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January 28, 2018, 10:21:11 PM
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No you are trying to change a decentralised forum into a centralised forum where the power is being hold in the hands of a few people who have proofed in the past that they abused it already and giving shit about it.
You want to fight selling account than first change the forum guideline and make it forbidden on that forum but don't act like your small group is going to decide what is allowed and what not based on some BS conversation you have in your small circle.

Reading already that you are going to defame project managers and ITO's which won't follow your rules for accepting members is just insane and shows me that you guys totaly lost control of your mind.
You clearly see no borders in the name of fighting spam and scam.

Your group has abused hundreds of legit accounts mine included and you basicly give shit about it.
Somebody got scammed and you are concerned about it ?I got defamed and you don't even care so don't tell me you care about people who got scammed.

And to say the truth i piss in everyones mouth who creates these kind of leadership.
You think BCT can't be replaced ?It can happen very quickly and i know it from past experience since i work on I-Marketing for over 20 years fulltime

People will quickly move where the money is and not where a group of pisshead is trying to establish themself in the name of protecting of scam.
People won't stay here because of you pissheads you need to release it.There are here because of the coins and ITO's and they can quickly move to another board and you can trust me most members will follow them without even thinkning about it and you will get your dead forum which you seem to look for
Thule do the same thing I did. Move foward. We won't be blocked from using this forum because of a neg rate. I tried to apologize and asking a second chance, you tried, everyone tried. They don't give a shit about it (with a very few exceptions of DT members).
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January 28, 2018, 10:29:39 PM
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Thule do the same thing I did. Move foward. We won't be blocked from using this forum because of a neg rate. I tried to apologize and asking a second chance, you tried, everyone tried. They don't give a shit about it (with a very few exceptions of DT members).


Sorry my sense of justice doesn't allow me that.They abused so many people and defamed me with their false accuses that it's time to teach them a lesson.
Once it will reach high amounts of crypto readers which i'm currently preparing you will see how they will run and try to fix everything
All campaigns Lauda is managing will be contacted and forwarded with Lauda's idea to defame project managers and ITO's which won't follow their rules which they decide in their small circle.

You will see how quickly they will distance from such a person which is the opposite of the main idea of decentralisation.

The viral effect will be heavy expecially as all the thousands of people who got abused by Lauda and that group will be joining that route.

Reddit front page is ready to go.Some more stuff and the action will take place

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January 29, 2018, 12:08:48 AM
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People will quickly move where the money is and not where a group of pisshead is trying to establish themself in the name of protecting of scam.
People won't stay here because of you pissheads you need to release it.There are here because of the coins and ITO's and they can quickly move to another board and you can trust me most members will follow them without even thinkning about it and you will get your dead forum which you seem to look for

Agree with your thought that the new merit system and small group control the forum power will be lead people to replace BCT and move to other board where the money is. it is clear that all this war by this group is to control the largest share of the gain available here in this forum.

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January 29, 2018, 12:19:10 AM
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LOL.  I personally don't have a deep gripe with you, though you are probably a shitposter.  I liked this post, however and gave you 1 merit point for it.  May you never rank up to Sr. Member without significantly improving your output.

Isn't this basically how we're supposed to be using the merit system, i.e., as a "like" function?  I may not like some of the users I've given merits to, but some of the posts I respect and some (like Deena's here) took a little bit of effort, which I can appreciate.  I have not so far only given merits to people I "like" or who are in "my circle".

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January 29, 2018, 12:30:00 AM
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No you are trying to change a decentralised forum into a centralised forum
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Who added the merit system? Who added the trust system? Who added DefaultTrust?

Who controls the forum?

Who controls the forum?

Decentralized, huh?

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January 29, 2018, 01:36:51 AM
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Have a look who exposed them and have a look at their profil how they are trying hard to destroy his rep
Thule, I admire your ferociousness and you don't appear to be a total shitposter, but you're on the wrong side of the battlefield, buddy.  And the way you post makes me think you just might be an alt of Quickseller, but I'm not outright accusing you of that, nor am I a paranoid person by nature.  

The thing is, most people--even if they do nothing about it--realize how bad the quality of posts has gotten on bitcointalk, and to a lesser extent they realize that dealing in accounts is seriously toxic to the forum.  People buy them and leverage any trust that the account has in order to scam.  I'm pretty sure when I got scammed out of 0.3BTC in 2016, the TimSweat account was a bought one.  And if the person isn't scamming, he's taking a shortcut in order to shitpost in a sig campaign.  Both of those things aren't good, and that's why we tag the accounts.

