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May 12, 2018, 04:27:25 PM
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There is no punishment for you if you send sMerits to your friends. I would like to emphasize that what you send is sMerits (sendable Merits), not Merits. However, you should send them to your friends' qualited-posts, because it is the main reason why merit system been launched, if not please send those sMerits to others in the forum who are deserved.

The merit system was created in order to stop spamming, shitty-posts; and to motivate users to contribute more constructive, higher-qualitied posts over time.

I think that is a member is sending merits to his friend even if he has made a good post, he can be in danger. This will not happen to old trusted new members but for new members, this might be ignored.

It is best to give merits to other people making quality posts. If your friends are making good posts, they will anyway get merits from other members.

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May 12, 2018, 08:24:12 PM
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Good afternoon everybody,
As the topic, is it allowed to send merit to our friend or not?

Before you share your thought, let me go first.
In my opinion, i think this is not good to support the merit system because people can send merit each other to their friend without checking wheater they make quality post or not.
As the goal of this merit, its made to kill spammers but it such thing continue, merit will be killed back by spammers.

I noticed this when my friend get private message, the message contains people ask him to send merit each other.

I know its hard to get merit but we can get it by making quality post.

i know some members will not agree with this but i hope you can share your thought here.

Note : sorry for my bad english. I am not native english
I think it is allowes to give merit to a friend as long as you give your merit to the good quality, constructive post of your friend. The point is don't just give merit randomly in their post the choose which one of his post deserved a merit. I think it depends on you if you like a certain post as long as it is good quality, conatructive, creative one. That won't be an example of merit abuse because you give your merit in the right way.

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May 12, 2018, 10:12:02 PM
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Without we realize, this has happened since the system merit raised in this forum because some users have more than one account. At least, with this merit, we can distinguish which posts are really qualified.
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May 12, 2018, 10:15:26 PM
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There are dozens of topics on the same questions, which published before this one. How did this one receive 15 merits? Really ridiculous, right?

Yes but let's be honest! How many of us have one friend on an online forum? almost no one. How many of us have 3 or more friends? Very often the word friend stands for "alt account".

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May 13, 2018, 12:45:45 AM
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It is still allowed to send merit to your friend if that friend of yours made a post that is meritable.
But there are stillsome members who are abusing the merit system, some of them trade their merits or sell it to gain more money. And this action is prohibited in this forum.
And yes, merit was made to kill spammers, shit posters, and to motivate all the members to make more constructive posts.
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May 13, 2018, 01:21:29 AM
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There are dozens of topics on the same questions, which published before this one. How did this one receive 15 merits? Really ridiculous, right?
Yup, maybe the senders of merit are all of his friends. Maybe I'm wrong but probably right Grin.
Yes but let's be honest! How many of us have one friend on an online forum? almost no one. How many of us have 3 or more friends? Very often the word friend stands for "alt account".
Honestly, I only have few (about 2 to 3) but seems not a lot of help because they are not giving merit points for my good quality posts anymore. It only happened once because we are all afraid to be accused for merit abusing even though it's a fact that we all had good quality of posts and there's nothing friendship involved.
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May 13, 2018, 08:25:25 AM
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Yes but let's be honest! How many of us have one friend on an online forum? almost no one. How many of us have 3 or more friends? Very often the word friend stands for "alt account".
Agree with you, coinlocket$.
It is extremely hard to have friends in the forum.
of course, users can help each other when they have free time (and, of course, generosity). However, I don't see it is necessary to have friends in the forum (just my stance, I might be wrong at this point).
Therefore, 3 accounts gave more than 20 merits for such non-sense thread are probably alt-accounts.

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May 13, 2018, 08:57:52 AM
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I haven't seen rules regarding sending merits to a friend. But at some point, that would be kind of unfair if someone will get merit just because they know each other and not becuase of the quality of their posts. I mean, when they get merits subjectively and not objectively.

Its not bad to give your friend a merit but just make sure that they surely deserve it. Because if we'll just give them for no concrete reason, especially regarding their post quality, they will not try harder to contribute better.

Teach them how to fish because for sure they will improve. Let's not tolerate the idea of giving someone merit just because we know them. Let's give merit not out of sympathy but because of the fact that they really earned it.

And give others a chance to also rank up or increase in merit because of the efforts they really put into their posts. Let's play fair, people.

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May 13, 2018, 11:41:15 AM
 #49

Yeah, it is one of merit circulation, but the fact is over time those merit abusers will run out of their sMerits.
Yeah I am also aware of this scenario, merits circulation within the circle of friends.

Please stop complaining like this. Users who have not received merits mainly due to their low-quality threads, not due to those merit abusers.
Most importantly, Merits will only find deserved users, threads, of course, merit abusers are exceptions.
I also added that friends is a tool to obtain merits easily. There's so many deserving people but not appreciated because of this thing.


Agree! This is the way true members of the forum (constructive ones) will behave with their sMerits as one of motivating ways to stimulate others to be more constructive via their threads.
And give others a chance to also rank up or increase in merit because of the efforts they really put into their posts. Let's play fair, people.
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May 13, 2018, 03:08:50 PM
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From my point of view it is impossible to monitor the turnover of the Merits, due to thousands of people have ones and 99% don't care of abusing merits excepting moderators, high level participators or may be newcomers who try to deserve some respect or merits.

