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January 27, 2018, 07:27:25 PM
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The users with merits will keep on merit each other or same as the rich people do charity, they will merit some newbie every now and then to show their generosity and supremacy.

Why would this happen as merits have no financial value at all to higher up accounts? They're worthless to users like me. I would probably rather give them out more liberally to newer users making great posts and give them out minimally and sparingly to more established members just as a worthless 'tip' or token of appreciation and that I acknowledge their post.

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January 27, 2018, 08:40:06 PM
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It's very interesting to see most of the members praising this so called 'Merit' systems are the users who already got lot of 'Merit's by default. They did NOT have to earn it like all new users will have to now!!
I didn't have to do anything to get where I am right now? Man, I wonder what I have been doing the last 5 years then. Roll Eyes

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January 27, 2018, 08:45:22 PM
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The users with merits will keep on merit each other or same as the rich people do charity, they will merit some newbie every now and then to show their generosity and supremacy.

Why would this happen as merits have no financial value at all to higher up accounts? They're worthless to users like me. I would probably rather give them out more liberally to newer users making great posts and give them out minimally and sparingly to more established members just as a worthless 'tip' or token of appreciation and that I acknowledge their post.
Agreed. They are worthless to me also but i think it's a great fun system. I have been looking for lower Ranks posts in hopes to REWARD them with a merit or two. New users now have to actually try harder with their posts to earn merits and when they get them they will actually appreciate it.

It's a Win win system for all i think. 
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January 27, 2018, 08:50:22 PM
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Tbh I'm also quite disturbed by this new Merit system.
That said, I completely understand the moderator's will that want to make an end to the unceasing spamming of last months.
I'm aware that it will be hard to gain 90 more merits to become a Full Member, but I'm not giving up and will continue to write quality posts to forum  Smiley

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January 27, 2018, 08:52:47 PM
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It's very interesting to see most of the members praising this so called 'Merit' systems are the users who already got lot of 'Merit's by default. They did NOT have to earn it like all new users will have to now!!
I didn't have to do anything to get where I am right now? Man, I wonder what I have been doing the last 5 years then. Roll Eyes

did a fairy just make you a staff member? was it like the merit system and I missed out?

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January 27, 2018, 08:55:51 PM
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It's very interesting to see most of the members praising this so called 'Merit' systems are the users who already got lot of 'Merit's by default. They did NOT have to earn it like all new users will have to now!!
I didn't have to do anything to get where I am right now? Man, I wonder what I have been doing the last 5 years then. Roll Eyes

did a fairy just make you a staff member? was it like the merit system and I missed out?


Pretty sure Mitchell was being sarcastic with his answer on that one. The user claimed people like Mitchell didn't earn his rank.
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January 27, 2018, 09:03:09 PM
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It's very interesting to see most of the members praising this so called 'Merit' systems are the users who already got lot of 'Merit's by default. They did NOT have to earn it like all new users will have to now!!
I didn't have to do anything to get where I am right now? Man, I wonder what I have been doing the last 5 years then. Roll Eyes
did a fairy just make you a staff member? was it like the merit system and I missed out?
Pretty sure Mitchell was being sarcastic with his answer on that one. The user claimed people like Mitchell didn't earn his rank.
I have valid proof TMAN is neither able to detect sarcasm, nor allowed to use it themselves.
In fact, I suspect Lauda has restricted TMAN to never use sarcasm, because she is afraid mr T could take away her catnip.

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January 27, 2018, 09:06:18 PM
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It's very interesting to see most of the members praising this so called 'Merit' systems are the users who already got lot of 'Merit's by default. They did NOT have to earn it like all new users will have to now!!
I didn't have to do anything to get where I am right now? Man, I wonder what I have been doing the last 5 years then. Roll Eyes
did a fairy just make you a staff member? was it like the merit system and I missed out?
Pretty sure Mitchell was being sarcastic with his answer on that one. The user claimed people like Mitchell didn't earn his rank.
I have valid proof TMAN is neither able to detect sarcasm, nor allowed to use it themselves.
In fact, I suspect Lauda has restricted TMAN to never use sarcasm, because she is afraid mr T could take away her catnip.

Lmao.   Lauda loves catnip. She is a crazy catlady  Cheesy
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January 27, 2018, 09:07:47 PM
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It's very interesting to see most of the members praising this so called 'Merit' systems are the users who already got lot of 'Merit's by default. They did NOT have to earn it like all new users will have to now!!
I didn't have to do anything to get where I am right now? Man, I wonder what I have been doing the last 5 years then. Roll Eyes

did a fairy just make you a staff member? was it like the merit system and I missed out?


