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wow this is a really helpful explanation for the investors, thanks for that, I think this thread deserves an additional merit because this is really very helpful, but for a good ICO I judge the current project is daneel.io, ICO will started in january 29, I think daneel is a good project, what do you think? if you think this is good, i suggest you also join in it www.danee.ioHello friend. I also chose this project from the countless other bounty. When the selection was guided by the advice of Ranyar, which he published in this thread. It is a kind of test for me. If the project is profitable I need a minimum of the next 10 smerican'm going to put to the author. Anyone interested, click on signature. By the way, Ranyar you have not seen this project before? Do you think he deserves the attention? Asanimals bounty only a few months. Your advice would be invaluable. As for your choice of daneel.io as a bounty. I have some doubts about the reorganization of the bounty campaign right in the middle of the bounty, but overall the project seems interesting. There is a certain hype around the project, in the bounty there are quite a few participants. The project has competitors but there are not so many yet and daneel.io has some chances to take its share in the market. Thank you for your point of view. Daneel attracted me with good conditions of participation and the popularity of the product produced by them.
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wow this is a really helpful explanation for the investors, thanks for that, I think this thread deserves an additional merit because this is really very helpful, but for a good ICO I judge the current project is daneel.io, ICO will started in january 29, I think daneel is a good project, what do you think? if you think this is good, i suggest you also join in it www.danee.ioHello friend. I also chose this project from the countless other bounty. When the selection was guided by the advice of Ranyar, which he published in this thread. It is a kind of test for me. If the project is profitable I need a minimum of the next 10 smerican'm going to put to the author. Anyone interested, click on signature. By the way, Ranyar you have not seen this project before? Do you think he deserves the attention? Asanimals bounty only a few months. Your advice would be invaluable. As for your choice of daneel.io as a bounty. I have some doubts about the reorganization of the bounty campaign right in the middle of the bounty, but overall the project seems interesting. There is a certain hype around the project, in the bounty there are quite a few participants. The project has competitors but there are not so many yet and daneel.io has some chances to take its share in the market. Thank you for your point of view. Daneel attracted me with good conditions of participation and the popularity of the product produced by them. We will be able to see their product only in the future. Now I would not make hasty conclusions but the project looks promising. But back to the topic of the conversation - do you have any advice that I could add to my checklist?
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February 02, 2018, 11:14:18 AM |
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Great checklist, I just sent u some merit! btw u should publish it also on Medium or similar so its more easy to share and also save as article for later reference!
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There are many ways by which you can invest in ICO safely. - Do all the research work you can for the ICO you are interested in. Location, Place, Plans, Team, everything.
- Watch if the developers are keeping their agenda in front of the public and properly explaining every point. And if you sense they are taking too long to answer you, it?s time to hold back and see that you are not scammed.
- It is always recommended to read the whitepaper carefully and if you find any fault, directly ask them because it?s your money and its safety matters.
- A proper legal framework should be maintained between the developer and contributors including terms and conditions of the ICO.
- Lastly, explore other ICO?s as well and try to compare it. You will get the answers yourself.
Research works always help, if you want to be safe then its your duty to look everything that may give you a reason to invest safely.
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Great checklist, I just sent u some merit! btw u should publish it also on Medium or similar so its more easy to share and also save as article for later reference!
Thank you very much friend! As for the article on the Medium, I think I'll do it when I prepare the second edition of my check-list, taking into account all the advice that the discussion participants shared here. There are many ways by which you can invest in ICO safely. - Do all the research work you can for the ICO you are interested in. Location, Place, Plans, Team, everything.
- Watch if the developers are keeping their agenda in front of the public and properly explaining every point. And if you sense they are taking too long to answer you, it?s time to hold back and see that you are not scammed.
- It is always recommended to read the whitepaper carefully and if you find any fault, directly ask them because it?s your money and its safety matters.
- A proper legal framework should be maintained between the developer and contributors including terms and conditions of the ICO.
- Lastly, explore other ICO?s as well and try to compare it. You will get the answers yourself.
Research works always help, if you want to be safe then its your duty to look everything that may give you a reason to invest safely. Thank you, these are valuable and important observations. Continue in the same vein and soon you will surely reach a higher rank on the forum.
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with the supports as investor comes with the good entrance as managing works of investment with the crypto finance, the use helps as reducing less on risks and goes as collecting returns as completing target with the terms as following with the further stages of level of compliance.
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Greetings, friends! I spent 14 hours to writing and translating this article, and it covers all of my experience, starting in 2013 year. Please forgive me for my bad English. I hope that this article will be useful for each of you, friends.