Yes but let's be honest! How many of us have one friend on an online forum? almost no one. How many of us have 3 or more friends? Very often the word friend stands for "alt account".
Absolutly agree.
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May 13, 2018, 03:20:30 PM
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Why is this even a conversation? Who cares what people do with their merits, as long as they're not selling it or farming it, then they should be free to do with their merit as they wish. Nobody is being paid to search for high-quality posts, if they want to send their 50 merits to a friend, then so be it. In my opinion the only things that should be blocked are selling, trading and farming merit, obviously these lines are blurred when it is between friends so it's best to just let them get on with it.
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May 13, 2018, 04:39:14 PM
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I really wonder why this post got (15) merit's while there are lot's of good post that deserves more than this post.

Reason's why I think this post dont deserve merits:
-This is a question post
-Some of the sentences are confusing
-No lesson can be learned
-Not a helpful post

Can someone explain to me why? Especially to those merit sender.
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May 13, 2018, 04:43:18 PM
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I really wonder why this post got (15) merit's while there are lot's of good post that deserves more than this post.

Reason's why I think this post dont deserve merits:
-This is a question post
-Some of the sentences are confusing
-No lesson can be learned
-Not a helpful post

Can someone explain to me why? Especially to those merit sender.
He received so much Merit because then only the system was introduced and people did not quite understand how to dispose of it, so I see no reason to be indignant. Time has already passed. And you should not dispose of another's Merit
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May 13, 2018, 05:01:28 PM
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It is only allowed when that post deserves a merit point. No one should abuse the merit system. As a matter if fact, there are even some people who have high ranked accounts, who create alternative ones just to give merit points to themselves. It is not just about friends giving merits to each other. If your post is good, people; including your friends, can give you some merit points. That is how it goes.
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May 14, 2018, 05:38:35 AM
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I agree that everyone in the forum have their own rights to use their sMerits.
However, the point is most of cases with more than 20 merits are probably from merit abusers. Those one might be merit exchanges from friends, or between main and alt accounts; or merit business.
Most of those over-received merit threads are only one-line, one word, or something like that.
How do you explain that those threads are really deserved with such extremely high Merits. I don't see anyway to explain such cases.
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if they want to send their 50 merits to a friend, then so be it. In my opinion the only things that should be blocked are selling, trading and farming merit, obviously these lines are blurred when it is between friends so it's best to just let them get on with it.
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May 14, 2018, 05:55:16 AM
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Quote from: orka39
is it allowed to send merit to our friend or not?

As long as the posts is worth to be Merited then there wouldn't have any problem, on some LOCAL BOARDS this native are fond of sending Merits to each other, an example of this is the RUSSIAN's Section, some are abusive but there are still people that are giving them with an honest and fair decision of distributing Merits.

Quote from: orka39
the message contains people ask him to send merit each other.

This is an ordinary situation, some people use this tactic to make into the next rank.

Quote from: orka39
I know its hard to get merit but we can get it by making quality post.
Not all the time, in most cases some quality posts are being left behind. You might have a reply to a certain thread that has enough to be given Merit but unluckily this is being rephrased by some other people to make things more clearer than yours and that's why even if you're the first one to answer such problems the MERITS that should be given to you is being snatch away.
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May 14, 2018, 07:02:45 AM
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I think ,there is nothing wrong with this ,if Ur frnd is making a good/quality post.You are free to send merit.

But,you are sending merit to low or meaningless post,that is wrong and It is against the rule of MERIT system.I have reported such type of account by creating a new thread.But I dont think,there is any progress.

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May 14, 2018, 09:15:06 AM
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Why is this even a conversation? Who cares what people do with their merits, as long as they're not selling it or farming it, then they should be free to do with their merit as they wish. Nobody is being paid to search for high-quality posts, if they want to send their 50 merits to a friend, then so be it. In my opinion the only things that should be blocked are selling, trading and farming merit, obviously these lines are blurred when it is between friends so it's best to just let them get on with it.
From this quote you may see that for some people there is a point of merit quality
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May 14, 2018, 10:45:06 AM
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Quote from: Parodium
Why is this even a conversation?
It wasn't.

Quote from: Parodium
Who cares what people do with their merits, as long as they're not selling it or farming it, then they should be free to do with their merit as they wish.
Everybody cares about the distribution of MERITS except shitposters and endless number of spammers.

Quote from: Parodium
Nobody is being paid to search for high-quality posts, if they want to send their 50 merits to a friend, then so be it.
Yes, There isn't someone whose being paid just for being a MERIT SOURCE. They're just a HELPING INDIVIDUAL that wants to make this forum manageable and formal.

Quote from: Parodium
In my opinion the only things that should be blocked are selling, trading and farming merit, obviously these lines are blurred when it is between friends so it's best to just let them get on with it.
You already stated it. TRADING should be blocked and that also comes to the friendly situation. Why would you trade your MERITS to someone you didn't know and don't have any assurance that they will do the same as you did.
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May 14, 2018, 11:25:25 AM
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This is one of reasons to create merit system and new rank requirements. So, if your friends' threads are deserved to earn merits due to its meaning, heplfulness, problem-solved ability; don't hesitate to send your sMerits to those threads. Because it will not violate any rules of the forum and won't abuse merit system.

On the other hand, the fact is most of 'friends' in the forum exchange their sMerits for so many rounds for non-sense threads.
Who are 'friends' in the forum?
They are mostly main- and alt-accounts.  Roll Eyes
I don't see any reason not to allowed giving merit to a friend of yours but as long as post is quite humorous, helpful and something new that adds useful information on the forum.
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