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January 26, 2018, 12:48:39 PM
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January 26, 2018, 07:07:13 PM
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January 28, 2018, 12:59:38 PM
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I see you've been ripped to shreds by DT for posting this thread and trying to sell your merit. It might do you some good to take a peek at how other users are properly distributing their merit. This forum and it's new features (restrictions) are not always an opportunity for you to capitalize and make money off of it. Sometimes it is as simple as there is too much spam, merit will help combat that; you are literally trying to defeat the purpose of their entire merit system and turn it into a pay-to-win structure that awards nothing except money. While this would act as a deterrent of it's own, it is foolhardy and would result in a disgusting forum.

Lock this thread, recant your statements, adjust yourself accordingly. Message the DT members that have tagged you and ask if there is anything you can do moving forward to get their ratings removed. You just stepped on a lot of toes and show you care very little about the health of the forum or the guidelines we operate under.

You can come back from this, what happens next is only on you.

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January 28, 2018, 02:13:01 PM
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I see you've been ripped to shreds by DT for posting this thread and trying to sell your merit. It might do you some good to take a peek at how other users are properly distributing their merit. This forum and it's new features (restrictions) are not always an opportunity for you to capitalize and make money off of it. Sometimes it is as simple as there is too much spam, merit will help combat that; you are literally trying to defeat the purpose of their entire merit system and turn it into a pay-to-win structure that awards nothing except money. While this would act as a deterrent of it's own, it is foolhardy and would result in a disgusting forum.

Lock this thread, recant your statements, adjust yourself accordingly. Message the DT members that have tagged you and ask if there is anything you can do moving forward to get their ratings removed. You just stepped on a lot of toes and show you care very little about the health of the forum or the guidelines we operate under.

You can come back from this, what happens next is only on you.

Exactly, some people are not able to think through long-term perspective. They just want immediate good wether it brings long-term sorrow. This is a classic example of a money-centric approach which often neglects the pursuit of knowledge and its importance. As you rightly pointed out he should ask for DT to reconsider their action and move ahead in the righteous direction. 

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January 28, 2018, 03:10:19 PM
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I thought that must be higher
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January 29, 2018, 04:34:59 AM
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Is this legal, this must be problematic and unrespectful to others I think. What kind of people are you if you want to sell even merit for money, resourceful or greedy ?. But one thing I really sure in this world,"money can't change you, but money help you to see what you really are".

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January 29, 2018, 05:00:06 AM
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I don't see why this shouldn't be allowed since the merit system isn't fair and your told there is no need for you to keep this and you are encouraged to give them away, why shouldn't a person decide to sell them if they wish?
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January 29, 2018, 05:04:06 AM
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I don't see why this shouldn't be allowed since the merit system isn't fair and your told there is no need for you to keep this and you are encouraged to give them away, why shouldn't a person decide to sell them if they wish?

Because it goes against the very integrity of why the Merits were created in the first place. While it’s not “illegal” (you won’t get banned for it), many DT members will red tag you for trying to “game” the merit system if you try and blatantly sell them.

And for the record, I totally think the merit system is fair. The ones that say that it isn’t generally only shitpost and don’t actually contribute to any dialogue carried out on the forums, IMO.

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January 29, 2018, 12:25:12 PM
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Is this legal, this must be problematic and unrespectful to others I think. What kind of people are you if you want to sell even merit for money, resourceful or greedy ?. But one thing I really sure in this world,"money can't change you, but money help you to see what you really are".

I wouldn't even say they are acting resourceful or greedy, they are acting as you would expect them to, desperately. It is a big problem and extremely disrespectful when the same people that were spamming shit-posts around the forum prior to the merit introduction are the people buying and selling their merit. It is pretty sad, but they won't get far with this strategy, their very small pool of merit will dry up and then it will be distributed as intended.

I don't see why this shouldn't be allowed since the merit system isn't fair and your told there is no need for you to keep this and you are encouraged to give them away, why shouldn't a person decide to sell them if they wish?

I love the "2-wrongs make a right" mindset that you are operating with. Even if we agreed with you that the merit system isn't fair, how does that justify taking advantage of it and exploiting it for monetary gain? You are trying to make it seem as though what you are doing is correct and it just looks pathetic. The merit system is as fair as anything, those who post high-quality contributions to the forum will be rewarded while those who do not are not.

By the way, it is allowed there are just certain members (a lot of them Merit sources) who think this behavior is toxic and would ruin the forum/merit system, which it blatantly would. They are correct for tagging merit sellers, just as it is right to tag trust sellers; It removes all integrity and purpose for the system in place.

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January 29, 2018, 03:47:18 PM
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For sure, people selling merit points is not a good thing, and I think it can ruin the system.
However:
- we know that the merit system as it is today is not fair, for several reasons : firstly, from my point of view, merit will be given mostly to OPs, but less for the people posting brilliant answers ; then, more merit will circulate in high popularity thraeads, with lots of people reading them, but the guy that take on his time to help people that ask questions on less popular threads will never get anything. The problem will be the same in the local sections, with less trafic, so less merit points circulating (we are currently talking about that in the french section).
- people will continue selling merit points. This is only the beggining.
I'm sure that we will also see new behaviors in the near future that are really bad for the forum, like people asking for merit.
By the way, if you liked this post, give it a merit point!  Grin

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January 29, 2018, 04:38:05 PM
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one may say that the system is imperfect, though he should also point that low quality posts degrade the forum. one way or another some filtering system has been expected. it will work its way out to a better quality i believe
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January 29, 2018, 08:33:38 PM
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we know that the merit system as it is today is not fair: firstly, merit will be given mostly to OPs, but less for the people posting brilliant answers ... more merit will circulate in high popularity thraeads, with lots of people reading them, but the guy that take on his time to help people that ask questions on less popular threads will never get anything.