Today I decided to collect all my experience related to crypto-investment in one article. There is a lot of information and it is very voluminous, but I will try to present it more abstractly and briefly. So, the security of crypto investment can be divided into two sections: technical and analytical. Do not neglect any of them. Perhaps for some of you these recommendations will seem obvious, but for sure everyone will find something useful for themselves, especially beginners.
Technical factors - storage and trading - where and how is the best?
📌Wallets. It is reasonable to store crypto-currencies on desktop and hardware wallets (something like Ledger). Sometimes it is not very convenient, but then nobody can "freeze" your savings and they will be controlled only by you. It is not necessary to store crypto-currencies in wallets with centralized control of funds. It is better to use the generally recognized opensource-wallets, which have already earned the trust of the community;
📌Backup. Never forget about backing up your wallet, for example wallet.dat files, pin codes and private keys! Perhaps, it's worth duplicating the backup copy in the cloud storage - but only in an encrypted form;
📌Operating system. To store crypto currency on desktop wallets, it is more reasonable and safer to use Linux operating systems, Ubuntu for example;
📌Passwords. Use complex passwords consisting of at least 8 characters (more characters are preferred), including numbers and letters of different registers. You can come up with a mnemonic rule to not forget such a complicated password. Additional security measures - using the on-screen keyboard to enter a password, as well as two-factor authentication;
📌Exchanges. When trading with crypto currency, try not to store large sums there, and transfer exactly the same amount of funds as you need to conduct a particular transaction, can with a small margin in case of a sharp change in the exchange rate. Why? Because many exchanges are unavailable at the most inopportune moment, and many are completely rapidly closed, while others are periodically the target of hacker attacks. Try not to use the services of centralized illegal exchanges without extreme necessity, especially those that have already proved themselves from the bad side (they were "hacked" or closed for a long period). It is better to use decentralized crypto-exchange exchanges, such as Bitshares and Etherdelta.
very useful information you have shared i just hope that more users post stuff like this so everyone can have the right knowledge
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Greetings, friends! I spent 14 hours to writing and translating this article, and it covers all of my experience, starting in 2013 year. Please forgive me for my bad English. I hope that this article will be useful for each of you, friends.
Today I decided to collect all my experience related to crypto-investment in one article. There is a lot of information and it is very voluminous, but I will try to present it more abstractly and briefly. So, the security of crypto investment can be divided into two sections: technical and analytical. Do not neglect any of them. Perhaps for some of you these recommendations will seem obvious, but for sure everyone will find something useful for themselves, especially beginners.
Technical factors - storage and trading - where and how is the best?
📌Wallets. It is reasonable to store crypto-currencies on desktop and hardware wallets (something like Ledger). Sometimes it is not very convenient, but then nobody can "freeze" your savings and they will be controlled only by you. It is not necessary to store crypto-currencies in wallets with centralized control of funds. It is better to use the generally recognized opensource-wallets, which have already earned the trust of the community;
📌Backup. Never forget about backing up your wallet, for example wallet.dat files, pin codes and private keys! Perhaps, it's worth duplicating the backup copy in the cloud storage - but only in an encrypted form;
📌Operating system. To store crypto currency on desktop wallets, it is more reasonable and safer to use Linux operating systems, Ubuntu for example;
📌Passwords. Use complex passwords consisting of at least 8 characters (more characters are preferred), including numbers and letters of different registers. You can come up with a mnemonic rule to not forget such a complicated password. Additional security measures - using the on-screen keyboard to enter a password, as well as two-factor authentication;
📌Exchanges. When trading with crypto currency, try not to store large sums there, and transfer exactly the same amount of funds as you need to conduct a particular transaction, can with a small margin in case of a sharp change in the exchange rate. Why? Because many exchanges are unavailable at the most inopportune moment, and many are completely rapidly closed, while others are periodically the target of hacker attacks. Try not to use the services of centralized illegal exchanges without extreme necessity, especially those that have already proved themselves from the bad side (they were "hacked" or closed for a long period). It is better to use decentralized crypto-exchange exchanges, such as Bitshares and Etherdelta.
very useful information you have shared i just hope that more users post stuff like this so everyone can have the right knowledge
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Thanks, this would be a very beneficiary article for all the beginners!
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Thank you for the information you provided Period of increase and decrease of cash flow. You should not be so worried about this
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Thanks, this would be a very beneficiary article for all the beginners!
I'm glad to hear that my article for someone is useful, especially for beginners. If you tell this article to other novice friends, it will help them save money in the future. You can help one more way - please, tell me about what you would be interested in reading in my next articles?