Pretty sure Mitchell was being sarcastic with his answer on that one. The user claimed people like Mitchell didn't earn his rank.

and what was I being?? take a wild guess fella

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January 27, 2018, 09:09:37 PM
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It's very interesting to see most of the members praising this so called 'Merit' systems are the users who already got lot of 'Merit's by default. They did NOT have to earn it like all new users will have to now!!
I didn't have to do anything to get where I am right now? Man, I wonder what I have been doing the last 5 years then. Roll Eyes

did a fairy just make you a staff member? was it like the merit system and I missed out?


Pretty sure Mitchell was being sarcastic with his answer on that one. The user claimed people like Mitchell didn't earn his rank.

and what was I being?? take a wild guess fella


Sorry tired...long day  Cheesy
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January 27, 2018, 09:17:51 PM
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It's very interesting to see most of the members praising this so called 'Merit' systems are the users who already got lot of 'Merit's by default. They did NOT have to earn it like all new users will have to now!!
I didn't have to do anything to get where I am right now? Man, I wonder what I have been doing the last 5 years then. Roll Eyes

did a fairy just make you a staff member? was it like the merit system and I missed out?


Pretty sure Mitchell was being sarcastic with his answer on that one. The user claimed people like Mitchell didn't earn his rank.

and what was I being?? take a wild guess fella


Sorry tired...long day  Cheesy

no im asking as I wasn't sure... Im not sure what lauda allows me to do or not! lutpin might be able to answer for me.

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January 27, 2018, 09:27:12 PM
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It's very interesting to see most of the members praising this so called 'Merit' systems are the users who already got lot of 'Merit's by default. They did NOT have to earn it like all new users will have to now!!
I didn't have to do anything to get where I am right now? Man, I wonder what I have been doing the last 5 years then. Roll Eyes

did a fairy just make you a staff member? was it like the merit system and I missed out?


Pretty sure Mitchell was being sarcastic with his answer on that one. The user claimed people like Mitchell didn't earn his rank.

and what was I being?? take a wild guess fella




Sorry tired...long day  Cheesy

no im asking as I wasn't sure... Im not sure what lauda allows me to do or not! lutpin might be able to answer for me.

Don't worry about Lauda or lutpin do your own thing and they will do theirs.
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It's very interesting to see most of the members praising this so called 'Merit' systems are the users who already got lot of 'Merit's by default. They did NOT have to earn it like all new users will have to now!!
I didn't have to do anything to get where I am right now? Man, I wonder what I have been doing the last 5 years then. Roll Eyes

did a fairy just make you a staff member? was it like the merit system and I missed out?


Pretty sure Mitchell was being sarcastic with his answer on that one. The user claimed people like Mitchell didn't earn his rank.

I never said "Mitchell didn't earn his rank".  Off course all veteran users earned their rank via whichever rule was in place at that time and we have utmost respect for their valuable contribution.

 I said they didn't earn the 'Merit' and I have doubt they would achieve their current rank via the current merit system. Because the current 'Merit' system is useless crap system.  Only handful of people wont mind giving merit. Many of users wont just bother to spend their time to click another button, go to another page and give merit. Just wait and see this sh**y 'Merit' system collapse.
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January 28, 2018, 11:57:41 AM
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It's very interesting to see most of the members praising this so called 'Merit' systems are the users who already got lot of 'Merit's by default. They did NOT have to earn it like all new users will have to now!!
I didn't have to do anything to get where I am right now? Man, I wonder what I have been doing the last 5 years then. Roll Eyes

did a fairy just make you a staff member? was it like the merit system and I missed out?


Pretty sure Mitchell was being sarcastic with his answer on that one. The user claimed people like Mitchell didn't earn his rank.

I never said "Mitchell didn't earn his rank".  Off course all veteran users earned their rank via whichever rule was in place at that time and we have utmost respect for their valuable contribution.

 I said they didn't earn the 'Merit' and I have doubt they would achieve their current rank via the current merit system. Because the current 'Merit' system is useless crap system.  Only handful of people wont mind giving merit. Many of users wont just bother to spend their time to click another button, go to another page and give merit. Just wait and see this sh**y 'Merit' system collapse.

With that attitude you will be one of the losers who never level up..

