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January 26, 2018, 10:08:07 AM
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I wamna know is merit good or bad?  Obviosly im a newbie here so i wanna know is it good or bad for me i hope i got some replies
How about you read the thread from the beginning and stop shitposting, SMH.

EDIT: or one of the dozens of other threads in the Meta section (...)
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January 26, 2018, 11:25:33 AM
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it is so boring if you just post and post and post to complete the necessary number of post to meet the activity needed to rank up, but now we have merit System, now we need to start adapting the changes, now we need to earn other's trust and attentions by making quality post, and good response to threads.... So it's a good news
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January 26, 2018, 12:09:10 PM
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you said you are a bounty hunters, under the circumstances of more difficult to achieve higher rank, you actually agree with the system.
what do you mean?Huh you need a higher rank but you agree to make it harder???really contradiction.
Why not? if this new system can reduce spammers or the like and certainly can reduce the work of the bounty manager, and finally I can get my payment in the right time, can you see now almost all bounty filled by spammers who chase the number of posts? and of course this becomes additional work by the bounty manager and the impact is the bounty hunter who honestly affected the impact (late payment).

And I also do not focus on my rank, because iam not just looking for a bounty in this forum. Once again sorry for my bad english and my bad explanation. Thanks
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January 26, 2018, 12:38:36 PM
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but what's the beginning point of making this forum? is it spread the knowledge of crypto currency? is it offer a place for everyone to say their opinion? But with this merit, I don't think low ranks can say their opinion freely because they have to think twice before post, if what they say is unfavor for "high class" members, then it is hard for them to get merits.

Wut? Nothing has changed regarding posting. Everyone can still say whatever they want, only now great posts have the option of being rewarded with merit points.

if what I said is true, then what's the point to join this forum?

People used to join this forum so they had a place to discuss bitcoin but that has become second-fiddle as it has been taken over by shitposters just trying to earn in the laziest way possible. This system is an attempt to curb that and the farming that is going on. Now if you want to earn you actually have to contribute something of substance. Too bad for you. 

if everyone can't say what they want to say in this forum then what's the point to make this forum?

I don't understand how this system stops people from saying what they want?

if new members think it is difficult to join this forum and hard to increase their rank, then I think it is bad for this forum to develop, because new blood is essential and I believe this forum is not just let higher rank members to show how much knowledge they have, but to spread the knowledge to new people and encourage new member to contribute more.

It's not difficult to join. It's easy. It's a little harder to rank up now but that's irrelevant to posting and is only an issue if you're wanting to earn money here.  If it was to just post and contribute you would just get on with it as nothing has changed there but you don't really care about actually contributing anything worthwhile and you're only complaining because this new system has now thrown a spanner in the works of you being able to easily earn here by shitposting. People will still sign up in droves to earn but that is now not as easy as just shitposting all the way to the bank.

I believe this merit system will make this forum become a WAR!

We're already at war. War against shitposters and this system is an attempt to clean that up.

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January 26, 2018, 12:55:55 PM
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You summed it up perfectly, hilariousetc. Most of the new accounts here are cancer, bringing absolutely nothing to the discussion and shitposting solely for the purpose of ranking up and taking part in bounty campaigns. I'm happy with the introduction of the merit system and I hope it will discourage spammers from posting shittons of low quality content littering this forum. Just look at the post history of some of the accounts who bitch the loudest about merit, the majority of them are exactly what this system aims to rid of. Only time will tell if successfully, but in my view this is a step in the right direction.
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January 26, 2018, 12:59:01 PM
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but I am wondering it is fair for ALL MEMBERS in here???
To people who seek to improve their knowledge and enjoy participating in exchange of opinion this merit system will be no problem whatsoever. Because in time they will gather enough points for rank up. Of course this will not be possible for those who post just for sake of post count.