Who is "we"? We do not know that the merit system isn't fair, because it simply is fair. From what you're saying people that post unique OP's that are extremely popular and helpful will get more merit than people asking questions in those same threads (or other less popular, helpful threads). I do not see the problem. People that post popular, helpful, informative contributions to the forum deserve more merit than somebody that simply had a tough time understanding the discussion. I fail to see your point.

If this person is helping somebody in a less popular thread, then the person they've helped can merit them or even another user that also found their post helpful; you know, the entire point of the merit system? Merit means you've earned it through competence, if you earn less than that is strictly and exclusively your fault/problem.

The problem will be the same in the local sections, with less trafic, so less merit points circulating.
- people will continue selling merit points. This is only the beggining.

Less Traffic = Less People to give merit = Less merit circulating in local sections; Again, where is the problem? Should local sections be given additional merit, just because they can't contribute elsewhere? Those that sell merit will be tagged by DT, will not become a significant source of merit and will disappear within 2-weeks. I've seen multiple people tagged and run-off the forum for this kind of behavior already.

If less people find your post helpful, you will receive less merit; if there's less people in that section then there is naturally less people that are able to find your post helpful, therefore you need to expand yourself to other sections of the forum if you plan to progress past the merit levels offered in the aforementioned sections. Again though, forum ranks don't even matter... Why does it matter and where is the problem? It just seems like you and everyone else complaining about merits is worried they'll never earn merit, quick tip You are the problem if this is your concern presently.

By the way, if you liked this post, give it a merit point!  Grin
I'm sure that we will also see new behaviors in the near future that are really bad for the forum, like people asking for merit.

You are a cringe-machine, this is not funny. Asking for merit isn't "bad for the forum", it's just bad for the person asking for merit; they won't receive more merit because of it, and I'd be willing to bet it has the opposite effect.  Behavior that is bad for the forum will naturally get scratched out by the DT members that do not allow for this kind of nonsense.

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January 29, 2018, 08:50:28 PM
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What did I miss?

What is merit? I've got 1000 it seems.

Also how have some older members become Copper? What does this mean also.

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January 30, 2018, 12:41:23 AM
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I see you've been ripped to shreds by DT for posting this thread and trying to sell your merit. It might do you some good to take a peek at how other users are properly distributing their merit. This forum and it's new features (restrictions) are not always an opportunity for you to capitalize and make money off of it. Sometimes it is as simple as there is too much spam, merit will help combat that; you are literally trying to defeat the purpose of their entire merit system and turn it into a pay-to-win structure that awards nothing except money. While this would act as a deterrent of it's own, it is foolhardy and would result in a disgusting forum.

Lock this thread, recant your statements, adjust yourself accordingly. Message the DT members that have tagged you and ask if there is anything you can do moving forward to get their ratings removed. You just stepped on a lot of toes and show you care very little about the health of the forum or the guidelines we operate under.

You can come back from this, what happens next is only on you.
Yea indeed, the move he made was quite selfish those merits and smerits are given to improve the forum from signature spammers posting on bs topics.
And he tried to sell that hope. You're correct it's his mistake and an apology might work in this case and will be an example to smerit sellers in future.
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January 30, 2018, 05:15:09 AM
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What did I miss?

What is merit? I've got 1000 it seems.

Also how have some older members become Copper? What does this mean also.
Copper Member: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2385104
Merit: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=2818350

The problem will be the same in the local sections, with less trafic, so less merit points circulating (we are curretly talking about that in the french section).
Give it some time until theymos add more merit sources. I know that there will be some in the local boards.

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January 30, 2018, 05:36:54 AM
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What's the highest bid now?  Cheesy
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January 30, 2018, 05:38:37 AM
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I don't see why this shouldn't be allowed since the merit system isn't fair and your told there is no need for you to keep this and you are encouraged to give them away, why shouldn't a person decide to sell them if they wish?
Give them away not sell them away.
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January 31, 2018, 01:34:32 PM
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Someone is trying to mess up the system again. I thought forum is getting better because of the new points system but  here we go, someone is selling merit for their own good without even thinking the consequences. We should be more considerate and have more respect on admin/s implemented the new rule.

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January 31, 2018, 03:47:40 PM
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By the looks of it, the DT members disapprove of this practice, and your trust just took a hammering. How could you not predict that this would happen? In any case, do you actually think 26 merits would be worth $50? Merits.... $50? Doesn't compute.

If people really wanted merit, they would post highly quality material here on the forum, the merit sources aren't exactly stingy with their sMerit. If you post something worthy, you'll be merited. Anybody receiving merit suspiciously (e.g. indicating it has been purchased) is likely to take a hammer just like you.


           
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January 31, 2018, 06:01:04 PM
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By the looks of it, the DT members disapprove of this practice, and your trust just took a hammering. How could you not predict that this would happen? In any case, do you actually think 26 merits would be worth $50? Merits.... $50? Doesn't compute.

If people really wanted merit, they would post highly quality material here on the forum, the merit sources aren't exactly stingy with their sMerit. If you post something worthy, you'll be merited. Anybody receiving merit suspiciously (e.g. indicating it has been purchased) is likely to take a hammer just like you.

Anyone who will buy or sell sMerit will probably get negative trust rating and if I were the admin like Theymos I will ban those account doing that.

Look like thread starter already banned.



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