105 75312e248dba6e72b25d35e2df618aca5cbc43b72680922cd6c7264ac9cb4bdf-000 TRUE 2018-01-12T16:23:05 Sent to 16FHEPFYMiZ6eYnu3Mn6xQJrV88ctXHwYW -0.01 831498f8ee2c210182b65862a51c931723e43122b019d20ab3bc6474fe2d5085-000 TRUE 2018-01-12T15:39:39 Sent to 16NsQfXHt93v88eS3Gt89KTQDMHsHdZm5Y -0.0105 b916fe303317977033e0ef3ee14ec6cd3a20cd3c2050c257f87118ea2456f591-000 TRUE 2014-03-28T15:50:22 Sent to 15EC9F1PtcaJYAZhCRNqfMmB4qoFC4oCQ7 -0.0015 646b9f0b3da6daa9e960c6432f2fa35fe470ed15f5743a5cb7f04f7cfbfe1baa-000 TRUE 2013-11-13T19:53:39 Sent to 1FsdYR2AMwAxajx8SWExCvmGmQeUr5w9NE -0.03474039 9732bc17cd2d3468a1af8e3c3f83a67e87e45b865f10dcc8e15904e1c80da955-000 TRUE 2013-08-30T16:49:06 Sent to 16GkT88ZPcRdsqSM4Bnd7exweRWDekJntV -0.1185 d50f99784e8bf9fe2e1a504cf7c1074e08ac7de27a84769e19ca96cf095a917c-000 TRUE 2013-08-30T16:17:29 Sent to 1DQWptH63n35hU2LksPNU28CKrpLyCAnb -0.13659029 2f87f095450b7427e1349e2bcd547d84da4fec01d01beb91cc7244c3d3e2abe3-000 TRUE 2013-07-24T09:05:18 Sent to 1CzyB8ja1EKvBNYEenHMcRh57DNakFQvLj -0.17153829 56e734f3f5df475f81469a339eb908e8f3e9f941f4ce36cf8d8febc6da24325c-000 TRUE 2013-07-11T09:34:56 Sent to 1MJqiqJixPAF11RmUEEAxGbf6wnUEvoHoT -0.43735742 5c58d346217aacc10e74c430ffc87863969a1522cc761d2be08ddbe11b00518d-000 TRUE 2013-07-10T12:52:46 Sent to 1HqWcLB86YQdrGWYKhfVoqo6zFqGXtyvvb -0.2122773 70bb3f3aac2c44c17c0464ac754c3782af63fc55b1e2095affa074f18dec4180-000 TRUE 2013-06-14T15:27:38 Received with 14G3Tr7PAb2L8xZKy2ib7MH9MscXHkQphj 0.20246875 3fae9880f8a3dc9641a24114f5ab2fd502ae47a179478f5b360ee3c9156c1be1-000 TRUE 2013-06-14T15:09:15 Sent to 1EEbWG1ckF9FGPjL4FSM1wQJryv3pApmAT -0.20296875 83e7b0b792ec52e144adf74a3a68892202863955f3fde8bb8f9619c3e8a06a06-000 TRUE 2013-05-14T16:41:20 Received with 12zMmbzU5VrfdsjqpN5gnwNt65kJW7HaKb 2.707 422c742829cc69aca4767536f659a7efbc5d88e5b58a3c52a425425240e2d17e-000
i am getting very confused to tell the truth
my wallet says i have a balance of 1.43306585 BTC
as you can see from the transaction history nothing much has come or gone since 2013
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January 26, 2018, 02:02:12 PM |
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Your client is not synchronized. If it isn't synchronized, it would only display the correct transactions up to the point for which it is synchronized to. Your transaction was probably dropped by the mempool a long time ago and you can't use that input without first broadcasting the related transaction(s) on the network which is also likely impossible to get.
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January 26, 2018, 02:11:49 PM |
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oops, i posted publicly, oh well, hopefully thats ok
so does that mean i have lost the 1.4 BTC? how can that be?
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January 26, 2018, 02:13:57 PM |
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Things actually start to become rather clear to me...