as I know, different ranks hold different merits, and most importantly, who has higher ranks can have more merits to give away. which means, higher ranks have more power than low ranks.
Yes, on start higher ranks will have more sMerit. But who can better evaluate quality of posts if not them? Also that is only on start, because there is limited number of sMerit, even for high ranks. In time those sMerit will be passed down to other ranks, low and high.

generally speaking, as a newbie, he can't give a constructive post as other people who has higher ranks. what he can do is do his best to join the discussion as many as possible . but with this merit, this sense of "hierarchy” is going further!!! now everyone should kind of "please" the higher ranks member, because higher ranks hold more merits to give away!! which means they have more power in this forum. that's why I said is "hierarchy"
Rank has nothing to do with quality of post. When someone joins this forum, first step would be to get to know some basic things. After that what they NEED to do, is to READ as much as possible, and gather as much knowledge as possible. So when the time comes for them to join "as much discussion as possible" they will be able to make high quality posts. No one should please no one, but people need to think what they are posting.

but what's the beginning point of making this forum? is it spread the knowledge of crypto currency? is it offer a place for everyone to say their opinion? But with this merit, I don't think low ranks can say their opinion freely because they have to think twice before post, if what they say is unfavor for "high class" members, then it is hard for them to get merits.
The point of this forum is spreading knowledge of crypto currency and other things. And yes people can freely say their opinion, and they SHOULD think twice before posting something. Because that way they can be sure they made good post. And good posts have nothing to do with high ranks, because post is your own doing.

Not everything is in rank of profile. This forum is great source of all kind of knowledge, for those who seek it. We can say what we think and share our opinion freely, but that doesn't mean we should shitpost. We should follow regulations of this forum, and give our best in helping other people by making quality posts.

I think this Merit system is good for forum, in time it will insure more good quality posts. Those who seek to improve themselves and their posts will have no problem.



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January 26, 2018, 01:04:25 PM
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Only thing that Merit is bringing now is Merit sell on local board and other forums. No more. And i don't see any action of Mod about this thread in local board.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2819627.0

he edited his post
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January 26, 2018, 01:05:19 PM
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Most of the new accounts here are cancer, bringing absolutely nothing to the discussion and shitposting solely for the purpose of ranking up and taking part in bounty campaigns.

Yep. First thing I do when I see these users whinging is check their post history. Usually all trash farmed in ICO threads and other half-assed one liners of nothingness. The ones that are kicking up the must fuss vocally are likely the users who have multiple accounts because they know it's going to be very difficult to even get the merit points on one account alone never mind several. Long gone will be the days where you could sign up with as many accounts as you like just to easily bleed campaigns dry. Now you actually have to contribute something useful and to a perpetual one line shitposter this is going to be a lot of work indeed.

Only thing that Merit is bringing now is Merit sell on local board and other forums. No more. And i don't see any action of Mod about this thread in local board.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2819627.0

he edited his post

He's been left negative trust by a mod.

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January 26, 2018, 01:14:44 PM
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Only thing that Merit is bringing now is Merit sell on local board and other forums. No more. And i don't see any action of Mod about this thread in local board.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2819627.0

he edited his post
If you know what they are saying, than report that to Admins and deliver evidence. They will look into it and decide what to do. Moderators and not all seeing, from time to time they need our help.

As far as i know it is against the rules to sell or abuse Merit. I guess there should be hard punishments for those who abuse Merit system, so that people should think twice before they do something like that. It is not the system that is bad, its the people who try to abuse it.
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January 26, 2018, 01:17:02 PM
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Merit / trust / Medals is fine if people think they have a chance to get it. Then they will fight for it.
If they find out it is impossible to get it can backfire and give opposite effect.

Trust - if you get 1 bad trust from Default trust member you loose interest. In particular if unfair.
Merit - standard users have standard problems etc. No one give them merit. They loose interest.
Medals - we give them to our soldiers so they feel proud. When I see it I always think. How many people did he kill to get them.