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February 04, 2018, 05:47:13 PM |
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One more thing you might add to the first post: beware of phishing links. It is the no. 1 way in which people lose funds. Chances you lose your money through phishing are far larger than losing it to an exchange that goes bust or a wallet that goes corrupt.
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February 05, 2018, 07:33:29 AM |
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OP, well done! Hugely useful article You had completed. In additional to site evaluation section - might be useful to check pics, using on web page. If it are easy to detect in other sources - You have to beware of this project. One more thing you might add to the first post: beware of phishing links. It is the no. 1 way in which people lose funds. Chances you lose your money through phishing are far larger than losing it to an exchange that goes bust or a wallet that goes corrupt.
Strongly agree, in my opinion - this is first thing You have to check! Always.
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Analytical factors - how to find a good project for investment?
Before investing in the next ICO, look at this list and ask yourself the following questions:
📌Does the ICO site use the https protocol? If the team did not bother to install the SSL certificate, then what security for the project as a whole can there be?
📌How does the site look? What is the overall impression? Is it credible? Do not it look like it's made "on your knee"? Are the contact details given in full?
📌Is there a whitepaper on the site and how detailed is it? Today it is difficult to imagine, but there are sites without this element, which has already become a standard in the ICO industry. Is there a whitepaper in several of the most popular languages? If the team wants to collect the announced amount of investment, then it should count on users from different countries. What does the whitepaper look like? Is there enough information about the project and the rationale for entering the ICO, thereby ensuring future profit for investors? Is detailed business plan of the project and necessary technical details described? Less buzzwords, more digits.
📌How much money does the team plan to collect and why? It is good, if the whitepaper indicates the planned expense items of funds raised. Pay attention to how much money the team wants to attract. Now, some projects call huge sums only from greed, and they do not really need funds in such quantity to realize their plans. It's some difficult to spend a few millions of dollars at once, and keeping them in one crypto currency is unsafe because of high volatility, so it's good if the team mentions in whitepaper some way of diversifying the funds raised for their greater safety.
📌What problem does the project solve? Will it be useful for millions of people from around the world, will it solve their problems? Does we implement the project in general? It should not be a "space elevator", but not a "another chat" - there should be a golden mean between the benefit and ambitiousness of the project. Sometimes it's good if the project is somehow connected with the real economy and offline business, but not always. Here the main criterion is the economic feasibility of the project and the certainty that it will be in demand. Also, it is worth paying attention to projects that expand the infrastructure and make BTC and ETH work better/faster. It's reasonable to avoid projects where the blockchain is not at all necessary and "pulled by the ears" - it is very likely that in such cases the team often simply wants to raise money.
📌Does the project have competitors? Now there are very few truly revolutionary ideas, and most ICO projects are only skilful integration of existing products with a blockchain-ecosystem. It is good, if the project has at least 2-3 competitors or projects from the related field, and this is either successful projects, or those that are also at the stage of raising funds, or at least prototypes in the form of a classic business. Why is it important? Because if there are no competitors at all, then, most likely, there is no market, and such a product is not needed by anybody and is economically unprofitable. Either this is a brilliant new idea, but such a chance is much less likely.
📌Are bonuses for early investors on pre-ICO is not too high? In some ICO projects, teams offer huge bonuses to attract early investors. If you managed to get into their number - you are lucky. If you do not have time and the ICO bonus differs significantly from the presale bonus - it's better not to invest in this project, but you can buy tokens on the stock exchange. Why? It often happens that early investors sell tokens immediately after entering the exchanges and receive instant profit at the expense of big discounts with which they bought tokens, and the rate falls 2-3 times from the price of ICO.
📌Is the maximum amount of funds (Hard Cap) limited? If not, then this is an alarm signal. If the project collects too much money (as much as it does not need to achieve the stated business goals), then it simply has nowhere to grow. Capitalization of the project can easily grow from $ 10 million to $ 100 millions in next time, but from $ 100 millions to $ 1 billion - it is much more difficult. Such projects sometimes become financially sluggish, and the team is losing motivation - why go on working hard and develop the project if you have already collected more money than you can spend? Also, pay attention to the total number of tokens - it should not be too large.
📌Is the initial price of tokens is not too high? And what is it generally justified? The smaller the initial price of tokens, the higher the "psychological" growth potential. Agree that it is much easier to grow a token from 10 cents to 1 dollar (x10 growth) than, for example, from 10 dollars to 100 (the same x10 growth);
📌Will the project team gradually buy tokens from exchanges? A good practice is if, after the completion of the ICO, the company plans to gradually buy out its issued tokens back from the exchanges, using part of the profit for each specific period of time. Due to this, the rate of the token can grow.