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13 July 2014, 15:46:25 Date Registered:        orryde u=354974
16 July 2014, 04:34:45 Date Registered:    superSTAR777 u=355868
19 July 2014, 08:42:05 Date Registered:    z3r0coin u=357026 http://archive.is/GpA5U
20 July 2014, 05:29:56 Date Registered:    ACCTseller u=357263
20 July 2014, 06:40:20 Date Registered:    deluxeCITY u=357282
21 July 2014, 01:31:08 Date Registered:    Panthers52 u=357487
22 July 2014, 15:51:40 Date Registered:    Quickseller u=358020
01 August 2014, 18:39:15 Date Registered:    twister u=361475



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16 June 2014, 03:27:23 Date Registered:        BiPolarBob u=343899

First post in 14 months: Archive: http://archive.is/ygJi6#selection-479.0-485.4



Previous last post  http://archive.is/8NEat#selection-399.1-489.35

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I don't like you.Am now going to use the Trust feedback the same way like Lauda and his group is doing which you support

Whats your problem with me? I did not do anything, I just told you that: " you wanted to buy an account" something disgusting... and for that reason you left me negative feedback?





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January 29, 2018, 07:18:01 PM
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and for that reason you left me negative feedback?

Do not worry about untrusted feedback.  I have hundreds calling me everything in the book.

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Whats your problem with me? I did not do anything, I just told you that: " you wanted to buy an account" something disgusting... and for that reason you left me negative feedback?



Where is your problem ?

I got also negativ feedback for nothing and one for a rule which doesnt exist and you said youself its ok for you.
So why are you upset if i use the trustfeedback the same way ?
You didn't broke any rule.Normaly i would be happy about every negativ comment since i belive in free speach and to defend it but since you have no problem with abuse of it i just showed how it feels to get abused.
Am a bit shocked that now when it affects you personly you have a problem with it

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"In addition to activity, everyone now has a merit score, and you need both a certain activity level and a certain merit score in order to reach higher member ranks."
So both are cheating in order to achieve higher ranks.
Lauda is the highest rank, aTriz is the second highest.

For the same reason the newbs are doing it.

I support the idea of the merit system being uncensored, since censoring it will make people afraid of spending their sMerits, however, if we want the newbs not to engage in Merit exchanges, there should be examples of that behaviour from trusted members.

You gotta admit you see their point.
If one of them gave someone 20 Merits for a post like that, and then got 10 back, someone would probably neg him.
I'm not saying that's wrong behaviour, I'm just saying we should try to set an example instead of saying omg, shitpost,spammer, stfu since simmilar behaviour on their end would be penalized and frowned upon, it can be hard to spot the differences for lower ranking members.

Also, I really don't consider this (http://prntscr.com/i7czpx) to be worthy of a neg.
My belief is that this is not what the trust system was designed for.
It's designed to fight against scams, can you trust someone with your BTC or not, not to neg people who attack you, no matter what they're saying.

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January 30, 2018, 01:13:23 AM
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When will OP stop beating a dead horse?
At least create a single thread to express your concern. Its not like a single thread will remain unnoticed here.

The amount of threads created in this board against aTriz and Lauda is just ridiculous.

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January 30, 2018, 06:57:36 AM
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You gotta admit you see their point.
There is no point. I can leave merit to whomever I want[1], wherever I want and in whatever amount I want. If you don't like it, then ask theymos to change the rules.

Also, I really don't consider this (http://prntscr.com/i7czpx) to be worthy of a neg.
My belief is that this is not what the trust system was designed for.
You don't understand the Trust system then.

It's designed to fight against scams, can you trust someone with your BTC or not, not to neg people who attack you, no matter what they're saying.
Incorrect. Theymos supported the tagging similar liars (see Bcash case), therefore it is warranted even according to him (although, individual cases are debatable; we are talking about the type).

[1] This works when you don't have an army of alts (see Quickseller et. al.).

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January 30, 2018, 08:14:05 AM
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You gotta admit you see their point.
There is no point. I can leave merit to whomever I want[1], wherever I want and in whatever amount I want. If you don't like it, then ask theymos to change the rules.

You call yourself a scam hunter but are yourself the best example for a scam.If it benefits yourself and you get caught its legit.Everything else which is against your own benefit is a scam.
You are a piece of shit and nothing more

Also, I really don't consider this (http://prntscr.com/i7czpx) to be worthy of a neg.
My belief is that this is not what the trust system was designed for.
You don't understand the Trust system then.

Your brain has some issues i guess

It's designed to fight against scams, can you trust someone with your BTC or not, not to neg people who attack you, no matter what they're saying.
Incorrect. Theymos supported the tagging similar liars (see Bcash case), therefore it is warranted even according to him (although, individual cases are debatable; we are talking about the type).

[1] This works when you don't have an army of alts (see Quickseller et. al.).

Theymos had no choice since you fucker already neg repped everyone.He staid behind you as Mod at that time but now you lost all credibility to him and thats for a reason.

