Is Avalon giving refunds on past due chip orders?

[CoinHoarder]

I received a couple PMs stating that BitSyncom was giving refunds to past due chip orders. However, I'm going through his last posts and it seems he's only talking about Batch 3 refunds. Is he giving refunds for chip orders too? Where is everyone getting this info from?

Obviously I want a refund... the chips would not break even if delivered today when you add assembly costs. Also, I can no longer trust Avalon will deliver soon anyways.. it will likely be a month+ before all chips are shipped and in the possession of miners. It's anyone's guess how long that will take.

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[bystander]

BitSyncom responded to Zefir via PM and allowed it to be posted here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177827.msg3035535#msg3035535

Looks like there's something in motion, but not sure how long it will take.

[CoinHoarder]

BitSyncom responded to Zefir via PM and allowed it to be posted here:
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=177827.msg3035535#msg3035535

Looks like there's something in motion, but not sure how long it will take.

Thank you sir.

[dogjunior]

Yifu said he was open to this idea of full refund. He did not say yes I will give full refunds nor did he say when this would happen. Also then you need to get agreement with the people that purchased in the group buy. What if some people don't want a refund but want the chips? This whole situation is a mess.

[glendall]

Quite the mess.

I wonder what happened, and I wonder if we'll ever know the full story.

You would not expect it to be that difficult to ship out chips that they've already had made.

Pragmatically speaking I'm glad that the 1,000,000 chips haven't been shipped, but ya, can certainly feel everyone's pain for waiting for them to come in. Hopefully in about 2 or 3 months time ordering ASICs will be a reliable, unsurprising thing to do, instead of the total crap-shoot, gamble that has been for everyone so far (from any company, except for ASICMINER some of the time).

[eve]

Will the group for razingbull, zefir, sebastian, steamboat and a few of the others please acknowledge when they received the Full refund from Yifu please posts your comments here? When could we get these Full Refund?

[CoinHoarder]

Will the group for razingbull, zefir, sebastian, steamboat and a few of the others please acknowledge when they received the Full refund from Yifu please posts your comments here? When could we get these Full Refund?

It seems he hasn't actually agreed to refund the orders yet.

He simply stated he was open to the idea the way I understand it.

[Bicknellski]

Yifu said he was open to this idea of full refund. He did not say yes I will give full refunds nor did he say when this would happen. Also then you need to get agreement with the people that purchased in the group buy. What if some people don't want a refund but want the chips? This whole situation is a mess.

Further to this...

Do the chips actually exist that have been in ordered?
When would they even start shipping?
Where is the DHL tracking info if they exist and are shippable?

I mean saying a refund in principle is what he is thinking is best is great but if people still want chips the questions above have NEVER been answered.

Lawsuits are coming if this is not resolved asap.

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I get the distinct feeling there are no chips since there has been ZERO confirmation from any source they are in hand and are shipping out or could be shipped out.