📌How will the tokens be used in project? What are they for and do they really need in reality? It is good, if the token is really necessary for the project's work, and it contains a certain scheme of its value growth. If the token is used only to attract investment, then the team should have a clear plan of how exactly it will bring profit to investors. A common option is to charge "dividends" for tokens once in a certain period. Thus, the company will share part of the profit with the holders of the tokens and will be attractive to investments. Sometimes for many early investors this is a good way to get some passive income if the project is successful in the future.
📌Does the project team looks trust? Ideally, these people should be experts in their field, who already have the experience of successful implementation of IT-projects. Equally important is the balance in the team between the number of technical specialists and managers/marketers. If there are only "sellers" in the team, then they can give the development to outsourcing and this is not always good. If the team is one of the developers, then there may be problems with sales and promotion of the ICO project and with the attraction of investments.
📌How open is the project to the community? Look, is there a source code for a smart contract for github? Is there any statistics on the volume of attracted investments in real time and what information about this is on ehterscan? The larger the number of investors - the more likely the tokens will be distributed evenly and the less volatile will be the token rate after entering the crypto-exchanges.
📌Has the project been financially and technically audited? Some teams are attracted by independent audit agencies, as well as information security specialists (or announces an additional bounty campaign to search for bugs and vulnerabilities) to increase the credibility of their projects by potential investors. After this, the team can publish short results of such studies on the site of its ICO project and in whitepaper.
📌Does the team have a working prototype of the project? The short history of ICO contains many examples where talented teams attracted investment only for the landing-page and mocups of the future project, but the scam among such projects is usually even greater. If the team has at least a minimum workable product (MVP) - then this is already a good sign to think about investing in the project. If the team already has a successful IT-project, and they just want to integrate it with the blockchain ecosystem and raise additional funds to expand the business and enter new markets, then this is also a good sign.
📌Does the project have advisors? If not - then this is an alarming sign. If there is, it's already good, but it's worth looking closely - what kind of people are they? It's great if they are recognized leaders of the blockchain industry, but far from all projects can boast the support of such people. For small projects, there will be enough support from good recognized experts with a large profile background.
📌Are venture funds interested in the project? If there is an official information about investments from some well-known venture investors or "business angels", this means that this ICO project has certainly undergone a thorough audit by people who are willing to invest in the project really big money and believe in its successful future.
📌Does the project have a detailed roadmap? Look at the whitepaper, at what stages is the implementation of the project broken, do the timelines look realistic? What exactly and for how long is the team going to implement and how soon will MVP be ready (if already not)? Remember that the faster the team realizes its business plan, the faster the project will start to make a profit and the sooner tokens will start to grow in price.
📌Milestone and the team's step-by-step reward. Some teams lose motivation to work hard after successful fundraising, so a good tone is considered if the additional token remuneration of the team is broken into several specific stages related to the previous point - the road map. Very cool, if the holders of tokens can somehow vote for whether the next stage is implemented or not. An alternative option is to keep borrowed funds from an independent organization (escrow), which partially gives funds to the team after each milestone implementation. In this case, the team receives its tokens only after the successful completion of the next stage of project development. The more intermediate stages, the better, because the team will not be able to immediately sell a large number of its tokens on the exchange, negatively affecting the price of the tokens.
📌What is the news background for the project? How often does the team upload news and articles about its project in social networks and on profile news portals? How do these news react to recognized crypto-investors and blockchain specialists? Are there extensive reviews on this ICO project on the well-known crypto-news portals? What about it is written by independent rating agencies and ICO calendars? Is there a real, rather than twisted, hype around the project?
Nice post op, this very helpful for beginners who wants to try on investing in ico, this topic is need to put on pinned message so that everyone can easily read this topic, because this is very important information since many of us specially on newbies that don't have enough knowledge on how to look a good ICO's.
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Greetings, friends! I spent 14 hours to writing and translating this article, and it covers all of my experience, starting in 2013 year. Please forgive me for my bad English. I hope that this article will be useful for each of you, friends.
Today I decided to collect all my experience related to crypto-investment in one article. There is a lot of information and it is very voluminous, but I will try to present it more abstractly and briefly. So, the security of crypto investment can be divided into two sections: technical and analytical. Do not neglect any of them. Perhaps for some of you these recommendations will seem obvious, but for sure everyone will find something useful for themselves, especially beginners.
Technical factors - storage and trading - where and how is the best?