Do I think merit is good. Yes / No. I don't care  Grin

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January 26, 2018, 01:35:16 PM
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i dont think Merit can make increase quality of post in this forum because many people can gather into groups where they will send merit to each other.
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January 26, 2018, 01:35:58 PM
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Only thing that Merit is bringing now is Merit sell on local board and other forums. No more. And i don't see any action of Mod about this thread in local board.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2819627.0

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If you know what they are saying, than report that to Admins and deliver evidence. They will look into it and decide what to do. Moderators and not all seeing, from time to time they need our help.

As far as i know it is against the rules to sell or abuse Merit. I guess there should be hard punishments for those who abuse Merit system, so that people should think twice before they do something like that. It is not the system that is bad, its the people who try to abuse it.
Sure that i will report to Mod if i see. but if, too much threads and my time is not for looking for this and report
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January 26, 2018, 01:36:56 PM
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i dont think Merit can make increase quality of post in this forum because many people can gather into groups where they will send merit to each other.

see - total shitpost...

why did you make me read this? why am I making the effort to reply??

you need to think about what you post... make less posts and then you will end up with merits

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January 26, 2018, 01:41:50 PM
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i dont think Merit can make increase quality of post in this forum because many people can gather into groups where they will send merit to each other.

see - total shitpost...

why did you make me read this? why am I making the effort to reply??

you need to think about what you post... make less posts and then you will end up with merits
I know that quality posts is which has contribution for BCT community. But some just want talk here with others, as a way to entertain  so It's not mean that all posts must have quality
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January 26, 2018, 01:43:00 PM
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i dont think Merit can make increase quality of post in this forum because many people can gather into groups where they will send merit to each other.

see - total shitpost...

why did you make me read this? why am I making the effort to reply??

you need to think about what you post... make less posts and then you will end up with merits

When you learn something new you start at the beginning. For a skilled person the beginning look like shit. But no one start as an expert.

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January 26, 2018, 01:43:35 PM
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i dont think Merit can make increase quality of post in this forum because many people can gather into groups where they will send merit to each other.

If you look at the system, it is designed in a way that eventually, the merits will be i hand of deserving hands. For instance, as members spend all their existing Smerits we will rely only on merit sources. Those merit sources will reward members with useful posts (serious people). So it will get only better with time.
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January 26, 2018, 01:43:38 PM
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i dont think Merit can make increase quality of post in this forum because many people can gather into groups where they will send merit to each other.

see - total shitpost...

why did you make me read this? why am I making the effort to reply??

you need to think about what you post... make less posts and then you will end up with merits
I know that quality posts is which has contribution for BCT community. But some just want talk here with others, as a way to entertain  so It's not mean that all posts must have quality

but whats the point? go have a wank - go for a walk outside.. do something more fulfilling than posting boring shitposts.

you are wasting valuable internet space.. at this rate we will run out

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January 26, 2018, 01:44:52 PM
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I'm not that old here as well and I see that the merit system that was newly implemented can be good and bad at the same time. It's good that its aim is to stop troll posts, but at the same time could be used for abuse by high ranking members here... just saying..
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January 26, 2018, 01:52:07 PM
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I'm not that old here as well and I see that the merit system that was newly implemented can be good and bad at the same time. It's good that its aim is to stop troll posts, but at the same time could be used for abuse by high ranking members here... just saying..

do you feel abused?? I just gave you a merit.. now go out and earn some more.. do not question the new system embrace it...

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January 26, 2018, 01:59:25 PM
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i dont think Merit can make increase quality of post in this forum because many people can gather into groups where they will send merit to each other.

see - total shitpost...

why did you make me read this? why am I making the effort to reply??

you need to think about what you post... make less posts and then you will end up with merits
I know that quality posts is which has contribution for BCT community. But some just want talk here with others, as a way to entertain  so It's not mean that all posts must have quality

but whats the point? go have a wank - go for a walk outside.. do something more fulfilling than posting boring shitposts.

you are wasting valuable internet space.. at this rate we will run out
Many people just want to sit front of the desktop screen. and thing i see here is you are posting shitposts.
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