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January 30, 2018, 09:03:38 AM
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Theymos had no choice since you fucker already neg repped everyone.He staid behind you as Mod at that time but now you lost all credibility to him and thats for a reason.
Then why doesn't theymos remove Lauda from DT by excluding them from his trust list?
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January 30, 2018, 09:24:22 AM
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I got also negativ feedback for nothing and one for a rule which doesnt exist and you said youself its ok for you.
Are you telling me negative feedback should only be given to people who break the rules? Then in that case, spamming would warrant negative feedback and scams wouldn't. If we're going by that logic. Roll Eyes

So why are you upset if i use the trustfeedback the same way ?
"Because you are doing it, I can do it as well" is not a good argument.

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January 30, 2018, 10:08:46 AM
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Lauda is the highest rank, aTriz is the second highest. Along with this, there is little to no benefit for either to get a higher rank anyway (other than aTriz just being able to say 'Look at me I'm Legendary' - which is admittedly pretty nice).
So Lauda had joined the forum than pther people? or does Lauda = Theymos ?
since Lauda is having highest merit points as you said.

The Merit system is intended to be used if you find a post, or the person posting it, constructive and beneficial to the forum...
It's not possible to merit a person, and therefore you have to merit a post that they have made. [/quote]
It's not a constructive post or benefited to the forums and both run same service called ALU  Wink
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An example in my case is my 50 merits to Lutpin. I've known Lutpin for a while and I consider them to be an extremely beneficial member to the forum, and therefore I gave him 50 merit on a post of his.
As you said above, merit is based on the constructive post and now you are saying merit is for a known person.  Why you change your words while posting here?

You know Lutpin and do you know Theymos, Sathoshi NAKAMOTO?
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January 30, 2018, 10:11:55 AM
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So Lauda had joined the forum than pther people?
That's not even a valid question.
or does Lauda = Theymos ?
Roll Eyes

since Lauda is having highest merit points as you said.
Highest rank =/= highest merit points.

It's not a constructive post or benefited to the forums and both run same service called ALU  Wink
It is very much a constructive post.

As you said above, merit is based on the constructive post and now you are saying merit is for a known person.  Why you change your words while posting here?
It's redundant to look through the post history of someone and distribute the number of merit points among the historical points when you can give them to a single post.

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January 30, 2018, 10:15:04 AM
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When will OP stop beating a dead horse?
At least create a single thread to express your concern. Its not like a single thread will remain unnoticed here.

The amount of threads created in this board against aTriz and Lauda is just ridiculous.

In what sense are you comparing aTriz and Lauda to a dead horse?

And that the amount of threads created in this board against aTriz and Lauda is very high only is a sign of their abuse of power. It is the latter which is 'ridiculous' not that people react to it.

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Then why doesn't theymos remove Lauda from DT by excluding them from his trust list?

My sad conclusion has to be that the forum owner himself has to be corrupt too, for otherwise he would not maintain the situation as it is.

Are you telling me negative feedback should only be given to people who break the rules? Then in that case, spamming would warrant negative feedback and scams wouldn't. If we're going by that logic. Roll Eyes

That's the evil thing about the forum governance. Laws and punishment are detached from each other. It's like the cop who's given the fiat to shoot whoever he likes, innocent or not.

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"Because you are doing it, I can do it as well" is not a good argument.

So shall we all stop doing it then? 'I can be bad but you cannot' is not a good argument either.
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January 30, 2018, 10:26:26 AM
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As you said above, merit is based on the constructive post and now you are saying merit is for a known person.  Why you change your words while posting here?
I haven't, you just can't read. Try going through my post slowly, remembering everything I said. If you still can't understand it, I'll try to write it in simpler language for you.
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January 30, 2018, 11:03:52 AM
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In what sense are you comparing aTriz and Lauda to a dead horse?

And that the amount of threads created in this board against aTriz and Lauda is very high only is a sign of their abuse of power. It is the latter which is 'ridiculous' not that people react to it.
Those two don't necessarily follow. When you're adding to someone's criminal record (real-life equivalent of red trust for the sake of the comparison) then of course there will be backlash whether you're right or not. Just because someone is vocal about it does not mean that they are innocent. You may very well have ponzi promotors/owners creating scores of threads but would that mean there's an abuse of power?

My sad conclusion has to be that the forum owner himself has to be corrupt too, for otherwise he would not maintain the situation as it is.
It doesn't make sense to allow someone who can—and probably has and will—make people leave the forum because of the negative trust that they place upon them. If theymos wanted to generate more money he could simply let the rubbish continue while he rakes in the ad revenue.

That's the evil thing about the forum governance. Laws and punishment are detached from each other. It's like the cop who's given the fiat to shoot whoever he likes, innocent or not.
I don't think you understand my point. The irony in Thule's arguments is that they continue to contradict one another.

If he states that he did nothing wrong because it was not located in the rules then he should not be pursuing his arguments about any perceived scamming on Lauda's part, since scams are also against the rules.

So shall we all stop doing it then? 'I can be bad but you cannot' is not a good argument either.
Doing what? Sending merit?

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