You started by funding your wallet using tx 422c742829cc69aca4767536f659a7efbc5d88e5b58a3c52a425425240e2d17e (2.707 BTC) and also with a second transaction funding it with ~0.2 BTC. Then you made a series of payments,... The change was always sent back to a change address. You sent ~1.48 BTC to several addresses, minus the fees... So the change sent to your change address in the last transaction you created should have been around ~1.4 BTC ![Smiley](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/smiley.gif) . SOOOO... long story short, i think the last transaction(s) you created didn't get included into a block... The person you were paying wasn't payed, but if you'd wait untill your wallet would synchronise, your balance should indeed be ~1.4 BTC, your wallet will probably rebroadcast the transactions that were dropped from the mempool to... Fixing about everything. In your case, it might be a wise idear to install bitcoin core 0.9 or higher, copy your wallet.dat in the bitcoin data folder, dump your wallet, import all private keys into electrum and pay the person you were going to pay with those dropped transactions. If you don't want to do this, you should export the private key belonging to the change address of the last transaction that was confirmed...
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January 26, 2018, 02:18:48 PM |
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so there is some hope?
i dont have space to synchronize my wallet so do i need to get an external harddrive or something?
sorry, i know nothing!
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January 26, 2018, 02:22:27 PM |
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so there is some hope?
i dont have space to synchronize my wallet so do i need to get an external harddrive or something?
sorry, i know nothing!
Not really, i think you should copy your wallet.dat on a thumbdrive, install a more recent version of bitcoin core that supports dumpwallet on a second PC, copy the wallet.dat to the bitcoin datadir on this second pc, then (without waiting for the full synchronisation) dump the private keys, and import them into electrum. there are (much) faster ways of achieving this, but by using a secondary pc and a copy of your wallet.dat, you minimise the odds of an error. To be honest, i didn't have the energy to crawl trough all those transactions and find out which inputs were used and which outputs were generated, nor did i have the energy to crossreference everything with the addresses you posted, so there's a chance i'm completely wrong... But the numbers do add up to support my hypothesis
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January 26, 2018, 02:28:40 PM |
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sorry, i missed the last part of your last reply
i will try and do that on another computer with more space
thanks so much, i will let you know if works!
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January 26, 2018, 02:30:31 PM |
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sorry, i missed the last part of your last reply
i will try and do that on another computer with more space
thanks so much, i will let you know if works!
The idear of using a second computer is just to minimize the odds of a messup... The second computer doesn't have to have more space, you don't need to wait untill core is fully synce'd to dump the wallet, or a more recent version of bitcoin core can also be run in pruned mode so you'd only need about ~10Gb of diskspace. Just make sure you use a COPY of your wallet.dat, and make sure you keep an original copy of the wallet.dat in a safe place. Things might go wrong, but as long as you have an untouched copy of your wallet.dat, all problems should be fixable. EDIT: rather important sidenode: AFTER you've moved your funds to a clean wallet, hold on to those private keys, they can be used to import into a bitcoin cash wallet, a bitcoin gold wallet, dig for clams,... An address funded with +1BTC before the blockheigts on which these altcoins forked is holding hundreds of USD (in fiat value) worth of altcoins on alternative blockchains!
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January 26, 2018, 02:39:46 PM |
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TRUE 2018-01-13T12:09:06 Sent to 1LccZXvhsMPHbKYMk2kGXxLYdo4piJNWGM -0.0105 75312e248dba6e72b25d35e2df618aca5cbc43b72680922cd6c7264ac9cb4bdf-000 ~ as you can see from the transaction history nothing much has come or gone since 2013
This address had transactions 2 days ago (in and out!). How did that happen if your wallet isn't synchronized? Did you import this address' private key into Electrum already?
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January 26, 2018, 02:45:50 PM |
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sorry, i missed the last part of your last reply
i will try and do that on another computer with more space
thanks so much, i will let you know if works!
