Avalon chip order unboxing photos

[Big Time Coin]

Got it today, after it sat for 4 days at a DHL hub.

First U.S. order to be received AFAIK it was placed 4/17










So there's your proof that chip shipping is going on from Avalon.

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[Pt0x]

Now I can see a light in the end of the tunnel....

[PuertoLibre]

I have only one question:

Were the tissue papers at the top left of the second photo ultimately necessary to wipe away your tears?

[bystander]

Thanks for posting the pics, good to see they are shipping now.

It's amazing they shipped these chips out just on Aug 21 from Hong Kong, cleared Customs in Cincinnati on Aug 22, arrived the same day in {redacted}, and delivered today!

[oaxaca]

Date Code 1332.

I use YY followed by 3 digit day code followed by 1 digit batch.

Wouldn't work in this case.  "13" for 2013, 32 is ??

Does anybody here use a 4 digit fake date code scheme like this one?

[bystander]

Date Code 1332.

I use YY followed by 3 digit day code followed by 1 digit batch.

Wouldn't work in this case.  "13" for 2013, 32 is ??

Does anybody here use a 4 digit fake date code scheme like this one?

Sometimes they will use YYXX

13 for 2013
32 could be the work week number.   So Aug 13 if calculated from 1/1/2013.

[PuertoLibre]

Date Code 1332.

I use YY followed by 3 digit day code followed by 1 digit batch.

Wouldn't work in this case.  "13" for 2013, 32 is ??

Does anybody here use a 4 digit fake date code scheme like this one?

Sometimes they will use YYXX

13 for 2013
32 could be the work week number.   So Aug 13 if calculated from 1/1/2013.

Uh oh, the paint is stripping. Someone hide those numbers!

[Xialla]

Sometimes they will use YYXX

13 for 2013
32 could be the work week number.   So Aug 13 if calculated from 1/1/2013.

you are right sir.

Code:

Moreover, a date code of 1239 for the DRAM indicates that a portion of the chip was manufactured in late September 2012.

source: http://www.ibtimes.com/apple-iphone-6-rumors-device-may-feature-tsmcs-a8-chip-2014-leaked-iphone-5s-photos-suggest-a7

so yes. first two digits represent year of production, second two represent week in the year

[jimrome]

Date Code 1332.

I use YY followed by 3 digit day code followed by 1 digit batch.

Wouldn't work in this case.  "13" for 2013, 32 is ??

Does anybody here use a 4 digit fake date code scheme like this one?

Sometimes they will use YYXX

13 for 2013
32 could be the work week number.   So Aug 13 if calculated from 1/1/2013.

Assuming ISO8601 format, week 32 would translate to the week of August 5-11, or thereabouts depending on whether they start their week with Sunday or Monday..

[bystander]

^Thanks JimRome, that would make a lot of sense considering after that week there would be enough time for testing and packaging.

[fasmax]

Thanks for posting this.
What are you going to do with 10,000 chips?

[AsicShill]

Congrats Big Time Coin!

I wonder if this means the Avalon bulk chip shipping in earnest has finally started.

[ScaryHash]

One day to clear customs?

Really...what happened to all the customs problems?

[knightlife999]

So that seems to imply that orders placed in April were made just 3 weeks ago? What happened to the chips that were supposed to have been made 2 months ago? It's looking more and more like everyone's batches were sold to someone else back in July.

[chanberg]

its crazy to see what 90k is worth... small little box of black chiclets

[Rampion]

And here you have the unboxing pictures of the chips bought by a spanish member (order placed on April, 16th)



He received the chips on August 12th, so aprox. 2 weeks before the OP. His date code is 1330, so it seems consistent with "30" being the production date.

Here the original thread: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=158039.msg2918535#msg2918535

[PuertoLibre]

So that seems to imply that orders placed in April were made just 3 weeks ago? What happened to the chips that were supposed to have been made 2 months ago? It's looking more and more like everyone's batches were sold to someone else back in July.

It does appear to imply this.

[Rampion]

So that seems to imply that orders placed in April were made just 3 weeks ago? What happened to the chips that were supposed to have been made 2 months ago? It's looking more and more like everyone's batches were sold to someone else back in July.

It does appear to imply this.

Not necessarily. It could mean the foundry incurred in a huge delay. But obviously the lack of transparency and the mysterious "custom problems" nobody has seen in the wild are very fishy.

Honestly, I'm starting to get nervous about the batch #3 refunds.

[Big Time Coin]

Wow so I order one day later and my order is 2 weeks later delivered...