📌Wallets. It is reasonable to store crypto-currencies on desktop and hardware wallets (something like Ledger). Sometimes it is not very convenient, but then nobody can "freeze" your savings and they will be controlled only by you. It is not necessary to store crypto-currencies in wallets with centralized control of funds. It is better to use the generally recognized opensource-wallets, which have already earned the trust of the community;
📌Backup. Never forget about backing up your wallet, for example wallet.dat files, pin codes and private keys! Perhaps, it's worth duplicating the backup copy in the cloud storage - but only in an encrypted form;
📌Operating system. To store crypto currency on desktop wallets, it is more reasonable and safer to use Linux operating systems, Ubuntu for example;
📌Passwords. Use complex passwords consisting of at least 8 characters (more characters are preferred), including numbers and letters of different registers. You can come up with a mnemonic rule to not forget such a complicated password. Additional security measures - using the on-screen keyboard to enter a password, as well as two-factor authentication;
📌Exchanges. When trading with crypto currency, try not to store large sums there, and transfer exactly the same amount of funds as you need to conduct a particular transaction, can with a small margin in case of a sharp change in the exchange rate. Why? Because many exchanges are unavailable at the most inopportune moment, and many are completely rapidly closed, while others are periodically the target of hacker attacks. Try not to use the services of centralized illegal exchanges without extreme necessity, especially those that have already proved themselves from the bad side (they were "hacked" or closed for a long period). It is better to use decentralized crypto-exchange exchanges, such as Bitshares and Etherdelta.
You should be checking the background of the ICO,founder's and developer's credibility from the past,are they capable ?second the product you should be check if the ICO has existing product to be beckuped,third the whitepaper and its roadmap these are the most basic things you should check before investing in ICOs just to be safe.
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I think there are various factors that you must check before investing in an ico that proves whether an ico is legit or not. The most important factor that you must always look for are the ICOs with a working product as these ICOs have higher chances to be legit. The other thing that you must consider is the idea of the project. Always look for project with unique idea as these icos have higher chances to grow in future.
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February 06, 2018, 08:42:41 AM |
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[...] The other thing that you must consider is the idea of the project. Always look for project with unique idea as these icos have higher chances to grow in future.
This was specified in second post of this topic: 📌Does the project have competitors? Now there are very few truly revolutionary ideas, and most ICO projects are only skilful integration of existing products with a blockchain-ecosystem. It is good, if the project has at least 2-3 competitors or projects from the related field, and this is either successful projects, or those that are also at the stage of raising funds, or at least prototypes in the form of a classic business. Why is it important? Because if there are no competitors at all, then, most likely, there is no market, and such a product is not needed by anybody and is economically unprofitable. Either this is a brilliant new idea, but such a chance is much less likely.
Still, You probably have huge experience - can You share some examples of such unique ideas? Of course, if You have some examples. Truly unique idea is a brilliant itself - every smart investor would like to support it!
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[...] The other thing that you must consider is the idea of the project. Always look for project with unique idea as these icos have higher chances to grow in future.
This was specified in second post of this topic: 📌Does the project have competitors? Now there are very few truly revolutionary ideas, and most ICO projects are only skilful integration of existing products with a blockchain-ecosystem. It is good, if the project has at least 2-3 competitors or projects from the related field, and this is either successful projects, or those that are also at the stage of raising funds, or at least prototypes in the form of a classic business. Why is it important? Because if there are no competitors at all, then, most likely, there is no market, and such a product is not needed by anybody and is economically unprofitable. Either this is a brilliant new idea, but such a chance is much less likely.
Still, You probably have huge experience - can You share some examples of such unique ideas? Of course, if You have some examples. Truly unique idea is a brilliant itself - every smart investor would like to support it! I think each case should be considered separately. If the project has a unique and interesting idea, need to think and analyse its relevance. This should give more x's success but grows and the risk of failure. Projects with competitors needs to be safer for investment.
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February 06, 2018, 04:42:04 PM |
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A very detailed analysis on how to invest on a good ICO. Thank you for this valuable information.
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I think there are various factors that you must check before investing in an ico that proves whether an ico is legit or not. The most important factor that you must always look for are the ICOs with a working product as these ICOs have higher chances to be legit. The other thing that you must consider is the idea of the project. Always look for project with unique idea as these icos have higher chances to grow in future.
What kind of product you mean bro? I see most of the project comes to market are only on the online platform and some smart contracts and etc. If you are worry to know how to find the best project. You should read the white paper shared by them. Then you will comes to know whether it is legit project or just a scam. One more idea, You can check their linked-in and other social media site accounts. You can understand it better.
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