The idear of using a second computer is just to minimize the odds of a messup... The second computer doesn't have to have more space, you don't need to wait untill core is fully synce'd to dump the wallet, or a more recent version of bitcoin core can also be run in pruned mode so you'd only need about ~10Gb of diskspace. Just make sure you use a COPY of your wallet.dat, and make sure you keep an original copy of the wallet.dat in a safe place. Things might go wrong, but as long as you have an untouched copy of your wallet.dat, all problems should be fixable. EDIT: rather important sidenode: AFTER you've moved your funds to a clean wallet, hold on to those private keys, they can be used to import into a bitcoin cash wallet, a bitcoin gold wallet, dig for clams,... An address funded with +1BTC before the blockheigts on which these altcoins forked is holding hundreds of USD (in fiat value) worth of altcoins on alternative blockchains!thanks, i will make sure to do that i bet i will struggle with it all though! thanks again
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January 26, 2018, 02:55:28 PM |
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TRUE 2018-01-13T12:09:06 Sent to 1LccZXvhsMPHbKYMk2kGXxLYdo4piJNWGM -0.0105 75312e248dba6e72b25d35e2df618aca5cbc43b72680922cd6c7264ac9cb4bdf-000 ~ as you can see from the transaction history nothing much has come or gone since 2013
This address had transactions 2 days ago (in and out!). How did that happen if your wallet isn't synchronized? Did you import this address' private key into Electrum already? i dont know how that has happened, i sent them as tests over a week ago and they dropped into my coinbase account 2 days ago, i did not import the private keys i am completely baffled!
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January 26, 2018, 04:14:58 PM |
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back for some more questions i am afraid
i have located the file on my PC
C:\Users\james\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin
i have installed bitcoin core and it is running on my mac but no bitcoin folder has been created here:
~/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin
I have tried the same thing on another PC in the house and the same issue exists - no bitcoin folder in which to find and swap the wallet.dat file
i dont have to wait for it to sync for it to create this folder do i?
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January 26, 2018, 04:19:17 PM |
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back for some more questions i am afraid
i have located the file on my PC
C:\Users\james\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin
i have installed bitcoin core and it is running on my mac but no bitcoin folder has been created here:
~/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin
I have tried the same thing on another PC in the house and the same issue exists - no bitcoin folder in which to find and swap the wallet.dat file
i dont have to wait for it to sync for it to create this folder do i?
cheers
The data directory seems to be correct https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Data_directoryYou can always manually create it if it doesn't exist, or you can start bitcoin-qt with the command line paramater -datadir=<a completely different datadir containing your wallet.dat>
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January 26, 2018, 04:21:25 PM |
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back for some more questions i am afraid
i have located the file on my PC
C:\Users\james\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin
i have installed bitcoin core and it is running on my mac but no bitcoin folder has been created here:
~/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin
I have tried the same thing on another PC in the house and the same issue exists - no bitcoin folder in which to find and swap the wallet.dat file
i dont have to wait for it to sync for it to create this folder do i?
cheers
You do have to run the wallet for the data directory to be created, if you haven't ran it before. I would really recommend you to just prune the Blockchain on your PC instead of moving it around, a lot less hassle. Can you create a file (not text file) and name it bitcoin.conf. Put the following inside of it: The next time you start Bitcoin Core, the blocks will be pruned and the total size of the block files will not exceed 550mb.
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January 26, 2018, 04:25:38 PM |
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back for some more questions i am afraid
i have located the file on my PC
C:\Users\james\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin
i have installed bitcoin core and it is running on my mac but no bitcoin folder has been created here:
~/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin
I have tried the same thing on another PC in the house and the same issue exists - no bitcoin folder in which to find and swap the wallet.dat file
i dont have to wait for it to sync for it to create this folder do i?
cheers
The data directory seems to be correct https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Data_directoryYou can always manually create it if it doesn't exist, or you can start bitcoin-qt with the command line paramater -datadir=<a completely different datadir containing your wallet.dat> sorry, what i am saying is that no Bitcoin directory has been created at all on my MAC it should be here - ~/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin but there is no /bitcoin folder
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January 26, 2018, 04:27:50 PM |
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back for some more questions i am afraid
i have located the file on my PC
C:\Users\james\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin
i have installed bitcoin core and it is running on my mac but no bitcoin folder has been created here:
~/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin
I have tried the same thing on another PC in the house and the same issue exists - no bitcoin folder in which to find and swap the wallet.dat file
i dont have to wait for it to sync for it to create this folder do i?
cheers
The data directory seems to be correct https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Data_directoryYou can always manually create it if it doesn't exist, or you can start bitcoin-qt with the command line paramater -datadir=<a completely different datadir containing your wallet.dat> sorry, what i am saying is that no Bitcoin directory has been created at all on my MAC it should be here - ~/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin but there is no /bitcoin folder Like i said: you can always manually create one and put the copy of your wallet.dat in it, or you can put the wallet.dat in any other folder on your machine, and use the -datadir startup parameter.