As far as "customs problems" go, they are definitely doing something shady with customs in that the invoice for the order claimed the value as $0.04 per chip, 10k chips $440 invoice.  It also prominently stated "sample chips only - no commercial value".  So those are misrepresentations right on the official invoice that the customs agents read.  It suits me well enough because that lowers the tax burden for all parties.

I'm having them assembled into clones by Bitmine.

[bystander]

These guys are experts in getting hundreds of thousands of chips sent abroad smoothly without incurring additional fees or tax burdens [for buyers].  So when Yifu claimed "stuck in customs" that wasn't going to fly at all.  

AsicMiner labels their block erupters shipments as "test - pcboards"  so it comes with little value.  The speed at which these can be shipped out of China w/o issues is quite amazing, about 3 days is consistent with my shipments.

edit: clarification

[Rampion]

These guys are experts in getting hundreds of thousands of chips sent abroad smoothly without incurring additional fees or tax burdens.  So when Yifu claimed "stuck in customs" that wasn't going to fly at all. 

AsicMiner labels their block erupters shipments as "test - pcboards"  so it comes with little value. 

Sorry, but the import/tax burdens are on the customer, so in this case the fact they heavily undervalue the goods on the invoice is a very good thing for the buyer, otherwise you would have to pay a shitload of money to customs (for Example, in Europe it would be at least 21% + fess)

[chanberg]

Wow so I order one day later and my order is 2 weeks later delivered...

As far as "customs problems" go, they are definitely doing something shady with customs in that the invoice for the order claimed the value as $0.04 per chip, 10k chips $440 invoice.  It also prominently stated "sample chips only - no commercial value".  So those are misrepresentations right on the official invoice that the customs agents read.  It suits me well enough because that lowers the tax burden for all parties.

I'm having them assembled into clones by Bitmine.

Definitely wouldn't be surprised if these suckers cost 0.04 cents to make!~

[peonminer]

Please post some pictures of the chips unwrapped so we can all DROOLLLLL

[Carlton Banks]

Wow so I order one day later and my order is 2 weeks later delivered...

As far as "customs problems" go, they are definitely doing something shady with customs in that the invoice for the order claimed the value as $0.04 per chip, 10k chips $440 invoice.  It also prominently stated "sample chips only - no commercial value".  So those are misrepresentations right on the official invoice that the customs agents read.  It suits me well enough because that lowers the tax burden for all parties.

I'm having them assembled into clones by Bitmine.

Sorry for the bluntness, I feel it's all too necessary: it never fails to amaze my how people are all to willing to write nothing less than a signed confession statement to tax crimes that form a part of a business venture that isn't even complete yet. Am I the only one thinking FFS STFU?

[PuertoLibre]

Wow so I order one day later and my order is 2 weeks later delivered...

As far as "customs problems" go, they are definitely doing something shady with customs in that the invoice for the order claimed the value as $0.04 per chip, 10k chips $440 invoice.  It also prominently stated "sample chips only - no commercial value".  So those are misrepresentations right on the official invoice that the customs agents read.  It suits me well enough because that lowers the tax burden for all parties.

I'm having them assembled into clones by Bitmine.

Sorry for the bluntness, I feel it's all too necessary: it never fails to amaze my how people are all to willing to write nothing less than a signed confession statement to tax crimes that form a part of a business venture that isn't even complete yet. Am I the only one thinking FFS STFU?

I realize this as well, people really don't think half a second about what they post.

[Rampion]

Wow so I order one day later and my order is 2 weeks later delivered...

As far as "customs problems" go, they are definitely doing something shady with customs in that the invoice for the order claimed the value as $0.04 per chip, 10k chips $440 invoice.  It also prominently stated "sample chips only - no commercial value".  So those are misrepresentations right on the official invoice that the customs agents read.  It suits me well enough because that lowers the tax burden for all parties.

I'm having them assembled into clones by Bitmine.

Sorry for the bluntness, I feel it's all too necessary: it never fails to amaze my how people are all to willing to write nothing less than a signed confession statement to tax crimes that form a part of a business venture that isn't even complete yet. Am I the only one thinking FFS STFU?

I realize this as well, people really don't think half a second about what they post.

Yep, that's amazing stuff indeed.

[bystander]

These guys are experts in getting hundreds of thousands of chips sent abroad smoothly without incurring additional fees or tax burdens [for buyers].  So when Yifu claimed "stuck in customs" that wasn't going to fly at all. 

AsicMiner labels their block erupters shipments as "test - pcboards"  so it comes with little value. 