Fight the system or embrace it.. the second option is a lot easier and a lot more fulfilling

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January 28, 2018, 12:08:17 PM
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If yall really think that everybody who makes helpful HQ posts will get merited - yall wrong!

Don't you think it will be easier with a Like system? Lets say only higher rank members can Like posts - Full Member or SR Member and up. It's still gonna be public and people will still be able to filter out account farmers.
Also the requirements are way too high, IMO they should be a bit lower.


With that attitude you will be one of the losers who never level up..

Fight the system or embrace it.. the second option is a lot easier and a lot more fulfilling

Do I have to remind you that if people didn't want to fight the system you woldn't have Bitcoin today? Your whole idea is against the idea of Bitcoin.
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January 28, 2018, 05:21:07 PM
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It's very interesting to see most of the members praising this so called 'Merit' systems are the users who already got lot of 'Merit's by default. They did NOT have to earn it like all new users will have to now!!
I didn't have to do anything to get where I am right now? Man, I wonder what I have been doing the last 5 years then. Roll Eyes

did a fairy just make you a staff member? was it like the merit system and I missed out?


Pretty sure Mitchell was being sarcastic with his answer on that one. The user claimed people like Mitchell didn't earn his rank.

I never said "Mitchell didn't earn his rank".  Off course all veteran users earned their rank via whichever rule was in place at that time and we have utmost respect for their valuable contribution.

 I said they didn't earn the 'Merit' and I have doubt they would achieve their current rank via the current merit system. Because the current 'Merit' system is useless crap system.  Only handful of people wont mind giving merit. Many of users wont just bother to spend their time to click another button, go to another page and give merit. Just wait and see this sh**y 'Merit' system collapse.

With that attitude you will be one of the losers who never level up..

Fight the system or embrace it.. the second option is a lot easier and a lot more fulfilling
That's it. The second option is more positive and better for BCT users. The approach will help them to both increase merit points and raise their knowledge about crypto, in addition to level up their writing skills. It is good in general, right? Let's choose the second option, everyone.

The 2nd option is the VERY reason why BITCOIN is created and that is to go against centralised robbery. the bitcoin community refused to be salve of the system where some elite will decide the future of others. 

I think BCT users will do the same and make the admins bound to abolish this shi**y Merit system, where some elite high ranked users will give merits to low ranked users.
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January 28, 2018, 05:33:18 PM
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The 2nd option is the VERY reason why BITCOIN is created and that is to go against centralised robbery. the bitcoin community refused to be salve of the system where some elite will decide the future of others. 

I think BCT users will do the same and make the admins bound to abolish this shi**y Merit system, where some elite high ranked users will give merits to low ranked users.
How decentralized was the forum? Before the merit system?

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January 28, 2018, 05:54:03 PM
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The 2nd option is the VERY reason why BITCOIN is created and that is to go against centralised robbery. the bitcoin community refused to be salve of the system where some elite will decide the future of others. 

I think BCT users will do the same and make the admins bound to abolish this shi**y Merit system, where some elite high ranked users will give merits to low ranked users.
How decentralized was the forum? Before the merit system?

Everybody was able to rank up before the merit system. Now some people never will. Do you really believe everybody who deserves merit will get it? Seeing what kind of posts get merited now I doubt that the actually useful posts will get as much merit as them.

Would be easier if the Merit requirements are lowered a bit.
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January 28, 2018, 06:32:22 PM
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This whole Merit system is built with exact same recipe of current capitalist society " Rich getting richer, poor getting poorer" .

Ok, explain to me how am I going to get richer out of it. I don't really care about becoming a legendary member. Even if merit will limit my ability to rank up it's not my priority and it shouldn't be for any poster on this forum, including you.
Now how are you getting poorer? It's much harder for a hero member to become a legendary than it is for a member to become a sr. The proportions are there, you have the same chances as someone like me.

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January 28, 2018, 07:29:47 PM
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Actually, Bitcointalk was never decentralized like Bitcoin Wink.

Earlier also members with high default trust had more power. But centralization is not that bad.
We need some people that can be trusted by most of us that have more power.

With this update, we are preventing spammers (unless spammers find way to cheat this mechanism) but at the same time, we are making it difficult for a person with deep interest in cryptocurrency (or bitcoin) to gain higher rank.
It may be argued that he will level up if he posts good content. But I don't think that will be fast enough.

Every decision has positive and negative aspects. It may be good for some and bad for others. Now that merit system is implemented, we need to cope up with it.
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