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January 26, 2018, 04:37:08 PM |
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back for some more questions i am afraid
i have located the file on my PC
C:\Users\james\AppData\Roaming\Bitcoin
i have installed bitcoin core and it is running on my mac but no bitcoin folder has been created here:
~/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin
I have tried the same thing on another PC in the house and the same issue exists - no bitcoin folder in which to find and swap the wallet.dat file
i dont have to wait for it to sync for it to create this folder do i?
cheers
The data directory seems to be correct https://en.bitcoin.it/wiki/Data_directoryYou can always manually create it if it doesn't exist, or you can start bitcoin-qt with the command line paramater -datadir=<a completely different datadir containing your wallet.dat> sorry, what i am saying is that no Bitcoin directory has been created at all on my MAC it should be here - ~/Library/Application Support/Bitcoin but there is no /bitcoin folder Like i said: you can always manually create one and put the copy of your wallet.dat in it, or you can put the wallet.dat in any other folder on your machine, and use the -datadir startup parameter. sorry, i see what you have said now, its all way above my level of understanding so i am struggling to understand much! i will have a look at that
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January 26, 2018, 04:43:11 PM |
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OMG i think i have done it!!
thanks mocacinno this worked:
If you don't want to do this, you should export the private key belonging to the change address of the last transaction that was confirmed...
I looked at the transaction, found the 'change address', dumped the private key for that and then went to electrum and did a sweep and its now showing as an unconfirmed transaction
the other address i swept earlier how now confirmed so hopefully this one will do the same
can i buy you a beer seeing as its friday night?
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January 26, 2018, 04:48:41 PM |
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OMG i think i have done it!!
thanks mocacinno this worked:
If you don't want to do this, you should export the private key belonging to the change address of the last transaction that was confirmed...
I looked at the transaction, found the 'change address', dumped the private key for that and then went to electrum and did a sweep and its now showing as an unconfirmed transaction
the other address i swept earlier how now confirmed so hopefully this one will do the same
can i buy you a beer seeing as its friday night?
I'm glad it worked, a tip isn't really necessary. That being said: i'm certainly happy when i receive a small tip. My tipping address is in my profile, it's the same address for bitcoin and bitcoin cash (since you found the private key for your bitcoin address, and you swept the unspent outputs, you can safely import the private key in the electrum wallet for bitcoin cash and spend those BCH to ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ... Well, wait untill the sweeping transaction is confirmed just to be sure.
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January 26, 2018, 04:53:02 PM |
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OMG i think i have done it!!
thanks mocacinno this worked:
If you don't want to do this, you should export the private key belonging to the change address of the last transaction that was confirmed...
I looked at the transaction, found the 'change address', dumped the private key for that and then went to electrum and did a sweep and its now showing as an unconfirmed transaction
the other address i swept earlier how now confirmed so hopefully this one will do the same
can i buy you a beer seeing as its friday night?
I'm glad it worked, a tip isn't really necessary. That being said: i'm certainly happy when i receive a small tip. My tipping address is in my profile, it's the same address for bitcoin and bitcoin cash (since you found the private key for your bitcoin address, and you swept the unspent outputs, you can safely import the private key in the electrum wallet for bitcoin cash and spend those BCH to ![Wink](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/wink.gif) ... Well, wait untill the sweeping transaction is confirmed just to be sure. cool, i will send a little bitcoin cash to the address in your profile then is it safe to install the electrum cash wallet on the same machine? i have read you should empty your electrum wallet and do it on another machine. maybe thats over cautious?
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