Sorry, but the import/tax burdens are on the customer, so in this case the fact they heavily undervalue the goods on the invoice is a very good thing for the buyer, otherwise you would have to pay a shitload of money to customs (for Example, in Europe it would be at least 21% + fess)

Agree that it works out well favorably for the buyer, especially in Europe.  Should've clarified that in the beginning.

[SolarSilver]

These guys are experts in getting hundreds of thousands of chips sent abroad smoothly without incurring additional fees or tax burdens [for buyers].  So when Yifu claimed "stuck in customs" that wasn't going to fly at all. 

AsicMiner labels their block erupters shipments as "test - pcboards"  so it comes with little value. 

Sorry, but the import/tax burdens are on the customer, so in this case the fact they heavily undervalue the goods on the invoice is a very good thing for the buyer, otherwise you would have to pay a shitload of money to customs (for Example, in Europe it would be at least 21% + fess)

Agree that it works out well favorably for the buyer, especially in Europe.  Should've clarified that in the beginning.

Actually this is a major misconception, giving an item with a fake value declaration will only cause problems for the receiver, as most customs offices do check. This causes delays, fines and extra costs that could have been avoided.

With larger buyers being sometimes companies, it's causing various accounting problems too where the tax office finds out the declared value on the IM4 import docs is not in the same range as the booked expense invoice. Instant audit and fine as a result...

Stop trying to do your customers a favour by declaring a low value, you are screwing over the majority of them in the long run.

Guess what, as a company I don't care what the VAT is as I never pay any VAT. If you do any kind of import/export, you should get a Import VAT deferral license (E.T. 14.000 permit).

[Rampion]

These guys are experts in getting hundreds of thousands of chips sent abroad smoothly without incurring additional fees or tax burdens [for buyers].  So when Yifu claimed "stuck in customs" that wasn't going to fly at all. 

AsicMiner labels their block erupters shipments as "test - pcboards"  so it comes with little value. 

Sorry, but the import/tax burdens are on the customer, so in this case the fact they heavily undervalue the goods on the invoice is a very good thing for the buyer, otherwise you would have to pay a shitload of money to customs (for Example, in Europe it would be at least 21% + fess)

Agree that it works out well favorably for the buyer, especially in Europe.  Should've clarified that in the beginning.

Actually this is a major misconception, giving an item with a fake value declaration will only cause problems for the receiver, as most customs offices do check. This causes delays, fines and extra costs that could have been avoided.

With larger buyers being sometimes companies, it's causing various accounting problems too where the tax office finds out the declared value on the IM4 import docs is not in the same range as the booked expense invoice. Instant audit and fine as a result...

Stop trying to do your customers a favour by declaring a low value, you are screwing over the majority of them in the long run.

Guess what, as a company I don't care what the VAT is as I never pay any VAT. If you do any kind of import/export, you should get a Import VAT deferral license (E.T. 14.000 permit).

This is correct. If you are a business operating completely legally you will recoup the VAT and declare the different import duties as expenses, thus a fake value on the invoice will just badly mess with your accounting. But for all the consumers who are not a registered company or for "pro" operations managed in a "shady" way, an undervalued invoice will just mean less costs they were not going to recoup anyway.

[Bitcoinorama]

These guys are experts in getting hundreds of thousands of chips sent abroad smoothly without incurring additional fees or tax burdens [for buyers].  So when Yifu claimed "stuck in customs" that wasn't going to fly at all. 

AsicMiner labels their block erupters shipments as "test - pcboards"  so it comes with little value. 

Sorry, but the import/tax burdens are on the customer, so in this case the fact they heavily undervalue the goods on the invoice is a very good thing for the buyer, otherwise you would have to pay a shitload of money to customs (for Example, in Europe it would be at least 21% + fess)

Agree that it works out well favorably for the buyer, especially in Europe.  Should've clarified that in the beginning.

Actually this is a major misconception, giving an item with a fake value declaration will only cause problems for the receiver, as most customs offices do check. This causes delays, fines and extra costs that could have been avoided.

With larger buyers being sometimes companies, it's causing various accounting problems too where the tax office finds out the declared value on the IM4 import docs is not in the same range as the booked expense invoice. Instant audit and fine as a result...

Stop trying to do your customers a favour by declaring a low value, you are screwing over the majority of them in the long run.

Guess what, as a company I don't care what the VAT is as I never pay any VAT. If you do any kind of import/export, you should get a Import VAT deferral license (E.T. 14.000 permit).

Indeed, futhermore, and more importantly to you, if you are subject to your valuable package of chips being 'misplaced' (lost) by the courier company chosen, who will you be compensate, or refunded for such genuinely valuable items without sufficient third party liability when the package is inadquately insured?